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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 19, 2012 17:59:35 GMT -8
There will be teams willing to join the MWC for football. Not following your logic. Still, I think the future holds for a league or situation that currently doesn't even exist. That would most likely be a hoops-first western conference or a west division of the nBE. The reasoning behind my logic: I can't see some of the bigger named schools - SDSU, Boise, Fresno, Air Force, Hawaii - playing football in the BE while the rest - UNLV, UNM, New Mexico State, Utah State, Wyoming, CSU - are denied the same opportunity. Sets up a potentially nasty split I don't think the football requirement for admission will be dropped either. The Montana's and Dakotas are awaiting the call to move up. Texas State would probably accept too. Still pieces on the board left to be claimed. The BE isn't going to add that many teams. You are throwing a red herring there. Still, those were all plausible outcomes in the future, there are many, this is one that is certainly possible. Re-read his logic string, it is reasonable. No one said it was actually going to happen. There are many courses this may take and no one knows the twists and turns this plot is taking at the moment. Think back 4 years ago, no one thought all the things that have happened would to include the period of time the Big XII was in real trouble of losing most of their upper teams. Inconceivable.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 19, 2012 18:06:50 GMT -8
The reasoning behind my logic: I can't see some of the bigger named schools - SDSU, Boise, Fresno, Air Force, Hawaii - playing football in the BE while the rest - UNLV, UNM, New Mexico State, Utah State, Wyoming, CSU - are denied the same opportunity. Sets up a potentially nasty split I don't think the football requirement for admission will be dropped either. The Montana's and Dakotas are awaiting the call to move up. Texas State would probably accept too. Still pieces on the board left to be claimed. The BE isn't going to add that many teams. You are throwing a red herring there. Still, those were all plausible outcomes in the future, there are many, this is one that is certainly possible. Re-read his logic string, it is reasonable. No one said it was actually going to happen. There are many courses this may take and no one knows the twists and turns this plot is taking at the moment. Think back 4 years ago, no one thought all the things that have happened would to include the period of time the Big XII was in real trouble of losing most of their upper teams. Inconceivable. I was talking about the MWC adding all those teams. I should have been clearer. and nope, I did not expect the Big XII to come out intact. I thought for sure that OU, Okie State, Texas and Tech were gone to the Pac. Kansas and maybe Iowa State ending up in the MW. Amazing it stayed together and is now looking strong for the future.
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Post by titanczar on Aug 19, 2012 18:37:35 GMT -8
The BE isn't going to add that many teams. You are throwing a red herring there. Still, those were all plausible outcomes in the future, there are many, this is one that is certainly possible. Re-read his logic string, it is reasonable. No one said it was actually going to happen. There are many courses this may take and no one knows the twists and turns this plot is taking at the moment. Think back 4 years ago, no one thought all the things that have happened would to include the period of time the Big XII was in real trouble of losing most of their upper teams. Inconceivable. I was talking about the MWC adding all those teams. I should have been clearer. and nope, I did not expect the Big XII to come out intact. I thought for sure that OU, Okie State, Texas and Tech were gone to the Pac. Kansas and maybe Iowa State ending up in the MW. Amazing it stayed together and is now looking strong for the future. How is the Big 12 looking strong for the future? They lost Colorado and Neb. in the earlier round of realignment and lost both A&M and Missouri this round. Adding TCU & WVU doesn't make up for losing those four schools. They have one school basically controlling all the TV money and that's why they lost A&M and Missouri.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 19, 2012 18:44:49 GMT -8
The BE isn't going to add that many teams. You are throwing a red herring there. Still, those were all plausible outcomes in the future, there are many, this is one that is certainly possible. Re-read his logic string, it is reasonable. No one said it was actually going to happen. There are many courses this may take and no one knows the twists and turns this plot is taking at the moment. Think back 4 years ago, no one thought all the things that have happened would to include the period of time the Big XII was in real trouble of losing most of their upper teams. Inconceivable. I was talking about the MWC adding all those teams. I should have been clearer. and nope, I did not expect the Big XII to come out intact. I thought for sure that OU, Okie State, Texas and Tech were gone to the Pac. Kansas and maybe Iowa State ending up in the MW. Amazing it stayed together and is now looking strong for the future. I was referring to your line: "I can't see some of the bigger named schools - SDSU, Boise, Fresno, Air Force, Hawaii - playing football in the BE" They will probably add one team, not three from the West.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 18:47:23 GMT -8
To use an auto analogy, let's say that SDSU, Hawai'i, and BSU drive SUV's and they are joining a car club where half the club drive mid sized sedans and then there are three Ford Fiestas and a Civic. It's understandable that the three Fiestas draw a lot of guffaws, but when you start talking about the whole group like they all drive Fiestas, people are going to want set the record straight. Its more likr you guys all drive these.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 19, 2012 18:52:08 GMT -8
or a souped-up Gremlin
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Post by quickdraw on Aug 19, 2012 20:24:41 GMT -8
AztecAndre asked me to stop by and check in. Just saying HI although I won't have time to compile statistics on how many people are posting on which topics. See ya.
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Post by beefeater on Aug 19, 2012 23:23:55 GMT -8
I don't pretend to be able to predict what will happen next in realignment. I just know that all Summer you guys talked as though joining the BWC was in doubt. And it looks like you are going to spend the next year talking about how staying in the BWC is in doubt.
It will interesting to see how long you keep it up versus how long you stay.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 19, 2012 23:40:43 GMT -8
AztecAndre asked me to stop by and check in. Just saying HI. well then, glad you can make it. And Hi back! We eagerly await another Vegas trip in the near future - 2014 ish sounds about right. We owe ya for the 2OT classic last season.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 19, 2012 23:42:41 GMT -8
I don't pretend to be able to predict what will happen next in realignment. I just know that all Summer you guys talked as though joining the BWC was in doubt. And it looks like you are going to spend the next year talking about how staying in the BWC is in doubt. It will interesting to see how long you keep it up versus how long you stay. has to be at least double. for every summer of threatening to walk out on the BWC, it's a minimum of two full years as a member. So expect them to stay five or six years.
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 20, 2012 6:53:29 GMT -8
We get at least a couple UNLV trolls here every month but I check the UNLV board pretty regularly and literally never see any Aztecs there. Yet the #1 mantra of UNLV fans on the MWC board is although they aren't going to miss us, we're going to miss them. No the #1 mantra of SDSU fans is that because they are leaving the MWC that it will or already has suddenly crumbled and will blow away like dust in the wind. I seriously doubt that either team will hardly notice that the other is gone. By the way the title of this thread is is Big West Smack Talk and it was started by a SDSU fan. If you will read the original post you will see the SDSU fan thought the smack talk to be childish.
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Post by Strawberry Puppy Kisses on Aug 20, 2012 7:15:47 GMT -8
I don't know who needs each other more.
SDSU & the Big West for an oly sport home...
...or Big West fans & the SDSU message board.
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Post by monty on Aug 20, 2012 8:32:31 GMT -8
We get at least a couple UNLV trolls here every month but I check the UNLV board pretty regularly and literally never see any Aztecs there. Yet the #1 mantra of UNLV fans on the MWC board is although they aren't going to miss us, we're going to miss them. No the #1 mantra of SDSU fans is that because they are leaving the MWC that it will or already has suddenly crumbled and will blow away like dust in the wind. I seriously doubt that either team will hardly notice that the other is gone. By the way the title of this thread is is Big West Smack Talk and it was started by a SDSU fan. Good lord, what does it take for a conference to crumble then? It has lost its best 3 teams: Utah, BYU and TCu It has lost its newest best team: Boise It has lost schools in its 2 biggest markets and recruiting areas: TCu and SDSU In an age when everyone is getting pay increases on media rights, it got a 1/3 pay cut In an age when conf. are adding channels, it lost its channel. It has teams remaining that will be televised 3 times all year in fball and bball It is losing two teams that will be televised 27 times It has lost teams in bball that won it's most regular season and tourney titles and 2/3 including the 2 most recent that went to the sweet 16: sdsu and byu It is a western conference with no team in socal or the entire state of texas It isn't suddenly crumbling now that SDSU left, it crumbled and we just happened to get through the rubble.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2012 10:03:27 GMT -8
I love all of the therories of how all of these conferences change everything they are and have been doing to bailout SDSU'S MBB program from, as the Gaucho says, being thrown under the bus. I personally see it as more of being thrown into the bus. Just resign yourselves to being 1 of the bW's better basketball teams. Take some of that FB money and buy some buy the basketball team something nice. The next decade will fly by in no time at all. I hope you add more value to your work and life situations than you do here. Agreed. As with every newbie, I cut the guy some slack initially but he's failed to say even one thing worthwhile over the last week despite many attempts so he's now earned ignore status with me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2012 10:06:11 GMT -8
I was talking about the MWC adding all those teams. I should have been clearer. and nope, I did not expect the Big XII to come out intact. I thought for sure that OU, Okie State, Texas and Tech were gone to the Pac. Kansas and maybe Iowa State ending up in the MW. Amazing it stayed together and is now looking strong for the future. How is the Big 12 looking strong for the future? They lost Colorado and Neb. in the earlier round of realignment and lost both A&M and Missouri this round. Adding TCU & WVU doesn't make up for losing those four schools. Agree that TCU and WVU =/= Nebraska, A&M and Missouri (Colorado is completely worthless). However, if the B12 can lure FSU and Clemson, it will be a stronger league than it was previously.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2012 10:07:20 GMT -8
or a souped-up Gremlin That's Long Beach State and its Pyramid.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 20, 2012 10:20:10 GMT -8
Boise has a nice arena, if I may say so myself
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Post by monty on Aug 20, 2012 10:24:55 GMT -8
ever seen the damn thing? It is a pretty nice college arena
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 20, 2012 10:41:01 GMT -8
of course I have. who hasn't been inside a Taco Bell facility?
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