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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 9:30:06 GMT -8
It is sorrowfull that so many coaches do not have the insight of some on this board. UA has 20 comitts 8 of whom are worthless two stars.WAZZU 8 of 10 two stars,God what a dumb Coach whats his career record 4-80? The Unviersity of Coors at Boulder 8 of 12 are two stars ,Awesome Sunstorke Univedristy has only five Comitts 1 **Univeristy of Bejing at Berkeley two star. 2 of 8 I think it's blatantly obvious that these PAC 12 coaches are incompetent. If they were half as wise as geniuses Biggins, and the other guys at Rivals and Scout, they would never offer these kids. It is so fortunate for us on the Mesa that we have experts to straighten the coaches out . Of course we must remind ourselves that the PAC 12 doesn't require as good as players as the mighty Mountain West or the BCS juggernaut the Big East. When someone has coached for 40 years or more they get a pretty good idea of how to evaluate talent.(Otherwise they'd be employed at ESPN as experts )Now I realize thye do not have the the expertise of the rating services, Wou don't get fired when the wrong. There is little doubt that Rocky Long makes the final decision on who gets offered, with input from staff. Considering the amazing job they did at New Mexico with scant resources, and a successful tenures at Oregon State and UCLA I tend to trust his judgment. Of course some of you would like to be like New Mexico, and become a basketball school. As I said earlier there is nothing I care less about the basketball it's again that's only exciting in the last 5 min. However some of you love BB and I suggest that you post like Hell about it. That way you won't have time enough to annoy me with your moaning and complaining about a coach who's been for 40 years evaluation of an athlete's potential. Sorry, didn't have time to go through your entire litany, but the first two schools--wherein you mentioned their number of 2-stars--- you neglected to mention that UA is rated 18th in the nation in recruiting so far, with eleven 3-stars and two 4-stars. Washington State is rated 56th (we are 80th) with five 3-stars and one 4-star. I was pretty skeptical about those WSU figures myself. If Paul Wolff was still there, that would be one thing. However, WSU has gone from having one of the dozen or so worst coaches in America to having one of the dozen or so best, all in one year. So the days of SDSU signing half the players they also want are over. BTW, just where is Craig James these days?
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Post by myownwords on Jul 14, 2012 9:30:36 GMT -8
Sorry, didn't have time to go through your entire litany, but the first two schools--wherein you mentioned their number of 2-stars--- you neglected to mention that UA is rated 18th in the nation in recruiting so far, with eleven 3-stars and two 4-stars. Washington State is rated 56th (we are 80th) with five 3-stars and one 4-star. All I read from your response was, "sorry I didn't have time to read that whole thing where you just owned me. I'm just gonna ignore that whole post and throw up some facts that support my flawed and very muddy position." And did you not have a response to the points which I did address? I mean other than sarcasm?
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Post by myownwords on Jul 14, 2012 9:32:26 GMT -8
Sorry, didn't have time to go through your entire litany, but the first two schools--wherein you mentioned their number of 2-stars--- you neglected to mention that UA is rated 18th in the nation in recruiting so far, with eleven 3-stars and two 4-stars. Washington State is rated 56th (we are 80th) with five 3-stars and one 4-star. I was pretty skeptical about those WSU figures myself. If Paul Wolff was still there, that would be one thing. However, WSU has gone from having one of the dozen or so worst coaches in America to having one of the dozen or so best, all in one year. So the days of SDSU signing half the players they also want are over. BTW, just where is Craig James these days? I'm sure he'll be throwing darts at Leach when the season gets going. Especially after a first loss.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 10:06:53 GMT -8
I'm sure he'll be throwing darts at Leach when the season gets going. Especially after a first loss. If you mean verbal darts, it won't be on ESPN, which thankfully didn't renew his contract.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 14, 2012 10:08:55 GMT -8
I'm sure he'll be throwing darts at Leach when the season gets going. Especially after a first loss. If you mean verbal darts, it won't be on ESPN, which thankfully didn't renew his contract. Nice, I didn't know that. Perhaps there's a spot for him on The Mountian. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 10:36:40 GMT -8
If you mean verbal darts, it won't be on ESPN, which thankfully didn't renew his contract. Nice, I didn't know that. Perhaps there's a spot for him on The Mountian. lol Since I didn't until recently, you may also not know this. There's a reason beyond his personal fame that James managed to put pressure on Leach at Tech. Craig attended SMU only because SMU cheated way more than Tech. It's not entirely clear to what extent, but basically everybody in the SWC cheated in those days but SMU, which had been better than basically nobody but Baylor and Rice, was determined to challenge for conference titles and so provided top notch money, hookers and whatever. I forget how Dickerson decided to go there rather than Texas but it was a huge coup and once he committed, they got a bunch of other all-state players, including James. James was also a coup because his family had historically attended Tech and IIRC, his parents were none too pleased that he chose SMU. Anyway, the James name is immense in little Lubbock. The Leach name, not so much. (Leach is an LDS guy from Utah, albeit apparently a Jack Mormon.)
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Post by myownwords on Jul 14, 2012 10:39:09 GMT -8
Nice, I didn't know that. Perhaps there's a spot for him on The Mountian. lol Since I didn't until recently, you may also not know this. There's a reason beyond his personal fame that James managed to put pressure on Leach at Tech. Craig attended SMU only because SMU cheated way more than Tech. It's not entirely clear to what extent, but basically everybody in the SWC cheated in those days but SMU, which had been better than basically nobody but Baylor and Rice, was determined to challenge for conference titles and so provided top notch money, hookers and whatever. I forget how Dickerson decided to go there rather than Texas but it was a huge coup and once he committed, they got a bunch of other all-state players, including James. James was also a coup because his family had historically attended Tech and IIRC, his parents were none too pleased that he chose SMU. Anyway, the James name is immense in little Lubbock. The Leach name, not so much. (Leach is an LDS guy from Utah, albeit apparently a Jack Mormon.) I did not know that either. Very interesting. Very small world.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 14, 2012 10:45:53 GMT -8
Nice, I didn't know that. Perhaps there's a spot for him on The Mountian. lol Since I didn't until recently, you may also not know this. There's a reason beyond his personal fame that James managed to put pressure on Leach at Tech. Craig attended SMU only because SMU cheated way more than Tech. It's not entirely clear to what extent, but basically everybody in the SWC cheated in those days but SMU, which had been better than basically nobody but Baylor and Rice, was determined to challenge for conference titles and so provided top notch money, hookers and whatever. I forget how Dickerson decided to go there rather than Texas but it was a huge coup and once he committed, they got a bunch of other all-state players, including James. James was also a coup because his family had historically attended Tech and IIRC, his parents were none too pleased that he chose SMU. Anyway, the James name is immense in little Lubbock. The Leach name, not so much. (Leach is an LDS guy from Utah, albeit apparently a Jack Mormon.) And to further my schooling for today, what is a "Jack Morman"? A backslider? Or a person who has strayed from the church?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 11:58:52 GMT -8
And to further my schooling for today, what is a "Jack Morman"? A backslider? Or a person who has strayed from the church? Somebody who doesn't toe the line of the church's hierarchy. As an example, a good friend of mine is a Mormon who can drink anybody I know under the table. Somebody told me "Jack" is in reference to Jack Daniels. I don't know if that is true but it fits my friend.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Jul 14, 2012 12:39:45 GMT -8
All I read from your response was, "sorry I didn't have time to read that whole thing where you just owned me. I'm just gonna ignore that whole post and throw up some facts that support my flawed and very muddy position." That is your choice of course. But when someone starts a polemic with somewhat misleading statistics, I lose enthusiasm for trying to respond to multiple paragraphs of tainted information. I might have come back to it later, but for now that was enough. Lol you basically just described your own arguments. You know like how you claimed Boise did it with mostly 3 stars.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Jul 14, 2012 12:48:10 GMT -8
All I read from your response was, "sorry I didn't have time to read that whole thing where you just owned me. I'm just gonna ignore that whole post and throw up some facts that support my flawed and very muddy position." And did you not have a response to the points which I did address? I mean other than sarcasm? Oh so thats how it works? You don't respond to any of the BS you got called out on and instead just focus on changing the topic. Phucking amateur hour over here. Gtfo with that 3rd grade crap.
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