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Post by uwaztec on Aug 26, 2010 11:40:40 GMT -8
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Post by tuff on Aug 26, 2010 12:39:13 GMT -8
I agree with him(Beck).
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Post by uwaztec on Aug 26, 2010 15:22:37 GMT -8
that " Barack Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people" really??? Look I am not the biggest Obama fan, but this really does qualify as nuts...sorry. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 26, 2010 17:21:12 GMT -8
Just another talking head talking. For the most part I avoid the talking heads. There are more productive things to do with my life. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 26, 2010 18:50:32 GMT -8
I am not much of a Beck fan. I agree with a lot of his content (not all) but his presentation is boring so I don't watch or listen all tat much. He does say some outrageous stuff but so do the ding bats on the left and they never make sense.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 27, 2010 10:22:20 GMT -8
I cannot agree in the slightest with Beck's calling Obama an anti-white racist. However, I wonder how many viewed that entire clip. Beck raised a number of issues, some of which have merit.
The trouble is that when you start our with an inflammatory word such as "racist," few are going to focus on the rest of your presentation. Especially those who are on the Left and are predisposed to disliking Beck in the first place.
I think Beck has a point when he says that a lot of Obama's experiences cause him to have a very low opinion of many aspects of American culture that the vast majority of us take for granted.
AzWm
PS: The "Beer Summit" was just embarrassingly stupid. Obama apparently had some rudimentary understanding that his "The police acted stupidly" remark was a monumental gaffe. So, he thought to himself, I have to do something to turn this situation around in the eyes of the public. Instead, he just made himself look like a fool. He would have been much better off not commenting in the first place. However, the staged event just made things worse.
What you really want in a President is good judgment. He showed bad judgment in his original statement and even worse judgment in the clumsy attempt to make things right. Sadly, these are not the only instances in which Barack Obama has displayed major league level bad judgment.
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Post by uwaztec on Aug 27, 2010 11:08:38 GMT -8
I cannot agree in the slightest with Beck's calling Obama an anti-white racist. However, I wonder how many viewed that entire clip. Beck raised a number of issues, some of which have merit. The trouble is that when you start our with an inflammatory word such as "racist," few are going to focus on the rest of your presentation. Especially those who are on the Left and are predisposed to disliking Beck in the first place. I think Beck has a point when he says that a lot of Obama's experiences cause him to have a very low opinion of many aspects of American culture that the vast majority of us take for granted. AzWm PS: The "Beer Summit" was just embarrassingly stupid. Obama apparently had some rudimentary understanding that his "The police acted stupidly" remark was a monumental gaffe. So, he thought to himself, I have to do something to turn this situation around in the eyes of the public. Instead, he just made himself look like a fool. He would have been much better off not commenting in the first place. However, the staged event just made things worse. What you really want in a President is good judgment. He showed bad judgment in his original statement and even worse judgment in the clumsy attempt to make things right. Sadly, these are not the only instances in which Barack Obama has displayed major league level bad judgment. William, you guys on the Right are getting "worked" by this guy. He is taking money from the tea party and FOX audience like candy from a baby. I know the Right feels pushed in a corner by the current atmosphere, but if you are not a "true believer" "hook line and sinker" type you should take this guy with a grain of salt. He is using methods from the televangelists..such as crocodile tears to manipulate his audiences. He has a big problem with one of the great faces on Mt. Rushmore..Teddy Roosevelt ("Socialist"). I have more of a problem with the founders of his religion where he is sending at least 10%. Beck has big goals and is the ultimate manipulator...he even has a smart guy like O'Reilly licking his backside. You will not beleive me, but I am a moderate... |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 28, 2010 8:23:35 GMT -8
uwaztec, you need to understand this. I am not a Beck groupie or dittohead, or whatever a Beck true believer is called. I am more than smart enough to consider a TV personality's presentation in critical terms. The same goes for Rush.
Whatever shortcomings Beck has, it is also true that he does raise important issues that merit consideration. And, unlike Rush, Beck has interesting guests who, in almost all cases, are authorities in whatever field they represent. That doesn't mean that I buy everything they say. I don't buy everything that Frank Rich or Paul Krugman write, either, but at least I do pay attention to them.
My approach is, in other words, how an intelligent and educated person is supposed to evaluate data. You should not assume otherwise.
AzWm
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 28, 2010 9:06:21 GMT -8
My approach is to remind people not to waste their time listening to talking heads.
You can be outside gardening, or reading to children in the Public Library, or officiating Soccer games for youth teams, or coaching basketball, or sweeping the street in front of your and your neighbor's house.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 28, 2010 9:21:54 GMT -8
My approach is to remind people not to waste their time listening to talking heads. You can be outside gardening, or reading to children in the Public Library, or officiating Soccer games for youth teams, or coaching basketball, or sweeping the street in front of your and your neighbor's house. Okay, Joe, I admit that you have made some good points here. AzWm |
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Post by tuff on Sept 7, 2010 19:32:16 GMT -8
Just another talking head talking. For the most part I avoid the talking heads. There are more productive things to do with my life. So, because I agree with Beck and have a right to my opinion to do so, I'm a talking head. So be it.... |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 7, 2010 19:54:40 GMT -8
Just another talking head talking. For the most part I avoid the talking heads. There are more productive things to do with my life. So, because I agree with Beck and have a right to my opinion to do so, I'm a talking head. So be it.... I agree with Beck most of the time, but just don't like the way he does things. Nothing wrong with you! |
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Post by uwaztec on Sept 7, 2010 20:57:05 GMT -8
So, because I agree with Beck and have a right to my opinion to do so, I'm a talking head. So be it.... I agree with Beck most of the time, but just don't like the way he does things. Nothing wrong with you! So Win...just to mention two. Do you believe Teddy Roosevelt was a "socialist"?....if so, should we maybe carve him out of Mt. Rushmore? Do you believe that Beck is "channeling God" for the masses?.... I thought that wasn't possible for you since his Bible is the "Book of Mormon"? |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 8, 2010 8:06:48 GMT -8
I agree with Beck most of the time, but just don't like the way he does things. Nothing wrong with you! So Win...just to mention two. Do you believe Teddy Roosevelt was a "socialist"?....if so, should we maybe carve him out of Mt. Rushmore? Do you believe that Beck is "channeling God" for the masses?.... I thought that wasn't possible for you since his Bible is the "Book of Mormon"? I think that Beck has deluded himself into believing that he is the next Joseph Smith. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 8, 2010 10:18:35 GMT -8
So Win...just to mention two. Do you believe Teddy Roosevelt was a "socialist"?....if so, should we maybe carve him out of Mt. Rushmore? Do you believe that Beck is "channeling God" for the masses?.... I thought that wasn't possible for you since his Bible is the "Book of Mormon"? I think that Beck has deluded himself into believing that he is the next Joseph Smith. There was only one Joseph Smith who used to go out with his mentally ill father and search for buried gold in upstate New York. The elder Smith thought that a pirate had buried all of his swag on one of the local farms, so at night he would go dig up his neighbors barnyards and pastures. Joseph never did help his father find the gold, but he wrote about finding golden plates in the Book of Mormon. To those who knew about the screwy family, they just figured that Joseph was as off balance as his father. To others who did not know about the mental problems, Joseph was a saint, approved of God to show them the heavenly plan to populate and become gods all of the planets in the Universe. Mormons believe they are actively accomplishing this task today. The rest of us usually think otherwise. To each his own. ;^) |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 8, 2010 11:40:44 GMT -8
I agree with Beck most of the time, but just don't like the way he does things. Nothing wrong with you! So Win...just to mention two. Do you believe Teddy Roosevelt was a "socialist"?....if so, should we maybe carve him out of Mt. Rushmore? Do you believe that Beck is "channeling God" for the masses?.... I thought that wasn't possible for you since his Bible is the "Book of Mormon"? I don't think either of those things are correct. I don't know that I have paid close enough attention to have noticed. Don't Mormons use both the Bible and the Book Of Mormon? I am of the opinion that Mormons are some sort of benign cult that has some beliefs that would preclude them from being considered Protestant like Christians. That does not by any means say that they are bad people, just that they are outside my belief system. Where and in what context does Beck claim to be channeling God? Where I think most people who can think agree with some of Beck's views are more political in nature. He points out the evil and short comings of liberals. |
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Post by Steve A on Sept 11, 2010 20:20:27 GMT -8
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 17, 2010 6:42:32 GMT -8
So Win...just to mention two. Do you believe Teddy Roosevelt was a "socialist"?....if so, should we maybe carve him out of Mt. Rushmore? Do you believe that Beck is "channeling God" for the masses?.... I thought that wasn't possible for you since his Bible is the "Book of Mormon"? I don't think either of those things are correct. I don't know that I have paid close enough attention to have noticed. Don't Mormons use both the Bible and the Book Of Mormon? I am of the opinion that Mormons are some sort of benign cult that has some beliefs that would preclude them from being considered Protestant like Christians. That does not by any means say that they are bad people, just that they are outside my belief system. Where and in what context does Beck claim to be channeling God? Where I think most people who can think agree with some of Beck's views are more political in nature. He points out the evil and short comings of liberals. Mormons and Scientologists believe in bringing Sci Fi into religion. The Scientologists have a whole secret wealth of information about intergalactic space wars, and the Mormons believe that if you become a good enough mormom you will be teleported through the vastness of space to be the God over your own planet. Pretty fuggin far out, but what the hell, when I was laying with those Hindu chicks many years ago, they were telling me about ancient Hindu history and all of the outer space wars that were fought just above the Earth's atmosphere and in it. Supposedly there was nuclear warfare thousands of years ago. Supposedly there is scientific proof that confirms all of the fighting and nuclear damage. At the time I put all of that aside and just concentrated on the girls. Boy life was fun back then. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 17, 2010 11:53:30 GMT -8
I don't think either of those things are correct. I don't know that I have paid close enough attention to have noticed. Don't Mormons use both the Bible and the Book Of Mormon? I am of the opinion that Mormons are some sort of benign cult that has some beliefs that would preclude them from being considered Protestant like Christians. That does not by any means say that they are bad people, just that they are outside my belief system. Where and in what context does Beck claim to be channeling God? Where I think most people who can think agree with some of Beck's views are more political in nature. He points out the evil and short comings of liberals. Mormons and Scientologists believe in bringing Sci Fi into religion. The Scientologists have a whole secret wealth of information about intergalactic space wars, and the Mormons believe that if you become a good enough mormom you will be teleported through the vastness of space to be the God over your own planet. Pretty fuggin far out, but what the hell, when I was laying with those Hindu chicks many years ago, they were telling me about ancient Hindu history and all of the outer space wars that were fought just above the Earth's atmosphere and in it. Supposedly there was nuclear warfare thousands of years ago. Supposedly there is scientific proof that confirms all of the fighting and nuclear damage. At the time I put all of that aside and just concentrated on the girls. Boy life was fun back then. What did you hear on the rooftops in the Wanchai district of Hong Kong? |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 17, 2010 19:40:58 GMT -8
Mormons and Scientologists believe in bringing Sci Fi into religion. The Scientologists have a whole secret wealth of information about intergalactic space wars, and the Mormons believe that if you become a good enough mormom you will be teleported through the vastness of space to be the God over your own planet. Pretty fuggin far out, but what the hell, when I was laying with those Hindu chicks many years ago, they were telling me about ancient Hindu history and all of the outer space wars that were fought just above the Earth's atmosphere and in it. Supposedly there was nuclear warfare thousands of years ago. Supposedly there is scientific proof that confirms all of the fighting and nuclear damage. At the time I put all of that aside and just concentrated on the girls. Boy life was fun back then. What did you hear on the rooftops in the Wanchai district of Hong Kong? Actually nothing there. I'm trying to remember. Everytime we went to Hong Kong 1968 - 1973 we pulled into the dangerous harbor and had to ride long ride liberty launches. I think we landed at a place called Fenwick Pier and diagonally across from it was a British Club that had cheap beer. That was as far as I got on my first day's liberty (I was still a teenager.) I tasted about eight different types of beer and went back to the ship to sleep it off. The next day I took photos of Victoria Island and lots of other spots in the colony. On the third day I visited the border and chanted along with the Red Guards on the other side of the border. I think I was chanting obscenities that corresponded to the red book wavers chants. That was fun as I had to improvise with every new chant. Life was fun because I was just a punk kid, acting silly. The last time I was there in '73 Just a few months before I started college, I spent a lot of time in stores buying crap that I did not need, but bought it because it was so inexpensive. I even bought two silk suits ($20 each) from a tailor who hounded me and then six shirts (nice quality and fabric for only two dollars each. I used those suits for thirty years and two of my sons wore them to big school dances in the last few years. They still look like new after all these years. |
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