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Post by 78aztec82 on Mar 31, 2012 16:24:45 GMT -8
If he puts in the work and plays within the team concept, he could be a high pick.
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Post by uncledougy on Mar 31, 2012 16:26:32 GMT -8
Someone's got to put away the glue...this is crazy talk! A lottery pick, no chance. I would think gwtting drafted would be a huge accomplishment. Just because he was POY for the MWC doesn't make him a lock for the NBA. He has mad skills, but in my mind nowhere close to NBA calibur.
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Post by AztecTom on Mar 31, 2012 16:29:08 GMT -8
People thought Kawhi was a tweener, Jamaal is much more of a tweener than Kawhi.
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Post by insider on Mar 31, 2012 16:32:47 GMT -8
0 chance
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Post by iambballanalyst on Mar 31, 2012 16:42:08 GMT -8
Off the top of the head....NBA Shooting Guards under 6'6
Arron Afflalo Monta Ellis Ray Allen Richard Hamilton Dwayne Wade JR Smith Joe Johnson Jason Terry Shannon Brown Manu Ginobli Eric Gordon Marcus Thornton Jamaal Crawford Jordan Crawford Nick Young Wesley Mathews Anthony Morrow Jason Richardson JJ Redick Thabo Sefalosha Jodie Meeks DeShawn Stevenson Gerald Henderson Rodney Stuckey Ben Gordon Mo Williams Rudy Fernandez Daequan Cook Daniel Gipson Manny Harris Jimmer Fredette Michael Redd Roger Mason Jr. Von Wafer Donte Jones Marquis Daniels Keyon Dooling George Hill
Damn that's a long list!
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 31, 2012 16:47:32 GMT -8
I don't think he is a shooting guard at this point. He gets most of his points going towards the hoop and from the free throw line. He still has to work on that shooting. At this point and time is is a good rebounder and free throw shooter. Needs work on decision making and shooting. The program list Jamaal as a SG, Steve Fisher considers Jamaal a SG. So that makes him a Shooting Guard. Getting to the free throw line with great frequency and making your free throws isn't what defines a players position, it simply shows that a particular player is dominating. Jamaal's ability in transition, his size and his skill set makes him a SG. Even with a relativeloy low shooting %, Jamaal still showed ability to shoot the ball, especially in clutch situations. Towards the end of last year he proved he was one of the best play makers on the team and a very gifted passer. The problem is, SDSU didn't have many gifted finishers around the rim besides Jamaal so he was usually passing off to bigs that missed lay ups or guards that missed jump shots. Jamaal led the team and was 3rd in the MWC in FG% in conference games. Would you agree that he he needs to work on his ball handling BIG TIME, before there's any talk of this? His dribbling in traffic is absolutely not where it should be. I'll also include the fact that he needs to work on his decision making big time. Having said that, I wouldn't count him out of anything the way he gets after it.
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Post by insider on Mar 31, 2012 16:48:30 GMT -8
Off the top of the head....NBA Shooting Guards under 6'6 Arron Afflalo Monta Ellis Ray Allen Richard Hamilton Dwayne Wade JR Smith Joe Johnson Jason Terry Shannon Brown Manu Ginobli Eric Gordon Marcus Thornton Jamaal Crawford Jordan Crawford Nick Young Wesley Mathews Anthony Morrow Jason Richardson JJ Redick Thabo Sefalosha Jodie Meeks DeShawn Stevenson Gerald Henderson Rodney Stuckey Ben Gordon Mo Williams Rudy Fernandez Daequan Cook Daniel Gipson Manny Harris Jimmer Fredette Michael Redd Roger Mason Jr. Von Wafer Donte Jones Marquis Daniels Keyon Dooling George Hill Damn that's a long list! This list in credibly innacurate, just off the top of my head I know Richard Hamilton, Michael Redd, Manu are all 6'6 or taller and im not going to look up all there heights, Jamaal needs to learn to dribble with his left if he wants to have any chance of being a first rounder, he made 0 progress in that regard this year.
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Post by AztecTom on Mar 31, 2012 16:48:59 GMT -8
Off the top of the head....NBA Shooting Guards under 6'6 Arron Afflalo Monta Ellis Ray Allen Richard Hamilton Dwayne Wade JR Smith Joe Johnson Jason Terry Shannon Brown Manu Ginobli Eric Gordon Marcus Thornton Jamaal Crawford Jordan Crawford Nick Young Wesley Mathews Anthony Morrow Jason Richardson JJ Redick Thabo Sefalosha Jodie Meeks DeShawn Stevenson Gerald Henderson Rodney Stuckey Ben Gordon Mo Williams Rudy Fernandez Daequan Cook Daniel Gipson Manny Harris Jimmer Fredette Michael Redd Roger Mason Jr. Von Wafer Donte Jones Marquis Daniels Keyon Dooling George Hill Damn that's a long list! WTF! Nick Young is 6'7. I am not even going to waste my time and check any of these. Your full of $#!+ as usual. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Young_%28basketball%29
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Post by iambballanalyst on Mar 31, 2012 16:52:07 GMT -8
The program list Jamaal as a SG, Steve Fisher considers Jamaal a SG. So that makes him a Shooting Guard. Getting to the free throw line with great frequency and making your free throws isn't what defines a players position, it simply shows that a particular player is dominating. Jamaal's ability in transition, his size and his skill set makes him a SG. Even with a relativeloy low shooting %, Jamaal still showed ability to shoot the ball, especially in clutch situations. Towards the end of last year he proved he was one of the best play makers on the team and a very gifted passer. The problem is, SDSU didn't have many gifted finishers around the rim besides Jamaal so he was usually passing off to bigs that missed lay ups or guards that missed jump shots. Jamaal led the team and was 3rd in the MWC in FG% in conference games. Would you agree that he he needs to work on his ball handling BIG TIME, before there's any talk of this? His dribbling in traffic is absolutely not where it should be. I'll also include the fact that he needs to work on his decision making big time. Having said that, I wouldn't count him out of anything the way he gets after it. There is a huge difference between being an NBA starter/ All Star than there is to simply get drafted. There are players that will get drafted in the lottery this year that Jamaal is better than. Jamaal could contribute off the NBA bench as a score/hustle guy right now. But to answer your question, yes he could improve in every aspect of the game...as is true in every young player.
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Post by SDSUpreme on Mar 31, 2012 16:53:01 GMT -8
Size and athleticism are definitely not an issue.. and JF being drafted in the first round or the lottery is not crazy talk by any means. I'm starting to question if some of people on this board watch or have even played basketball before..
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Post by AztecTom on Mar 31, 2012 16:53:06 GMT -8
The program list Jamaal as a SG, Steve Fisher considers Jamaal a SG. So that makes him a Shooting Guard. Getting to the free throw line with great frequency and making your free throws isn't what defines a players position, it simply shows that a particular player is dominating. Jamaal's ability in transition, his size and his skill set makes him a SG. Even with a relativeloy low shooting %, Jamaal still showed ability to shoot the ball, especially in clutch situations. Towards the end of last year he proved he was one of the best play makers on the team and a very gifted passer. The problem is, SDSU didn't have many gifted finishers around the rim besides Jamaal so he was usually passing off to bigs that missed lay ups or guards that missed jump shots. Jamaal led the team and was 3rd in the MWC in FG% in conference games. Would you agree that he he needs to work on his ball handling BIG TIME, before there's any talk of this? His dribbling in traffic is absolutely not where it should be. I'll also include the fact that he needs to work on his decision making big time. Having said that, I wouldn't count him out of anything the way he gets after it. 100% agree with you John. But don't forget Jamaal is the second coming of God and can walk on water.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Mar 31, 2012 16:58:45 GMT -8
You're right. Rip, Manu, Joe, JR, and Nick are all over 6'6. My mistake. But look at how many other SG's are under 6'6.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 31, 2012 17:04:20 GMT -8
Would you agree that he he needs to work on his ball handling BIG TIME, before there's any talk of this? His dribbling in traffic is absolutely not where it should be. I'll also include the fact that he needs to work on his decision making big time. Having said that, I wouldn't count him out of anything the way he gets after it. There is a huge difference between being an NBA starter/ All Star than there is to simply get drafted. There are players that will get drafted in the lottery this year that Jamaal is better than. Jamaal could contribute off the NBA bench as a score/hustle guy right now. But to answer your question, yes he could improve in every aspect of the game...as is true in every young player. I get that, but his ball handling is so subpar to me(not his passing)that it sticks out like a sore thumb. I also understand that people get drafted on pure potential alone, and that they'll figure that they can work on his ball handling 24/7. It only takes one GM or scout to fall in love with him, so you never know.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Mar 31, 2012 17:05:43 GMT -8
Size and athleticism are definitely not an issue.. and JF being drafted in the first round or the lottery is not crazy talk by any means. I'm starting to question if some of people on this board watch or have even played basketball before.. I think people on this forum follow basketball very closely and for the most part have respectable basketball knowledge, but they're just not used to seeing NBA talent at San Diego State... so automatically they assume the nations recognizable elite are always going to be better than the talent at their own school. This is evident in the recent idolization of SDSU alumnist Kawhi Leonard who was good enough (not great) to get drafted 1 pick outside of the lottery. He's being labeled the best Aztec player ever even though he's not considered NBA All Star material just yet. To suggest that Jamaal's talent is superior to Kawhi's is considered blasphemy to the average Aztecmesa poster even though Jamaal has arguably superior individual accomplishments up to this point in their respective college careers. If Jamaal had a North Carolina jersey on and averaged 20/10 in the ACC and was named POY and All American, these very same fans would have a completely different opinion of the exact same skill set. The general bias of how most fans and scouts judge talent exist even with how we judge our own players.
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Post by coolethan on Mar 31, 2012 17:08:11 GMT -8
Size won't be an issue with Jamaal at the next level. He's definitely a shooting guard nothing in between about it. Anyone claiming he's not tall enough to be a 2 in the NBA is just nitpicking.
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Post by sdfootballfan on Mar 31, 2012 17:09:12 GMT -8
If he can improve his ball handling and learn to make better decisions as far as knowing when to take shots vs. passing the ball, I don't see why not. Another year under Fisher will do wonders for him.
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Post by bschmurda on Mar 31, 2012 17:53:55 GMT -8
6'5 is not short for a 2
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Post by AztecTom on Mar 31, 2012 17:59:39 GMT -8
It's not tall for a 2 either.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Mar 31, 2012 18:05:14 GMT -8
If Jamaal plays his cards right, the lottery commission would be crazy not to ask him to do some PSA's about the benefits of lottery revenue towards K-14 education.
Agreed. Lottery is a definite possibility.
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Post by danloc09 on Mar 31, 2012 18:08:10 GMT -8
If Jamaal plays his cards right, the lottery commission would be crazy not to ask him to do some PSA's about the benefits of lottery revenue towards K-14 education. Agreed. Lottery is a definite possibility. /thread
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