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Post by aztec619 on Aug 9, 2010 13:17:42 GMT -8
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Post by azteken on Aug 9, 2010 13:20:24 GMT -8
So what if they've got a few SEC transfers. As we know only too well here, it take more than a few good players. How many threads on why we can send players to the NFL but can't win? Anyway, that's not Mark Ingraham transferring from the SEC; probably guys who wanted more PT.
If you take the Sagarin ratings from last year (far from a fool-proof poll, I admit, but one that ranks all of D-1 -- FBS & FCS combined), we finished 103 and Nicholls St. finished 207. And this is the same Nicholls St. that gave up 70-something to AFA.
The players need to respect NSU. The fans don't.
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Post by aztec619 on Aug 9, 2010 13:29:20 GMT -8
So what if they've got a few SEC transfers. As we know only too well here, it take more than a few good players. How many threads on why we can send players to the NFL but can't win? Anyway, that's not Mark Ingraham transferring from the SEC; probably guys who wanted more PT. If you take the Sagarin ratings from last year (far from a fool-proof poll, I admit, but one that ranks all of D-1 -- FBS & FCS combined), we finished 103 and Nicholls St. finished 207. And this is the same Nicholls St. that gave up 70-something to AFA. The players need to respect NSU. The fans don't. Agree with you azteken on "so what if they have some sec transfers" I didn't hear the interview where coach Hoke stated they had some transfers, but maybe he was saying this to make it a point to the team that they should not take any team for granted. Random question: When we lost to cal poly each time, what was their sagarin rating compared to our those years? I think somewhere it was posted that they had a better one, right? If that really was true...damn. Well only one way to go right! That's up! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2010 13:57:14 GMT -8
So what if they've got a few SEC transfers. As we know only too well here, it take more than a few good players. How many threads on why we can send players to the NFL but can't win? Anyway, that's not Mark Ingraham transferring from the SEC; probably guys who wanted more PT. If you take the Sagarin ratings from last year (far from a fool-proof poll, I admit, but one that ranks all of D-1 -- FBS & FCS combined), we finished 103 and Nicholls St. finished 207. And this is the same Nicholls St. that gave up 70-something to AFA. 72 to AFA, which beat us by just 12, albeit by virtue of a last-play TD we scored. As to the SEC transfers, seems to me there are only two. Not just that, but I can't find anything on Rivals which says they signed an LOI. From that I conclude they were walk-ons. And from THAT, I conclude that I probably overrated Nicholls above. We lost by Cal Poly twice, but like Portland State in Chuck's second season, Cal Poly had several transfers from AQ schools who had actually been on scholarship. We won't beat Nicholls anywhere near as bad as AFA did since knowing Hoke, he will pull our starters early to allow some of the inexperienced guys to get some snaps. However, looking more closely at Nicholls' roster, I think we will score more than the 34 points I said above. Somewhere in the 40s, I'll say. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 9, 2010 13:59:29 GMT -8
Heard a Hoke interview the other day. He said that Nichols State had several SEC transfers---you never know!! Yes, Hoke said they should be pretty talented. He has know idea if they are better or worse than last year because of the many transfers from bigger conf's. We should be ready for anything in that game, but I think we will walk away with them by 20 or more. |
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Post by monty on Aug 9, 2010 14:06:06 GMT -8
The hoke interview the way I remember it is he doesn't know what to expect out of them because of the transfers.
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Post by McQuervo on Aug 9, 2010 14:19:24 GMT -8
this is a different staff than the last clowns/poor excuses. Rocky will have them ready to play-count on it. Offensively we will run it up just like the old days-way too much talent and motivation.
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 9, 2010 14:22:42 GMT -8
this is a different staff than the last clowns/poor excuses. Rocky will have them ready to play-count on it. Offensively we will run it up just like the old days-way too much talent and motivation. And don't forget McQ....Nicholls State will come in ranked about 70-80 spots lower than Cal Poly was. This will (AND should be) a pushover game. The Cal Poly game was rated about even. It was supposed to be a 1 or 2 point game by anybody that knows football at all. (And it was) |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 9, 2010 14:59:49 GMT -8
Cal Poly was ranked in the top 25 and chasing a BCS bowl bid, a loss to them was like losing to LSU in the Bayou.
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Post by Gringo Bandito on Aug 9, 2010 15:59:06 GMT -8
In a sense, this kind of game is a no-win situation for the home team. If you lose, you are less than chopped liver. If you win, people say, What do you expect when you play a team such as Nichols State?. This is the same line of logic I use to explain why guys shouldn't play girls in pool ;D |
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Post by McQuervo on Aug 9, 2010 16:31:47 GMT -8
this is a different staff than the last clowns/poor excuses. Rocky will have them ready to play-count on it. Offensively we will run it up just like the old days-way too much talent and motivation. And don't forget McQ....Nicholls State will come in ranked about 70-80 spots lower than Cal Poly was. This will (AND should be) a pushover game. The Cal Poly game was rated about even. It was supposed to be a 1 or 2 point game by anybody that knows football at all. (And it was) Why call me out? Most here feel the same way. Cow Pollie is a good d1aa school. Still a d1aa school.  |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 9, 2010 16:35:03 GMT -8
So what if they've got a few SEC transfers. As we know only too well here, it take more than a few good players. That year we played South Florida, they had something like 5 or 6 players who were SEC transfers. It definitely takes more than a few good players (and given that they could cut it at an SEC school, I'd have to question how good they are). =Bob |
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Post by monty on Aug 9, 2010 18:20:17 GMT -8
Cal Poly was ranked in the top 25 and chasing a BCS bowl bid, a loss to them was like losing to LSU in the Bayou. That was the 1st year, the second time we played them they were chasing a wild card birth but the Steelers won in week 17 |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 9, 2010 18:46:29 GMT -8
Cal Poly was ranked in the top 25 and chasing a BCS bowl bid, a loss to them was like losing to LSU in the Bayou. No, they were ranked about #92 in the only poll that lists both D1 and D1A teams (or whatever the hell it is called). We were ranked about the same. There were no odds on the game here in the U.S., but Caliente had it as a 1 point game. A friend of mine who coaches football had seen both teams work out and said Cal Poly was a little more athletic than us and he didn't know if we could beat them or not. On the other hand, Nicholls State is horrible. I don't know where the hell you came up with that LSU comment, but Cal Poly did go to Wisconsin in the last game that season on the road and took them to OT. We weren't supposed to blow out Cal Poly. They were as good as we were that season. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 9, 2010 18:47:38 GMT -8
And don't forget McQ....Nicholls State will come in ranked about 70-80 spots lower than Cal Poly was. This will (AND should be) a pushover game. The Cal Poly game was rated about even. It was supposed to be a 1 or 2 point game by anybody that knows football at all. (And it was) Why call me out? Most here feel the same way. Cow Pollie is a good d1aa school. Still a d1aa school. Why? You know why. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 9, 2010 19:20:23 GMT -8
Cal Poly was ranked in the top 25 and chasing a BCS bowl bid, a loss to them was like There were no odds on the game here in the U.S., but Caliente had it as a 1 point game. A friend of mine who coaches football had seen both teams work out and said Cal Poly was a little more athletic than us and he didn't know if we could beat them or not. On the other hand, Nicholls State is horrible. I don't know where the hell you came up with that LSU comment, but Cal Poly did go to Wisconsin in the last game that season on the road and took them to OT. We weren't supposed to blow out Cal Poly. They were as good as we were that season. State was lucky to be in the game. Without a doubt State was the inferior team. It was actually the coaching that gave us a shot. |
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Post by azteken on Aug 9, 2010 19:26:24 GMT -8
Who knows anything about Nicholles State? Air Farce beat them 72-0 (makes me wonder if CL has relatives coaching there...) I reviewed the schedule-  ;D 9/4/2010 7 p.m. San Diego State San Diego, Calif. 9/11/2010 7 p.m. Western Michigan Kalamazoo, Mich. 9/18/2010 4 p.m. South Alabama Mobile, Ala. 9/25/2010 4 p.m. Bacone Thibodaux, La. 10/9/2010 4 p.m. Sam Houston State Thibodaux, La. 10/16/2010 6 p.m. Texas State San Marcos, Texas 10/23/2010 4 p.m. Central Arkansas Thibodaux, La. 10/30/2010 7 p.m. McNeese State Lake Charles, La. 11/6/2010 4 p.m. Stephen F. Austin Thibodaux, La. 11/13/2010 6 p.m. Northwestern State Natchitoches, La. 11/18/2010 7 p.m. Southeastern Louisiana Thibodaux, La. I had never heard of Bacone College before. They can't be all bad: all black unis with bright red helmets (although they need black facemasks). They look sharp! athletics.bacone.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=266&Itemid=440 |
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Post by McQuervo on Aug 9, 2010 19:46:57 GMT -8
Why call me out? Most here feel the same way. Cow Pollie is a good d1aa school. Still a d1aa school. Why? You know why. No I don't. |
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Post by monty on Aug 9, 2010 19:46:57 GMT -8
Cal Poly was ranked in the top 25 and chasing a BCS bowl bid, a loss to them was like There were no odds on the game here in the U.S., but Caliente had it as a 1 point game. A friend of mine who coaches football had seen both teams work out and said Cal Poly was a little more athletic than us and he didn't know if we could beat them or not. On the other hand, Nicholls State is horrible. I don't know where the hell you came up with that LSU comment, but Cal Poly did go to Wisconsin in the last game that season on the road and took them to OT. We weren't supposed to blow out Cal Poly. They were as good as we were that season. State was lucky to be in the game. Without a doubt State was the inferior team. It was actually the coaching that gave us a shot. Without a doubt, and to think how far we came in 3 years - in year one we realized how far behind in talent of a 1aa school we were by losing to them and in 20 some short games we were able to admirably close the gap to where only a late field goal on our home field allowed them to squeak out the win and set the stage for an 8 game losing streak. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Aug 9, 2010 20:27:10 GMT -8
I hate over-confidence. It always bites us in the ass. Even if we win, we play to the level of competition and that has to stop. Go watch a few videos of the Michigan - Appalachian State upset game, that should put things into perspective. Sorry guys, after losing to Cal Poly (twice) we have no business thinking we're all that, IMHO. You must "RESPECT" all competition and play them hard consistently. Oldie Out True enough, but Appalachian State was obscure in name only. They have a helluva football program. Read their history. Many who follow college football closely were surprised, not shocked, at the outcome. More so because it was at the Big House. It would be like if Bobby Hauck's Montana Grizzlies beat UCLA....I would be surprised, not shocked. Hauck will win at UNLV. Give him 2-3 years. |
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