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Post by steveaztec on Aug 2, 2010 21:16:07 GMT -8
Yes Tom.....DJ will play the majority of the minutes with LaBradford spelling him. Big year for DJ and we will be able to see a budding star in LaBradford Franklin off the bench. Sorry to get off topic Steve but why do your dodgers suck ass? Good question Tom.....I am not real happy right now with the Dodgers performance over the last couple of weeks.  |
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Post by AztecTom on Aug 2, 2010 21:19:39 GMT -8
Sorry to get off topic Steve but why do your dodgers suck ass? Good question Tom.....I am not real happy right now with the Dodgers performance over the last couple of weeks. Really sad to hear that, breaks my heart. |
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Post by Village Aztec on Aug 2, 2010 23:26:55 GMT -8
PM personal messages. Saves everyone some time. I know it is quite time.
We do a lot of did you ever wonder?
Here is a fact, Volley ball used to match the size of some basket ball games.
That is a San Diego Sport we lost and had a National Championship.
So we need to fight for new money so this never happens again.
Keep focused on promotion and reaching outsiders.
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 3, 2010 8:35:52 GMT -8
Good question Tom.....I am not real happy right now with the Dodgers performance over the last couple of weeks. Really sad to hear that, breaks my heart. I know how you feel. As I have said, I grew up with all Giant fans. They hate us worse than Padre fans do (and thats the way it should be  ) |
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 3, 2010 13:59:42 GMT -8
I think DJ Gay will eventually become the 6th man ala John Sharper, with LBF and Tapley/Rahon as the starters. The competition will be good and you certainly can't count out DJ, he does have experience and a ton of heart. I like our big men too, should be a terrific season. DJ will be the starter for the whole season. I wouldn't be so sure. KL came in with similar accolades and started right away, it is a possibility that LBF will get some starts this year or even win the job outright. Fisher runs a meritocracy and if LBF (a true pt guard) outshines DJ (a converted shooting guard) the position will be his. |
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Post by AztecTom on Aug 3, 2010 14:06:47 GMT -8
PM personal messages. Saves everyone some time. I know it is quite time. We do a lot of did you ever wonder? Here is a fact, Volley ball used to match the size of some basket ball games. That is a San Diego Sport we lost and had a National Championship. So we need to fight for new money so this never happens again. Keep focused on promotion and reaching outsiders. Volleyball use to out draw basketball games. Volleyball games were so fun to go to. We were usually ranked in the top 5. I remember being ranked in the top 3 in the nation as well. |
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Post by monty on Aug 3, 2010 14:09:37 GMT -8
DJ will be the starter for the whole season. I wouldn't be so sure. KL came in with similar accolades and started right away, it is a possibility that LBF will get some starts this year or even win the job outright. Fisher runs a meritocracy and if LBF (a true pt guard) outshines DJ (a converted shooting guard) the position will be his. Of course it is possible, but highly unlikely that DJ who has started just about as many games as anyone in Aztec history, is suddenly not going to start at one of the two guard spots. |
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Post by pokinsky on Aug 3, 2010 14:34:51 GMT -8
DJ will be the starter for the whole season. I wouldn't be so sure. KL came in with similar accolades and started right away, it is a possibility that LBF will get some starts this year or even win the job outright. Fisher runs a meritocracy and if LBF (a true pt guard) outshines DJ (a converted shooting guard) the position will be his. just because he was the starter does not mean he will remain the starter, but Fisher will pull players who cannot defend or who turn the ball over ... which are generally two things freshmen PG's struggle with. LBF (or Jamaal or Rahon) might surprise me ... and could earn a bunch of minutes at guard but I don't see DJ playing less than 27-30 mins per game. But it's Tapley that needs to watch his back for someone taking his minutes. Rahon and Jamaal are just as old and experienced as Tapley with transfer and prep school. I see the guard minutes breaking down like this ... DJ: 28 Tapley: 19 Rahon: 18 LBF: 10 Jamaal: 5 (10 at SF) |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 3, 2010 14:53:40 GMT -8
I wouldn't be so sure. KL came in with similar accolades and started right away, it is a possibility that LBF will get some starts this year or even win the job outright. Fisher runs a meritocracy and if LBF (a true pt guard) outshines DJ (a converted shooting guard) the position will be his. just because he was the starter does not mean he will remain the starter, but Fisher will pull players who cannot defend or who turn the ball over ... which are generally two things freshmen PG's struggle with. LBF (or Jamaal or Rahon) might surprise me ... and could earn a bunch of minutes at guard but I don't see DJ playing less than 27-30 mins per game. But it's Tapley that needs to watch his back for someone taking his minutes. Rahon and Jamaal are just as old and experienced as Tapley with transfer and prep school. I see the guard minutes breaking down like this ... DJ: 28 Tapley: 19 Rahon: 18 LBF: 10 Jamaal: 5 (10 at SF) I like your minutes there Pokinsky. I would make one small change though. I think Tapley will get about 25 and Rahon about 12. |
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Post by pokinsky on Aug 3, 2010 14:56:16 GMT -8
DJ will be the starter for the whole season. I wouldn't be so sure. KL came in with similar accolades and started right away, it is a possibility that LBF will get some starts this year or even win the job outright. Fisher runs a meritocracy and if LBF (a true pt guard) outshines DJ (a converted shooting guard) the position will be his. regardless of who wins between LBF and DJ ... do you think Tapley is better at anything right now than DJ? Even if LBF somehow wins the starting PG position this summer .. DJ will start and Tapley will come off the bench in a Matt Thomas type of role. And in all honesty ... I'm really hoping that LBF does win the starting PG position and that Jamaal or Rahon wins the starting SG position, because that will ultimately mean our talent level is much better and our backcourt is much improved from last year. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 3, 2010 14:59:46 GMT -8
I think Tapley is our second best all around player on the team right now and our best all around guard.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 3, 2010 15:15:20 GMT -8
With the current level the Aztec's recruiting, any freshman has a chance to start or even become an all conference performer. Jamaal Franklin could be the next great freshman, you never know until the season starts. This is a good thing. Honestly I have only seen LBF once in HS, but based on that one game, I think he has ability to play significant minutes as a freshman.
All of our guards are terrific, Gay and Tapley are tough competitors.
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Post by strasburger37 on Aug 3, 2010 15:27:14 GMT -8
I agree with that. State is started to have some studs roll into the building and it's not a stretch to think that some of them can contribute, and contribute a lot, right off the bat.
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Post by standiego on Aug 3, 2010 15:34:31 GMT -8
even though KL (top recruit)was a starter last year it took him a while to really get it going, Tapley did not start but worked his way into the starting line up. Both going from H.S. to D-1 ,a transition that sometimes takes some time to see where you fit both on offense and defense. The same may happen with the Franklins, and even Rahon after a season red shirting. Fisher does like to rotate players so I think they will get playing time and the opportunity to start but more important is who is on the floor during crunch time. The other factor is this year we have a tougher road schedule to start the season- the game with the Zags could have major consequences for our ratings and hopefully placement for March
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Post by hoobs on Aug 3, 2010 15:46:34 GMT -8
My goodness, what a wonderful discussion... "how is Fisher going to get all these insanely talented guards enough playing time..."
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 3, 2010 15:58:13 GMT -8
My goodness, what a wonderful discussion... "how is Fisher going to get all these insanely talented guards enough playing time..." I know this Hoobs.....Gonzaga fans were really shocked to learn that we didn't think James Rahon would be starting this year. I told them I thought he would back up Tapley. Rahon did quite well against Gonzaga his frosh year and most Zag fans thought he would be one of the best guards in the WCC by his Junior year. Yes, we are in a real good position right now at the guard spot. |
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Post by miners22 on Aug 3, 2010 17:58:48 GMT -8
WOW! Nice discussion about who will start, who should start,
how many minutes each player will play, and blah blah and etc..
Guess what? Does it really matter who is going to do what, when and how? Bottomline is, for first time in San Diego State's history, they may enter season ranked in the Top 25! San Diego State may have one of the toughest Non-Conf. and Conf. Schedules in their history!
So, it seems to me that the Aztecs Coaching Staff and Players will not have time to screw around about who is going to play and when! Aztecs players must check their egos at the door, be ready to play and win as many games as possible. Because if the Aztecs start off slow like they did last season, their season,
their hopes for a MWC title and deep run in the NCAA's will not
happen.
And when the losing starts and expectations are not met, then,
we will all complain and complain! Nothing wrong with wanting our favorite player(s) to start, play all the minutes, score all the points and get the awards. Well, folks, it does not always work out that way, does it?
In my opinion, Fisher would be foolish to "screw" around with a starting 5 that won a freaking MWC Championship and experiment with players who have yet to demonstrate that
they can perform at a high level in a pressure packed D1 basketball game!
Now, if the players are not performing next season like they did
last season, then, put 'em on the bench! Let the newcomers play to their heart's content. Again, bottomline, it is all about the WINS and LOSES! Does it really matter who plays, who starts and etc.? It does matter if the Aztecs loses games because of altered egos and poor chemistry because of lack of playing time!
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Post by hoobs on Aug 3, 2010 20:20:29 GMT -8
miners... IMO, the approach would be that last year's starting 5 are this year's starting 5... on day 1 of practice. But all bets are off (sort of) as of day 2... may the best man win. But of course, there is a stronger 'trust factor' for returning starters... who get a headstart, but new-comers have every chance to earn their playing time.
Bottom line, I think we'll see the same starting 5... but with more liberal substituting, Fisher probably playing a deeper bench than he has in any other season during his entire career.
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Post by pokinsky on Aug 4, 2010 9:30:19 GMT -8
So, it seems to me that the Aztecs Coaching Staff and Players will not have time to screw around about who is going to play and when! Aztecs players must check their egos at the door, be ready to play and win as many games as possible. Because if the Aztecs start off slow like they did last season, their season, their hopes for a MWC title and deep run in the NCAA's will not happen. In my opinion, Fisher would be foolish to "screw" around with a starting 5 that won a freaking MWC Championship and experiment with players who have yet to demonstrate that they can perform at a high level in a pressure packed D1 basketball game! Does it really matter who plays, who starts and etc.? It does matter if the Aztecs loses games because of altered egos and poor chemistry because of lack of playing time! Last year the experienced players came off the bench and our team was better for it. Shelley and Carlwell were redshirt transfers that had been in our system for over a year and K Davis had previously started 40+ games for us .. yet they cam off the bench and the better players were 2 freshmen and a JC transfer. If a player is better than another they should start, period... regardless of last year or last week. Will it lead to some growing pains .. maybe .. but if it makes the team better in the long run then you should absolutely do it. Our ultimate goal is not to start the season strong, but to finish strong. You play the OOC schedule to get stronger for the postseason (would you rather beat Gonzaga the 2nd game of the year, or the 2nd game of the ncaa tourney?) And hopefully we get both. But competition for playing time and starting spots only makes the team better and helps bring in better recruits, especially if they know they have a chance to play if they earn it. |
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Post by pokinsky on Aug 4, 2010 10:46:50 GMT -8
While all the talk of who will start and play the most minutes at guard is encouraging and fun and realistic ... the unfortunate thing is there is no debate about the bigs at all. But who would you like to see emerge as the best big off the bench?
Even if Shelton is completely healthy I can't see him challenge White for the starting PF spot, but I could see him play 20-25 minutes at back up PF/C which keeps Carlwell and Cheriet on the bench based on their previous play and his fundamentals and energy is positive.
Have Carlwell or Cheriet developed a killer instinct and passion for the game? Carlwell is big and a vocal leader, but otherwise he's turnover prone, has bad hands and is slow to react on the floor. Cheriet has skills and height, but plays timid. I Shelton stays healthy neither of these guys plays more than 10 mins per game.
Alec Williams is the unknown wild card. Is he a SF or PF? What weight does he need to get down to before Fisher will play him? For the sake of the next few years I hope Williams earns more time than Carlwell or Cheriet this year.
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