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Post by Village Aztec on Jul 28, 2010 21:53:48 GMT -8
www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/28/fishers-big-recruiting-push-is-for-games-not/Well you guys want better home games in Basketball. That means we have to sell $30,000 in additional tickets. So does that require a sell out? I am in Nashville so I am not that up on how many extra seats we have in the beginning of the season. It looks to me that ticket prices will have to go up in the future. So even if we want to play less road games we can't. What a mess.
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Post by cvtower on Jul 28, 2010 23:02:45 GMT -8
Interested to know that Duke was willing to host....except that the 2 possible dates conflicting with the Cal road game and the conference opener. Maybe try again the following season for a matchup with the Blue Devils?
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Post by goaztecs on Jul 29, 2010 6:10:41 GMT -8
I know nobody likes this but why not open up at home vs UCSD again so at least we start the season with a home game and fans can come out and see the squad.
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Post by vision on Jul 29, 2010 8:03:14 GMT -8
I know nobody likes this but why not open up at home vs UCSD again so at least we start the season with a home game and fans can come out and see the squad. WE probably will end up doing that. But it affects our SOS and therefore RPI. We don't want that!
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Post by Fred Noonan on Jul 29, 2010 8:10:21 GMT -8
Interesting article on several different fronts. When the CBE "tournament" was announced many of us were confounded why we would get into that kind of strange format. I, for one, didn't realize we had lost out on another Vegas tournament and had to substitute in the CBE one. That certainly explains a lot in the sense of playing Gonzaga, going nowhere, etc. Also, interesting impact on playing Arizona, Arizona St., etc. A real domino effect. Coming late in the year--June--just compounds the problem for Fisher. Very insightful article. The Fred Noonan School of Navigation.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 29, 2010 10:43:08 GMT -8
A clue that we will be playing at Cal during the week between:
Sat Dec 4 - Wichita State Sat Dec 11 - USD
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Post by wakelaunch on Jul 29, 2010 10:57:47 GMT -8
It's too bad we pay less then a mid major. It just furthers the proof that we need to step it up. I hope football can make a little money this year but I just don't see it happening even if we win 6 games. We need to start averaging 9000 at home games especially being ranked so early which is when we have a tough time getting the band waggoners out there
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Post by azteccannon on Jul 29, 2010 11:07:12 GMT -8
Seems to me we need to make a Dance run. The risk to marquee programs losing to us is too high given extremes of our dismal NCAA track record and the potential of this year's squad. Make it to the Sweet Sixteen or final four and scheduling gets easier.
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 11:09:47 GMT -8
I know nobody likes this but why not open up at home vs UCSD again so at least we start the season with a home game and fans can come out and see the squad. I like it. It gives the fans a chance to see the team (as you said)....It gives the team a chance to play a live game before some tough games are played. It only makes sense.
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Post by hoobs on Jul 29, 2010 11:12:52 GMT -8
Playing UCSD is fine, as a pre-season exhibition.
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Post by monty on Jul 29, 2010 12:28:03 GMT -8
Playing UCSD is fine, as a pre-season exhibition. Exactly, I would imagine that will be our exhibition game and then we'll start the schedule the next week.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jul 29, 2010 13:19:34 GMT -8
This situation has really bummed me out. I am concerned that we may have to play more road games, against better teams, that Fisher would like (...and I'm referring to the 4 additional games yet to be scheduled). I fear that our record will suffer a bit and we'll be beat up a bit more heading into the conference season (which will also be tough). Plus, we may have less home games for us to attend (as a season ticket holder).
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Post by akalouie on Jul 29, 2010 15:17:20 GMT -8
The Athletic Department needs to invest $120,000 in Mens basketball and pay $30,000 more to opponents to get them to come to SDSU. This is potentially our best team ever, to have them play extra road games and risk "losses" that would prevent us from making the NCAA tournament and lose momentum as a program is "penny wise and pound foolish".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 15:45:16 GMT -8
Seems to me we need to make a Dance run. The risk to marquee programs losing to us is too high given extremes of our dismal NCAA track record and the potential of this year's squad. Make it to the Sweet Sixteen or final four and scheduling gets easier. Geeze, Louise! I KNEW there were reasons I liked this board besides hearing myself talk! That's the second great point somebody has made today! I mean, I've never heard anyone else say what you've said but it sure makes perfect sense to me. Or to put it another way, if we were to get to the proverbial next level or slide back down to where we were five years ago, there would probably be a lot more teams wanting to play us. Right now, however, we're exactly the kind of team nobody wants to schedule. P.S. - Please post more, like you used to.
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Post by Village Aztec on Jul 29, 2010 20:31:49 GMT -8
"The Athletic Department needs to invest $120,000 in Mens basketball and pay $30,000 more to opponents to get them to come to SDSU. This is potentially our best team ever, to have them play extra road games and risk "losses" that would prevent us from making the NCAA tournament and lose momentum as a program is "penny wise and pound foolish". "
HELLO
We cut 5 coaches and we may have to not recruit out of State and we need to put another $120,000 into basketball. Son you need to run for a political office.
So what sport do you want to take the money from? I think I said we need to sell basketball tickets. That was where we get the money. From Basketball fans. Were do you want to get the money from? If you say woman's programs it would match the crazyness of your your comment.
We are broke and have been broke for years. We get $15 million from the other side of the Campus. Would you like to go over and ask them for a $120,000 which they don't have either. We just lost 5,000 students who will not be pay student sports fees and our scholarships just went up $1 million dollars. So lets say we our budget went into the red $1.5 million just to match last years losses. I remember the post 2 years ago Webb needs to loosen up the purse strings.
We don't have any hidden money in the bank. We are just like Social Security. There is no Trust Fund and we can't pay off all our losses. We can't make the other side of the campus mad at us can we?
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Post by standiego on Jul 29, 2010 20:46:46 GMT -8
maybe we can get Boise State to come in for a preview of things to come the following year
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 29, 2010 21:08:28 GMT -8
"" HELLO We are broke and have been broke for years. We get $15 million from the other side of the Campus. Would you like to go over and ask them for a $120,000 which they don't have either. We just lost 5,000 students who will not be pay student sports fees and our scholarships just went up $1 million dollars. So lets say we our budget went into the red $1.5 million just to match last years losses. I remember the post 2 years ago Webb needs to loosen up the purse strings. We don't have any hidden money in the bank. We are just like Social Security. There is no Trust Fund and we can't pay off all our losses. We can't make the other side of the campus mad at us can we? Need money? I'm a microcosm of the current situation. I haven't invested in AAF for a few years now. Bottom line, I got tired of paying money to watch crap year after year, after year....I. E. the mens' football program, AAF's supposed prime sports revenue generator. (And frankly, I also got tired of those "gentle digs" from my UTE and Cougar friends so it was that much easier to turn my back when it came to spending dough on this pathetic football program). But as I've said on previous threads, this team wins at least six games and goes to a bowl, I'll open the "vault" and invest some serious dough. Probably even more the next year if the football program continues to move in the right direction. I may be the only sap with SOCAL and Aztec roots that would actually do this, but I'd like to think others would follow suit. Right or wrong, (as the last couple of months has confirmed), it's all about football. Then Reagan's "trickle down" theory kicks in... And if Hoke's team doesn't win at least six games? That's why God created casinos.
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Post by goaztecs on Jul 30, 2010 5:06:38 GMT -8
The Athletic Department needs to invest $120,000 in Mens basketball and pay $30,000 more to opponents to get them to come to SDSU. This is potentially our best team ever, to have them play extra road games and risk "losses" that would prevent us from making the NCAA tournament and lose momentum as a program is "penny wise and pound foolish". I think that is a good investment. The idea is that we will make the money back in the NCAA tourny.
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Post by monty on Jul 30, 2010 7:50:23 GMT -8
When this came up before I voiced this concern: was fisher attempting to schedule-up in years past? Was he building relationships, getting contracts signed, etc? It is somewhat disingenuous to schedule cream puffs when you're good, but want marquee games when you're going to be outstanding.
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Post by monty on Jul 30, 2010 8:01:51 GMT -8
"The Athletic Department needs to invest $120,000 in Mens basketball and pay $30,000 more to opponents to get them to come to SDSU. This is potentially our best team ever, to have them play extra road games and risk "losses" that would prevent us from making the NCAA tournament and lose momentum as a program is "penny wise and pound foolish". " HELLO We cut 5 coaches and we may have to not recruit out of State and we need to put another $120,000 into basketball. Son you need to run for a political office. So what sport do you want to take the money from? I think I said we need to sell basketball tickets. That was where we get the money. From Basketball fans. Were do you want to get the money from? If you say woman's programs it would match the crazyness of your your comment. We are broke and have been broke for years. We get $15 million from the other side of the Campus. Would you like to go over and ask them for a $120,000 which they don't have either. We just lost 5,000 students who will not be pay student sports fees and our scholarships just went up $1 million dollars. So lets say we our budget went into the red $1.5 million just to match last years losses. I remember the post 2 years ago Webb needs to loosen up the purse strings. We don't have any hidden money in the bank. We are just like Social Security. There is no Trust Fund and we can't pay off all our losses. We can't make the other side of the campus mad at us can we? Profs are staff are taking furloughs, classes and positions have been slashed. The Chair of one of the departments I was in explains that his job has become(besides teaching more classes since he's had his staff cut) being a fundraiser and reporting to the dean weekly on how much money has been raised. We expect academics to want to work in an environment that turns them into politicians going on the dinner circuit? And we expect that side of campus to throw more money at Athletics? Just as we expect marketing to do a better job when there is no money or staff to do it? The problem is the alumni that are holding onto the purse strings and the alums and community that aren't buying tickets. We bitch about students not coming out to the games, but their fees are keeping this program even close to afloat; imagine if weber didn't hammer through the fee increase, we'd be what, 4 or 5 (or more) million in the hole. We average what around 8k for bball, fill those extra 4k seats and then we can make an argument for more money to be spent on buying opponents.
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