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Post by Yoda on Jun 7, 2011 0:11:16 GMT -8
It is interesting that she was right. She wasn't even close to being right. Revere didn't set out to warn the British at all -- they caught him at a roadblock and questioned him under gunpoint. Revere overstated the strength of the American army because he didn't want the British to go to Lexington. It had nothing to do with protecting our arms and everything to do with protecting John Hancock and Sam Adams -- who were in Lexington. Trying to claim that she was correct, when even Faux News called her on it, makes her look even worse. Unbelievable spinning coming from the right in an effort to protect one of their own. Yoda out... . |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 7, 2011 11:00:00 GMT -8
Tell the entire story or don't bother with your crap. You liberals just can't stand it that this woman not even running is better informed than any of you. Are you nuts? Good question! I just think you ask the wrong person. If you think you are as smart as or as well informed as Palin, then you should have asked yourself.  |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 7, 2011 11:01:18 GMT -8
It is interesting that she was right. She wasn't even close to being right. Revere didn't set out to warn the British at all -- they caught him at a roadblock and questioned him under gunpoint. Revere overstated the strength of the American army because he didn't want the British to go to Lexington. It had nothing to do with protecting our arms and everything to do with protecting John Hancock and Sam Adams -- who were in Lexington. Trying to claim that she was correct, when even Faux News called her on it, makes her look even worse. Unbelievable spinning coming from the right in an effort to protect one of their own. Yoda out... . Guess it depends on whose source you believe. |
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Post by Yoda on Jun 7, 2011 11:55:44 GMT -8
Guess it depends on whose source you believe. I suppose. Funny thing is that Palin's supporters rewrote the Paul Revere page at Wikipedia to change history to match Palin's version of it. Wikipedia had to go back to the pre-Palin updates and lock it. So Steven Colbert is urging viewers to modify "bells" to include a reference to the fact that Revere carried bells on his famous ride. Go Colbert! Yoda out... . |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 7, 2011 12:01:29 GMT -8
Wikipedia? Come on now. I rarely criticize a source, but Wikipedia is based on who ever changed it last. Even if they lock it, it is still whatever someone thought they knew at the time.
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Post by davdesid on Jun 7, 2011 12:35:08 GMT -8
Written by Revere when he was an old man and nobody knows whether it was an accurate account. Either way, there is nothing in the historical account, or that stupid poem, to suggest he rang bells or fired warning shoots at British troops. He did apparently tell the Brits who captured him that the colonists were going to fight, but I'm not sure that was information he should have given them. Dawes and Prescott did more than he did and it's likely there were upwards of 40 riders since all three were warning everyone they met that the Brits were on the march. Yet again Dave, your only contribution is the offering of right-wing links. =Bob Maybe you'll write a letter to this "right-wing" site, and explain their errors: latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-says-paul-revere-warned-the-british.htmlAnd of course, since kooks like Saul Cornell on moonbat sites like alternet tell us we cannot understand words written in the 18th Century, everyone is entitled to interpret Revere's words any way they want. What's really amusing is the pathological Palin hate coming from the moonbats. She. drives. you. CRAYZZEE. |
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Post by Yoda on Jun 7, 2011 12:44:23 GMT -8
Wikipedia? Come on now. I rarely criticize a source, but Wikipedia is based on who ever changed it last. Even if they lock it, it is still whatever someone thought they knew at the time. I didn't say that it was correct before -- just that I thought it was funny that Palin supporters quickly tried to hijack the site and the history that it previously reported. Wiki can be very accurate or very inaccurate -- depending upon how many visitors it gets, how well known the information is and on how important it is to those with an agenda to have it read a particular way. Yoda out... . |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 7, 2011 15:42:51 GMT -8
Wikipedia? Come on now. I rarely criticize a source, but Wikipedia is based on who ever changed it last. Even if they lock it, it is still whatever someone thought they knew at the time. I didn't say that it was correct before -- just that I thought it was funny that Palin supporters quickly tried to hijack the site and the history that it previously reported. Wiki can be very accurate or very inaccurate -- depending upon how many visitors it gets, how well known the information is and on how important it is to those with an agenda to have it read a particular way. Yoda out... . Look at Wiki from time to time, but never rely on it without verification. I agree that it is funny how it is used. You would be wise to use the same kind of judgment when looking at SNOPES when politics is the subject. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 7, 2011 15:59:28 GMT -8
Written by Revere when he was an old man and nobody knows whether it was an accurate account. Either way, there is nothing in the historical account, or that stupid poem, to suggest he rang bells or fired warning shoots at British troops. He did apparently tell the Brits who captured him that the colonists were going to fight, but I'm not sure that was information he should have given them. Dawes and Prescott did more than he did and it's likely there were upwards of 40 riders since all three were warning everyone they met that the Brits were on the march. Yet again Dave, your only contribution is the offering of right-wing links. =Bob Maybe you'll write a letter to this "right-wing" site, and explain their errors: latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-says-paul-revere-warned-the-british.htmlAnd of course, since kooks like Saul Cornell on moonbat sites like alternet tell us we cannot understand words written in the 18th Century, everyone is entitled to interpret Revere's words any way they want. What's really amusing is the pathological Palin hate coming from the moonbats. She. drives. you. CRAYZZEE. Doesn't drive me anything. I just find her incredibly uninformed. As for your source, you picked a former Laura Bush press aide who is apparently also a birther and a well known Palin apologist. In short, he's the Times' resident token wing nut. But it's still nonsense. She claimed one of the purposes of Revere's ride was to warn the Brits not to come for the militia's guns. His recollection says no such thing. She claims he was ringing bells and firing warning shots, both of which are nonsense. As Yoda points out, Revere claimed to have warned the Brits not to march after he was captured. There is nothing to suggest his ride was anything more than warning the militia they were coming by sea to march on Concord and Lexington. What is amazing is how many people will attempt to defend every stupid statement she makes. Jeez, if a Democrat said something that stupid I certainly wouldn't attempt to rewrite history to defend him or her. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 7, 2011 16:03:05 GMT -8
Wikipedia? Come on now. I rarely criticize a source, but Wikipedia is based on who ever changed it last. Even if they lock it, it is still whatever someone thought they knew at the time. Usually with a fair number of citations. Wikipedia only had 2,000 hits a day on its Revere page before this nonsense started so I seriously doubt anyone was writing uninformed statements about Revere. But either way, find me any reputable historical source that states he started the ride looking to warn the Brits and the militia and was ringing a bell and firing warning shots while doing so. Warning shots would have gotten him killed. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 7, 2011 16:05:39 GMT -8
It is interesting that she was right. She wasn't even close to being right. Revere didn't set out to warn the British at all -- they caught him at a roadblock and questioned him under gunpoint. Revere overstated the strength of the American army because he didn't want the British to go to Lexington. It had nothing to do with protecting our arms and everything to do with protecting John Hancock and Sam Adams -- who were in Lexington. Trying to claim that she was correct, when even Faux News called her on it, makes her look even worse. Unbelievable spinning coming from the right in an effort to protect one of their own. Yoda out... . Actually they were marching because the militia had stored a fair number of arms at those places as well as going after Hancock and Adams. The rest of the above I completely agree with. =Bob |
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Post by davdesid on Jun 7, 2011 16:09:48 GMT -8
Maybe you'll write a letter to this "right-wing" site, and explain their errors: latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-says-paul-revere-warned-the-british.htmlAnd of course, since kooks like Saul Cornell on moonbat sites like alternet tell us we cannot understand words written in the 18th Century, everyone is entitled to interpret Revere's words any way they want. What's really amusing is the pathological Palin hate coming from the moonbats. She. drives. you. CRAYZZEE. Doesn't drive me anything. I just find her incredibly uninformed. As for your source, you picked a former Laura Bush press aide who is apparently also a birther and a well known Palin apologist. In short, he's the Times' resident token wing nut. But it's still nonsense. She claimed one of the purposes of Revere's ride was to warn the Brits not to come for the militia's guns. His recollection says no such thing. She claims he was ringing bells and firing warning shots, both of which are nonsense. As Yoda points out, Revere claimed to have warned the Brits not to march after he was captured. There is nothing to suggest his ride was anything more than warning the militia they were coming by sea to march on Concord and Lexington. What is amazing is how many people will attempt to defend every stupid statement she makes. Jeez, if a Democrat said something that stupid I certainly wouldn't attempt to rewrite history to defend him or her. =Bob Well, =Perfesser, when you are in a hole, it's a good idea to stop digging. But you never learned that when you got your "Mastur's", I guess. This account in "Paul Revere's Ride" by David Hackett Fischer (Oxford University Press 1994), may be of interest to Think Progress and all the others laughing because they purport to be so much better informed than Palin: "A townsman remembered that 'repeated gunshots, the beating of drums and the ringing of bells filled the air.'.... Along the North Shore of Massachusetts, church bells began to toll and the heavy beat of drums could be heard for many miles in the night air." It's available on Google Books. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 7, 2011 16:26:45 GMT -8
Doesn't drive me anything. I just find her incredibly uninformed. As for your source, you picked a former Laura Bush press aide who is apparently also a birther and a well known Palin apologist. In short, he's the Times' resident token wing nut. But it's still nonsense. She claimed one of the purposes of Revere's ride was to warn the Brits not to come for the militia's guns. His recollection says no such thing. She claims he was ringing bells and firing warning shots, both of which are nonsense. As Yoda points out, Revere claimed to have warned the Brits not to march after he was captured. There is nothing to suggest his ride was anything more than warning the militia they were coming by sea to march on Concord and Lexington. What is amazing is how many people will attempt to defend every stupid statement she makes. Jeez, if a Democrat said something that stupid I certainly wouldn't attempt to rewrite history to defend him or her. =Bob Well, =Perfesser, when you are in a hole, it's a good idea to stop digging. But you never learned that when you got your "Mastur's", I guess. This account in "Paul Revere's Ride" by David Hackett Fischer (Oxford University Press 1994), may be of interest to Think Progress and all the others laughing because they purport to be so much better informed than Palin: "A townsman remembered that 'repeated gunshots, the beating of drums and the ringing of bells filled the air.'.... Along the North Shore of Massachusetts, church bells began to toll and the heavy beat of drums could be heard for many miles in the night air." It's available on Google Books. Yup; none of it done by Paul Revere. You're playing a disingenuous game by attempting to toss in historical facts that I'm well aware of but have nothing at all to do with Palin's statement which was, just to remind you: "He who warned uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."And that's really the problem. She's mixing up a lot of what happened by stating that it was Revere doing it. If a Democrat had said the same nonsense, you'd be all over him or her, so your argument is really nothing more than a troll, just as Pooh's are. But the problem with that is by trying to troll, you're associating yourself with her uninformed view of history and that makes you appear just as uninformed. This is from the Revere House non-profit: www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/real.html=Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 7, 2011 16:48:25 GMT -8
Looks like we have conflicting accounts here. Just how important is this? Palin knew of the event. That is much more than most of you people before the dust up over it.
Palin is much better informed than any of us on this board and pretending to be knowledgeable after the fact is pretty pathetic. Since we are all able to "google up" information to support our position, how about give this bit of baloney a rest?
=Bob is like a dog trying to worry a bone after he finally finds it.
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Post by davdesid on Jun 7, 2011 16:52:41 GMT -8
Looks like we have conflicting accounts here. Just how important is this? Palin knew of the event. That is much more than most of you people before the dust up over it. Palin is much better informed than any of us on this board and pretending to be knowledgeable after the fact is pretty pathetic. Since we are all able to "google up" information to support our position, how about give this bit of baloney a rest? =Bob is like a dog trying to worry a bone after he finally finds it. Bottom line is she pwned them just like she did with the "Party like it's 1773" remark. They go CRAZZEEE. You just have to love it. She plays these morons like a violin. |
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Post by azdick on Jun 8, 2011 10:29:12 GMT -8
I love Sarah Palin. She lends a formidible voice to the great right wing intelligencia. Can't wait to read her e-mails.
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Post by aztec70 on Jun 8, 2011 11:31:08 GMT -8
Looks like we have conflicting accounts here. Just how important is this? Palin knew of the event. That is much more than most of you people before the dust up over it. Palin is much better informed than any of us on this board and pretending to be knowledgeable after the fact is pretty pathetic. Since we are all able to "google up" information to support our position, how about give this bit of baloney a rest? =Bob is like a dog trying to worry a bone after he finally finds it. Palin is better infromed than any of us? I beg your pardon, Sir. We are Aztecs, she is a Vandal. Enough said, and point and match to SDSU.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 12:05:26 GMT -8
Sorry, watch the interview. She says he rode to warn the British. That was not the reason for Revere's ride. Dammit, 70, stop confusing things with the facts! |
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Post by davdesid on Jun 8, 2011 12:15:14 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 8, 2011 12:38:33 GMT -8
Looks like we have conflicting accounts here. Just how important is this? Palin knew of the event. That is much more than most of you people before the dust up over it. Palin is much better informed than any of us on this board and pretending to be knowledgeable after the fact is pretty pathetic. Since we are all able to "google up" information to support our position, how about give this bit of baloney a rest? =Bob is like a dog trying to worry a bone after he finally finds it. Palin is better infromed than any of us? I beg your pardon, Sir. We are Aztecs, she is a Vandal. Enough said, and point and match to SDSU. We were exposed to a much better education, it just must be that more of hers "took". |
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