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Post by 78aztec82 on May 13, 2011 9:17:40 GMT -8
;D You are welcome to your opinion that rap music is stupid and not deep. Actually, a lot of rap music is deep in values and awareness that attempt to portray conditions familiar to the artist that he or she wants made public. Some artists are misogynistic, foul, vile. The same could be said about some in rock and roll. I fault no genre at all, it is the individual artist that rises and falls in my personal observation about what they want to say. Even "Common" is free to write, sing and market his music without a problem from me. It is putting him on a pedestal for a rare invite to the White House, which I think is nearly sacred, that should be second-guessed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 9:43:54 GMT -8
I think it's awesome. Common is a phenomenal artist and poet.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:51:45 GMT -8
I think it's awesome. Common is a phenomenal artist and poet. Perhaps you can provide us with some of his awesomeness. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:56:11 GMT -8
Oh wait! Here's some mo'
Ah keep on, chcka chcka chcka (Repeat 6x)
Mo'f****r move back, I pursue rap at the pace of a New Jack
Miscellaneous numbers and shoes stack grooves
Rap I deliver for the hungry and underprivileged
Something different from these hollow and grunting niggas
This is business strictly, step to my business is risky
'Specially when you as bitch as Missy
Back to back LP's that sound the same, I surround the game
With a four-pounded brainstorm
To make niggas dance in the rain, scared to take a chance in the game
Used to breakdance, it's a shame
What money do to a nigga brain
If he lose his soul what did a nigga gain?
Man! Dat $#!+ iz deep.
I've decided I too am going to pursue rap at the pace of a New Jack. Cuz dat's how I rollz.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:59:40 GMT -8
Here's some more awsomeness. I wonder if Barry reads this one to his girls at bedtime Right now I’m off the wine (wine)
we can take our time (time)
So much I want to punch feel the bump when we grind
My uh in is ya body
My uh is in ya mind
Check my dictionary
That ass is so defined
It slippery when its wet girl
I can read the signs
I knocked and I knocked (uh) can I come inside
I knocked and I knocked girl can I come inside
I feel like its home when I’m in between ya thighs
It’s the joy, and the pain, and the bites and the brain
What make it feel so good
That type of stuff u cant explain
I do what I do to do to make it rain
U got the invite tonight
And I’m so glad ya came
Cuz you the type of dame to be game and yell
Mic check like the way I begin my show
[ From: www.elyrics.net/read/c/common-lyrics/punch-drunk-love-lyrics.html ]
Girl I come from chi-ca-so in I go
Turn around its about to be a TKOwhoever wrote this is a true artist yo. |
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Post by uwaztec on May 13, 2011 13:50:59 GMT -8
Here's some more awsomeness. I wonder if Barry reads this one to his girls at bedtime Right now I’m off the wine (wine)
we can take our time (time)
So much I want to punch feel the bump when we grind
My uh in is ya body
My uh is in ya mind
Check my dictionary
That ass is so defined
It slippery when its wet girl
I can read the signs
I knocked and I knocked (uh) can I come inside
I knocked and I knocked girl can I come inside
I feel like its home when I’m in between ya thighs
It’s the joy, and the pain, and the bites and the brain
What make it feel so good
That type of stuff u cant explain
I do what I do to do to make it rain
U got the invite tonight
And I’m so glad ya came
Cuz you the type of dame to be game and yell
Mic check like the way I begin my show
[ From: www.elyrics.net/read/c/common-lyrics/punch-drunk-love-lyrics.html ]
Girl I come from chi-ca-so in I go
Turn around its about to be a TKOwhoever wrote this is a true artist yo. Well, I hate Rap as much as anybody...however. I hope you didn't let your kids hear the Stones sing "black girls just like to get fu*cked all night, I just don't have that much jam" or Zep's "Lemon Song"..... "till the juice runs down my leg"....just sayin. |
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Post by mayham81 on May 13, 2011 14:20:40 GMT -8
;D You are welcome to your opinion that rap music is stupid and not deep. Actually, a lot of rap music is deep in values and awareness that attempt to portray conditions familiar to the artist that he or she wants made public. Some artists are misogynistic, foul, vile. The same could be said about some in rock and roll. I fault no genre at all, it is the individual artist that rises and falls in my personal observation about what they want to say. Even "Common" is free to write, sing and market his music without a problem from me. It is putting him on a pedestal for a rare invite to the White House, which I think is nearly sacred, that should be second-guessed. My apologies, my comment was meant for afan. I think at this point someone needs to go through every lyricist that's been to the white house and analyze every song they ever wrote. |
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Post by uwaztec on May 13, 2011 14:23:06 GMT -8
Come on...at least some of the old white guys on here (including myself) have to admit it's a cultural thing as well. Bill O'Reilly loves the Doors... as do many of us. Well, Morrison pulled his di*k out on stage in Miami. What would happen if Common pulled his stuff out on stage??
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 13, 2011 16:30:14 GMT -8
Come on...at least some of the old white guys on here (including myself) have to admit it's a cultural thing as well. Bill O'Reilly loves the Doors... as do many of us. Well, Morrison pulled his di*k out on stage in Miami. What would happen if Common pulled his stuff out on stage?? He sang "father, I want to kill you; mother, I want to fuuuuck you" when his parents were in the audience (This Is The End). This I think is interesting and what may set him apart from gangsta rappers: Miscellaneous numbers and shoes stack grooves
Rap I deliver for the hungry and underprivileged
Something different from these hollow and grunting niggas
This is business strictly, step to my business is riskyI recognize that most on here haven't studied poetry (and no, I don't believe it in anyway approaches great or even good poetry), but the message he's sending should be obvious. =Bob |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 14, 2011 12:28:52 GMT -8
Come on...at least some of the old white guys on here (including myself) have to admit it's a cultural thing as well. Bill O'Reilly loves the Doors... as do many of us. Well, Morrison pulled his di*k out on stage in Miami. What would happen if Common pulled his stuff out on stage?? He sang "father, I want to kill you; mother, I want to fuuuuck you" when his parents were in the audience (This Is The End). This I think is interesting and what may set him apart from gangsta rappers: Miscellaneous numbers and shoes stack grooves
Rap I deliver for the hungry and underprivileged
Something different from these hollow and grunting niggas
This is business strictly, step to my business is riskyI recognize that most on here haven't studied poetry (and no, I don't believe it in anyway approaches great or even good poetry), but the message he's sending should be obvious. =Bob I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. |
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Post by aztecwin on May 14, 2011 12:32:11 GMT -8
He sang "father, I want to kill you; mother, I want to fuuuuck you" when his parents were in the audience (This Is The End). This I think is interesting and what may set him apart from gangsta rappers: Miscellaneous numbers and shoes stack grooves
Rap I deliver for the hungry and underprivileged
Something different from these hollow and grunting niggas
This is business strictly, step to my business is riskyI recognize that most on here haven't studied poetry (and no, I don't believe it in anyway approaches great or even good poetry), but the message he's sending should be obvious. =Bob I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. What does Morrison have to do with this issue at all? The art of trying to jusify one bad act by pointing to another just does not fly. |
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Post by davdesid on May 14, 2011 13:58:59 GMT -8
He sang "father, I want to kill you; mother, I want to fuuuuck you" when his parents were in the audience (This Is The End). This I think is interesting and what may set him apart from gangsta rappers: Miscellaneous numbers and shoes stack grooves
Rap I deliver for the hungry and underprivileged
Something different from these hollow and grunting niggas
This is business strictly, step to my business is riskyI recognize that most on here haven't studied poetry (and no, I don't believe it in anyway approaches great or even good poetry), but the message he's sending should be obvious. =Bob I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. If the stupid bastard had lived long enough, he probably would have been invited by Billy Bent-Pecker. Billy liked to pull out his d*ck and wave it in womens' faces. Too bad the sorry POS died in 1971... he could have been a real hero to the aging pot-smoking scum who are still hanging around. Billy and Jim. Waving their d*cks at the camera during a Medal of Freedom ceremony. Ah, what could have been....  |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 14:38:20 GMT -8
I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. Same here. Still, I tend to view this as does O'Reilly. Which is to say, Obama himself probably has no idea what sorts of things this guy Commoner says and once the guy was invited, it would have been difficult to disinvite him. Also this. Are you aware that Tricia Nixon invited the Turtles to the White House back in the day? Rumor has it - and my older son heard it straight from the mouth of the horse (i.e., Mark Volman of the Turtles) that it's true - that the Turtles' career hit the skids soon thereafter because Tricky Dick got pissed because Volman got trashed and tried to hit on Tricia. Word is Volman was pretty crass and Nixon called some friends in the music industry to put the kibosh on the Turtles moving up from tiny White Whale records to Capitol and the like. Volman and Howard Kaylan thereafter became very cynical, doing tunes like Elenore ("Elenore, gee I think you're swell and you really do me well . . ."), eventually joining Frank Zappa's band and morphing into Flo and Eddie. Is Commoner a step beyond what the Turtles were? You bet. However, my point is Nixon allowed Tricia to invite the Turtles and they proved to be an embarrassment to him as well. |
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Post by uwaztec on May 14, 2011 15:22:47 GMT -8
He sang "father, I want to kill you; mother, I want to fuuuuck you" when his parents were in the audience (This Is The End). This I think is interesting and what may set him apart from gangsta rappers: Miscellaneous numbers and shoes stack grooves
Rap I deliver for the hungry and underprivileged
Something different from these hollow and grunting niggas
This is business strictly, step to my business is riskyI recognize that most on here haven't studied poetry (and no, I don't believe it in anyway approaches great or even good poetry), but the message he's sending should be obvious. =Bob I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. Point well taken Stu. I think it would have been 10x safer to invite Common to the White House than Morrison (assuming same era and behavior). Morrison was so messed up that when I saw the movie "The Doors" the audience actually cheered when he died! But I think my point also stands that if you like the music (the Doors) you will overlook the behavior. A certain genre likes the music / rap of Common.... so same thing. I was more addressing the points of AFAN who listed risque lyrics as a determining factor. Agree on the cop issue. Although the relationship between the police and certain segments of the public are different. Case in point, I have been stopped 4 times in my 57 years, and only for moving violations. I have a friend who is black, 6'7" and 300 lbs...and drives a nice car. He works for the City of San Diego and has no record. He estimates he has been stopped over 30 times in just 20 years of driving. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 14, 2011 20:05:11 GMT -8
Agree about the music aspect and I don't criticize them for their art, no matter how much I may personally not like it. I hope I was clear in my earlier note. As the great American, err Brit Austin "Danger" Powers said, "Freedom baby, it's groovy...." I am all about it. I just think the White House invite is something to be protected and given out thoughtfully and carefully (not talking about the personal invites to the private quarters but the public invites.
Y'all take care as we found some "Common" (PI) ground!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 20:16:11 GMT -8
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 15, 2011 15:26:28 GMT -8
I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. What does Morrison have to do with this issue at all? The art of trying to jusify one bad act by pointing to another just does not fly. UW brought him up, I responded to that. Why does everything always have to a direct response to your bullshiit trolls? As for trying to justify one bad act by bringing up another, I'd suggest you discuss that with Dave. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 15, 2011 15:36:14 GMT -8
I must have missed Morrison's invite to the White House. Same here. Still, I tend to view this as does O'Reilly. Which is to say, Obama himself probably has no idea what sorts of things this guy Commoner says and once the guy was invited, it would have been difficult to disinvite him. Also this. Are you aware that Tricia Nixon invited the Turtles to the White House back in the day? Tricia Nixon invited Grace Slick to the White House. From Wikipedia: Slick and Tricia Nixon, former President Richard Nixon's daughter, are alumnae of Finch College. Grace was invited to a tea party for the alumnae at the White House in 1969. She invited the political activist Abbie Hoffman to be her escort and planned to spike President Richard Nixon's tea with 600 micrograms of LSD. The plan was thwarted when they were prevented from entering after being recognized by White House security personnel, as Slick had been placed on an FBI blacklist.[16]BTW, 600 mics of acid is seriously nasty. 75-100 mics is close to the usual dosage back in the day. God only knows who Tricky Dicky would have bombed if they'd managed to feed him that. =Bob |
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Post by davdesid on May 15, 2011 15:36:29 GMT -8
What does Morrison have to do with this issue at all? The art of trying to jusify one bad act by pointing to another just does not fly. UW brought him up, I responded to that. Why does everything always have to a direct response to your bullshiit trolls? As for trying to justify one bad act by bringing up another, I'd suggest you discuss that with Dave. =Bob Look in a mirror for that discussion. No one is trying to "justify" anything. You are the one throwing stones from inside the "glass house". |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 15, 2011 15:40:09 GMT -8
Agree about the music aspect and I don't criticize them for their art, no matter how much I may personally not like it. Um, I recognize that you're 10 years younger than me, but how can you dislike the Doors? Morrison was really not much of anything as a poet, no matter how much the freaks would like to think he was, but the Doors music was pretty damn decent. =Bob |
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