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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 6, 2011 16:48:59 GMT -8
I guess you don't know what sarcasm is. But thank you for answering your own question...you didn't hear ANYTHING from the Seals. I do agree though, Al-Qaida confirming his death does add more credibility to it, but then again, those idiots would lie too to further their agenda against America. Give it up! This is one of the rare times that =Bob is right. The mission was accomplished. If you want to find an issue, it is in the incompetent manner the after event has been handled. Thank you for the support. However, I suspect Ms. Diddlybomp will give it up because she's totally brain dead. As near as I can tell, she's a brain dead cheer leader who is asking people to vote for her on some stupid social network site. =Bob
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 6, 2011 18:31:40 GMT -8
No need for pictures, Al-Qaida has confirmed Bin Laden is Dead. Close the book on this one! Al-Qaida confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and vowed revenge, saying Friday that Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness." The statement was the first by the terror network since its leader was slain in a U.S. commando raid against his Pakistani hideout. Al Qaida isn't some group I go to first to find the truth... (he's dead, no doubt in my mind but using AQ as a source for truth is...)
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Post by jenaztec1 on May 6, 2011 20:34:43 GMT -8
Promise? Because I feel stupider after reading every one of your replies Mr. Poopypants. Again, YOU have no idea if the Seals even said that to the President! Again, you're just believing what you've been told. I really dont give a crap if it happened or not, but your reasoning for believing something youre told from the President is just pathetic. "He told me so, so I believe him!"
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Post by aztecwin on May 7, 2011 6:08:20 GMT -8
Promise? Because I feel stupider after reading every one of your replies Mr. Poopypants. Again, YOU have no idea if the Seals even said that to the President! Again, you're just believing what you've been told. I really dont give a crap if it happened or not, but your reasoning for believing something youre told from the President is just pathetic. "He told me so, so I believe him!" Mr. Poopypants? If that is all that is needed to keep him still, the entire board will start using it! Mr. Poopypants, nice fitting little ring to it!
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Post by Yoda on May 8, 2011 9:29:37 GMT -8
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 8, 2011 10:09:17 GMT -8
My personal view is that they should be viewed, privately by selected members of the Pentagon media pool, perhaps the WH pool as well, and any congressperson who asks. That should be sufficient. No copies, just a physical view. They can report whatever they want about what they saw. Easy.
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Post by aztecwin on May 8, 2011 12:31:36 GMT -8
My personal view is that they should be viewed, privately by selected members of the Pentagon media pool, perhaps the WH pool as well, and any congressperson who asks. That should be sufficient. No copies, just a physical view. They can report whatever they want about what they saw. Easy. Now, that is reasonable. How do we know that the pictures already out there are fake? I posted a link and then asked the question a couple times.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 8, 2011 13:20:04 GMT -8
No need for pictures, Al-Qaida has confirmed Bin Laden is Dead. Close the book on this one! Al-Qaida confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and vowed revenge, saying Friday that Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness." The statement was the first by the terror network since its leader was slain in a U.S. commando raid against his Pakistani hideout. Al Qaida isn't some group I go to first to find the truth... (he's dead, no doubt in my mind but using AQ as a source for truth is...) Neither would I. But in this case, if he wasn't dead, they'd have had a huge push showing it wasn't true. =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 8, 2011 13:20:57 GMT -8
Promise? Because I feel stupider after reading every one of your replies Mr. Poopypants. Again, YOU have no idea if the Seals even said that to the President! Again, you're just believing what you've been told. I really dont give a crap if it happened or not, but your reasoning for believing something youre told from the President is just pathetic. "He told me so, so I believe him!" Mr. Poopypants? If that is all that is needed to keep him still, the entire board will start using it! Mr. Poopypants, nice fitting little ring to it! It's not original. =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 8, 2011 13:23:45 GMT -8
My personal view is that they should be viewed, privately by selected members of the Pentagon media pool, perhaps the WH pool as well, and any congressperson who asks. That should be sufficient. No copies, just a physical view. They can report whatever they want about what they saw. Easy. Now, that is reasonable. How do we know that the pictures already out there are fake? I posted a link and then asked the question a couple times. www.euronews.net/2011/05/02/dead-bin-laden-photo-is-a-fake/=Bob
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 8, 2011 20:07:43 GMT -8
Al Qaida isn't some group I go to first to find the truth... (he's dead, no doubt in my mind but using AQ as a source for truth is...) Neither would I. But in this case, if he wasn't dead, they'd have had a huge push showing it wasn't true. =Bob Not true whatsoever. AQ will say many things, their Info Campaign at times has no peer. They will say anything to build some form of public or government opinion, the truth is irrelevant. Too many people will take it at face value and never go back later to check the veracity of the statement, resulting in a lingering public opinion of one form or another. Exactly their aim. They get that, our voters oftentimes do not.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 9, 2011 15:34:29 GMT -8
Neither would I. But in this case, if he wasn't dead, they'd have had a huge push showing it wasn't true. =Bob Not true whatsoever. AQ will say many things, their Info Campaign at times has no peer. They will say anything to build some form of public or government opinion, the truth is irrelevant. Too many people will take it at face value and never go back later to check the veracity of the statement, resulting in a lingering public opinion of one form or another. Exactly their aim. They get that, our voters oftentimes do not. Stu, I'm well aware of the uses of propaganda and disinformation campaigns, but again, in this instance, if it were untrue they'd have used it to totally discredit Obama and this country. Unless you are of a like mind with Jen and think that Obama might be making it up and AQ simply confirmed his death to further conceal him, there would be nothing to be gained by the confirmation. I'm not discussing AQ in general, just in this specific case. =Bob
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Post by aztec79 on May 9, 2011 19:50:50 GMT -8
The photos would only reveal that the head shot was a full 2 millimeters off, somewhat of an embarassment for the members of ST6 who pride themselves on precision shooting...
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 9, 2011 20:46:50 GMT -8
Not true whatsoever. AQ will say many things, their Info Campaign at times has no peer. They will say anything to build some form of public or government opinion, the truth is irrelevant. Too many people will take it at face value and never go back later to check the veracity of the statement, resulting in a lingering public opinion of one form or another. Exactly their aim. They get that, our voters oftentimes do not. Stu, I'm well aware of the uses of propaganda and disinformation campaigns, but again, in this instance, if it were untrue they'd have used it to totally discredit Obama and this country. Unless you are of a like mind with Jen and think that Obama might be making it up and AQ simply confirmed his death to further conceal him, there would be nothing to be gained by the confirmation. I'm not discussing AQ in general, just in this specific case. =Bob They don't act like us, they don't think like us, you have to get your mind around that. You can never take what they say at face value or from a western POV. About part two of your para, how does your mind go off in so many odd directions? I don't get the non sequitur / red herring trips you take...I've made my point about the death, and about who should be given the credit for it. I've been clear, you've even commented on my responses. No need to obfuscate the point to deflect from your lack of understanding about the original point about AQ and this instance.
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Post by markyc on May 9, 2011 21:04:43 GMT -8
Stu, I'm well aware of the uses of propaganda and disinformation campaigns, but again, in this instance, if it were untrue they'd have used it to totally discredit Obama and this country. Unless you are of a like mind with Jen and think that Obama might be making it up and AQ simply confirmed his death to further conceal him, there would be nothing to be gained by the confirmation. I'm not discussing AQ in general, just in this specific case. =Bob They don't act like us, they don't think like us, you have to get your mind around that. You can never take what they say at face value or from a western POV. About part two of your para, how does your mind go off in so many odd directions? I don't get the non sequitur / red herring trips you take...I've made my point about the death, and about who should be given the credit for it. I've been clear, you've even commented on my responses. No need to obfuscate the point to deflect from your lack of understanding about the original point about AQ and this instance. Bob's correct, and there was no obfuscation going on, he was pretty clear.
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 10, 2011 9:08:02 GMT -8
They don't act like us, they don't think like us, you have to get your mind around that. You can never take what they say at face value or from a western POV. About part two of your para, how does your mind go off in so many odd directions? I don't get the non sequitur / red herring trips you take...I've made my point about the death, and about who should be given the credit for it. I've been clear, you've even commented on my responses. No need to obfuscate the point to deflect from your lack of understanding about the original point about AQ and this instance. Bob's correct, and there was no obfuscation going on, he was pretty clear. Obfuscation? Huh? You aren't following the conversation, clearly. Still, again, -bob went off on a typical red non sequitur herring tangent. I was talking about Al Queda, he chose to add a bunch of crap that he knew I didn't say or imply. Trust me, I think I may know a little about AQ, whereas -bob trys to mirror-image from a position of unclued. Weigh in, please, I'm curious...
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 10, 2011 11:19:51 GMT -8
Bob's correct, and there was no obfuscation going on, he was pretty clear. Obfuscation? Huh? You aren't following the conversation, clearly. Still, again, -bob went off on a typical red non sequitur herring tangent. I was talking about Al Queda, he chose to add a bunch of crap that he knew I didn't say or imply. Trust me, I think I may know a little about AQ, whereas -bob trys to mirror-image from a position of unclued. Weigh in, please, I'm curious... No I didn't. I was pointing out that they would have nothing to gain by saying he's dead. The only reason they would say that if he wasn't would be if he were alive and they wanted to cover his tracks. But if that were the case, Obama would be lying and the only people who believe that are the conspiracy freaks who are, in fact, paranoid. I simply don't know why you're even arguing the point given that you undoubtedly believe the Seals. If he is dead, which we know he is, and AQ has confirmed it, why are you arguing that we can't believe what they said? There is no logic to your argument. =Bob
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 10, 2011 11:24:56 GMT -8
Obfuscation? Huh? You aren't following the conversation, clearly. Still, again, -bob went off on a typical red non sequitur herring tangent. I was talking about Al Queda, he chose to add a bunch of crap that he knew I didn't say or imply. Trust me, I think I may know a little about AQ, whereas -bob trys to mirror-image from a position of unclued. Weigh in, please, I'm curious... No I didn't. I was pointing out that they would have nothing to gain by saying he's dead. The only reason they would say that if he wasn't would be if he were alive and they wanted to cover his tracks. But if that were the case, Obama would be lying and the only people who believe that are the conspiracy freaks who are, in fact, paranoid. I simply don't know why you're even arguing the point given that you undoubtedly believe the Seals. If he is dead, which we know he is, and AQ has confirmed it, why are you arguing that we can't believe what they said? There is no logic to your argument. =Bob I merely took issue with the comment that even AQ confirmed it. I merely said that their public pronouncements aren't source for fact but calculated comments that have little bearing in reality. AQ isn't a source for accurate information. You took it and ran with it and never thought to stop and understand what I said, instead heading out on a typical tangent.
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Post by davdesid on May 10, 2011 14:03:13 GMT -8
Bob's correct, and there was no obfuscation going on, he was pretty clear. Obfuscation? Huh? You aren't following the conversation, clearly. Still, again, -bob went off on a typical red non sequitur herring tangent. I was talking about Al Queda, he chose to add a bunch of crap that he knew I didn't say or imply. Trust me, I think I may know a little about AQ, whereas -bob trys to mirror-image from a position of unclued. Weigh in, please, I'm curious... Stu, I think snarky marky must be a high school sophomore. He hasn't a clue. He'd probably argue with someone posting from in theater. juvenis magister stultorum(youth is the teacher of fools)
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 11, 2011 17:38:06 GMT -8
No I didn't. I was pointing out that they would have nothing to gain by saying he's dead. The only reason they would say that if he wasn't would be if he were alive and they wanted to cover his tracks. But if that were the case, Obama would be lying and the only people who believe that are the conspiracy freaks who are, in fact, paranoid. I simply don't know why you're even arguing the point given that you undoubtedly believe the Seals. If he is dead, which we know he is, and AQ has confirmed it, why are you arguing that we can't believe what they said? There is no logic to your argument. =Bob I merely took issue with the comment that even AQ confirmed it. I merely said that their public pronouncements aren't source for fact but calculated comments that have little bearing in reality. AQ isn't a source for accurate information. You took it and ran with it and never thought to stop and understand what I said, instead heading out on a typical tangent. No I didn't. Keep in mind that you weighed in on an argument between me and the cheerleader. Obviously AQ isn't a source for accurate information. I made it very clear that I was writing about the specific situation, not about how AQ bends the truth in general. Wrote that at least twice. I understood quite well what you wrote. I'm just still not sure why you were arguing with me. =Bob
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