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Post by AztecBill on Jul 9, 2010 10:17:44 GMT -8
We all hope this is true ... however if you remember ... Leonard was limited by foul trouble the entire 1st game against NM last year ... and he and White both fouled out of the 2nd game. Hobson created most of those fouls however, overall their frontline is better. If you look at the New Mexico BBall website you can watch Negedu sprinting up sand hills .... he's the real muscular one that has a tatoo "best SF in the MWC". Supposedly he ran a 4.1 40 up a sand hill with a 24 degree incline. It should surface on youtube in the next few hours. www.golobos.com/sports/m-baskbl/nm-m-baskbl-body.htmlAnd can he leap tall buildings in a single bound? 4.1 second 40 up a 24 degree incline in sand? Do you believe that? It is a joke. Maybe they meant 40 feet.
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 9, 2010 10:57:36 GMT -8
We all hope this is true ... however if you remember ... Leonard was limited by foul trouble the entire 1st game against NM last year ... and he and White both fouled out of the 2nd game. Hobson created most of those fouls however, overall their frontline is better. If you look at the New Mexico BBall website you can watch Negedu sprinting up sand hills .... he's the real muscular one that has a tatoo "best SF in the MWC". Supposedly he ran a 4.1 40 up a sand hill with a 24 degree incline. It should surface on youtube in the next few hours. www.golobos.com/sports/m-baskbl/nm-m-baskbl-body.htmlAnd can he leap tall buildings in a single bound? 4.1 second 40 up a 24 degree incline in sand? Do you believe that? It is a joke. Maybe they meant 40 feet. Yes ... I'm kidding around .. of course. The sand hill time is a joke. But the 4.4 40 time and the other sprint times at Tenn are legit though, and were recorded by team coaches. The fact that he collapsed while racing teammates who were trying to beat the fastest guy around, is also true. IF this kid is healthy though, he is arguably the strongest, most explosive player in the conference next year and will be a load at SF/PF ... (A BIG IF).
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 9, 2010 11:20:13 GMT -8
And can he leap tall buildings in a single bound? 4.1 second 40 up a 24 degree incline in sand? Do you believe that? It is a joke. Maybe they meant 40 feet. Yes ... I'm kidding around .. of course. The sand hill time is a joke. But the 4.4 40 time and the other sprint times at Tenn are legit though, and were recorded by team coaches. The fact that he collapsed while racing teammates who were trying to beat the fastest guy around, is also true. IF this kid is healthy though, he is arguably the strongest, most explosive player in the conference next year and will be a load at SF/PF ... (A BIG IF). I think the chances are that he will play and be an all MWC type player. Adding him moved UNM from an also ran to in contention but not to the level of last year. Before they added him, they had to replace two players who were the two leading scorers, rebounders, and steals, players on their team. Also two forwards who had A/TO ratios in the 1.5 range. That is very hard to replace. Forwards just don't do that. UNM was also very lucky last year. Before we beat them in the MWC semi finals they were 9-0 in games decided by 3 points or less. Part of that is skill but no matter how good a team is 9-0 in 3 point games is way lucky. Based upon that I thought they would have to improve just to maintain their level of last year. And losing two of the best forwards in the conference made improving a very difficult prospect.
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Post by loborick on Jul 10, 2010 8:30:20 GMT -8
Interesting thread. The Lobo frontline will be much, much improved over last year. Are they the best in the conference? That will be decided on the court. And I wouldn't worry too much about this team losing it's top two scorers. We lost the top THREE scorers the year before and we had a pretty good year last year. They will not have as good an overall record because of some tough road games and some young players, but they will be a very good team.
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Post by AzTeCViC on Jul 10, 2010 12:58:27 GMT -8
Clearly SDSU is the best.
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Post by nonpostpete on Jul 10, 2010 16:33:31 GMT -8
New Mexico has some serious talent for next season once their UCLA man becomes eligible. However, SDSU and UNLV also have serious talent. BYU has arguably the best player returning (yes, I know he is backcourt) and will also compete for league title. All 4 will be competitive for #1.
UNLV and SDSU have the deepest talent, IMO (if Willis remains eligible), but UNM is right there. SDSU and UNLV also have their starters returning, and that is the key factor that puts UNM in 3rd place by my thinking. Those two teams are the most experienced and deepest, with UNM just behind and BYU also very talented and well coached. It will be a tremendous battle for number 1, with all 4 again expecting to make the tournament.
This will be an epic MWC season, with a great chance for SDSU to end up king of the hill (pray to the injury and suspension gods to leave our boys alone this year). The key question is how far will Kawhi develop in year 2?
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Post by AztecTom on Jul 10, 2010 18:26:40 GMT -8
Clearly SDSU is the best. Absolutely!!! If it comes down to it, the Aztecs frontline will shread the loblows!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2010 23:19:47 GMT -8
New Mexico looks great on paper... but the fact of the matter is, our starting frontcourt consists of 3 All-MWC forwards. Until another team proves otherwise, our frontline is the premier trio in the league.
To keep things relatively objective, it is a 3 horse race for first place, with BYU maybe a shade below... but Jimmer is the best offesive player in the league, so anything can happen. New Mexico's newcomers down on the blocks will be very, very good. UNLV will be stronger down low this year as well. We will have our hands full, but I definitely think BW, MT, and KL are more than capable.
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Post by pokinsky on Aug 4, 2010 15:51:02 GMT -8
Interesting article by sports illustrated expecting Gordon and Negedu to be the top impact transfers of 2010 and will keep NM from falling in the MWC. A few interesting quotes ... Gordon's transfer story is the more common of the two, but a player with his potential doesn't often drop into the Mountain West. (wow .. no respect) "I don't care about points," Negedu said. "I just want to be the top rebounder on the team, and the league, too. That's what I love doing. If I need the ball, I go get it." (considering this kid is going to play some SF and PF it will be fun to watch him battle against our frontline) sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/07/30/transfers/index.html
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 5, 2010 8:02:35 GMT -8
Interesting article by sports illustrated expecting Gordon and Negedu to be the top impact transfers of 2010 and will keep NM from falling in the MWC. A few interesting quotes ... Gordon's transfer story is the more common of the two, but a player with his potential doesn't often drop into the Mountain West. (wow .. no respect) "I don't care about points," Negedu said. "I just want to be the top rebounder on the team, and the league, too. That's what I love doing. If I need the ball, I go get it." (considering this kid is going to play some SF and PF it will be fun to watch him battle against our frontline) sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/07/30/transfers/index.htmlHe will need to rebound. Darington Hobson and Roman Martinez combined for 16.4 rebounds a game in conference last year. Rebounding was a major strength for the Lobos because of those two. Aztecs fans would be surprised that The Lobos were the best rebounding team in the MWC last year. Darington Hobson and Roman Martinez in Conference 2010: 16.4 rebounds 30.8 points 86 Assists (more assists than the Lobos backcourt) 69 Turnovers 42 Steals (Lobos backcourt had 26) 17 Blocks That is a great PF/SF combo that's hard to upgrade. Hopefully for the Lobos, their new front court will improve on some of those areas (blocks) and the back court will take up the slack in areas they can't match (scoring/assists/steals).
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Post by pokinsky on Aug 5, 2010 9:06:43 GMT -8
Interesting article by sports illustrated expecting Gordon and Negedu to be the top impact transfers of 2010 and will keep NM from falling in the MWC. A few interesting quotes ... Gordon's transfer story is the more common of the two, but a player with his potential doesn't often drop into the Mountain West. (wow .. no respect) "I don't care about points," Negedu said. "I just want to be the top rebounder on the team, and the league, too. That's what I love doing. If I need the ball, I go get it." (considering this kid is going to play some SF and PF it will be fun to watch him battle against our frontline) sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/07/30/transfers/index.htmlHe will need to rebound. Darington Hobson and Roman Martinez combined for 16.4 rebounds a game in conference last year. Rebounding was a major strength for the Lobos because of those two. Aztecs fans would be surprised that The Lobos were the best rebounding team in the MWC last year. Darington Hobson and Roman Martinez in Conference 2010: 16.4 rebounds 30.8 points 86 Assists (more assists than the Lobos backcourt) 69 Turnovers 42 Steals (Lobos backcourt had 26) 17 Blocks That is a great PF/SF combo that's hard to upgrade. Hopefully for the Lobos, their new front court will improve on some of those areas (blocks) and the back court will take up the slack in areas they can't match (scoring/assists/steals). Those are great numbers, and Hobson and Martinez will be hard to replace, but they were both really SF's and the players they have coming in are really PF's. There is no way they are going to have as many steals, assists or 3 pointers coming from the F position but ... I wouldn't be surprised if their frontcourt averaged more blocks and rebounds and similar points. Don't forget, even though they lost talent at F, they upgraded at C and overall depth. Gordon should post better numbers at C than Will Brown did and 6'11 Kirk gives them another rebounder and also the 3 pt shooter they lost with Martinez. And I don't know how much time Negedu will spend at SF but I would be surprised if he doesn't avg more rebounds than Matinez did (5.9).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2010 9:35:32 GMT -8
Kawhi and Malcolm's numbers will be hard to match for New Mexico's new forward combo. The two of them combined for 26.3 ppg, 18.2 rpg, 34 blocks, 35 steals, 69 assists, 65 turnovers, in conference play.
Darrington and Roman were much better perimiter players. Looking forward to seeing how Gordon and Negadu stack up against us... not to mention, we have Billy White, who is a solid defender, so points will be hard to come by for either of those guys against our Aztecs.
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