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Post by pokinsky on Jul 6, 2010 15:01:07 GMT -8
I'm not saying he's some secret weapon either, I'm saying he does give us something different and he does have some experience. Those are two beneficial things - against certain teams he's helpful. Regardless of BC, the starting 3 is the best in the MWC and BC is capable of playing 15 minutes, TIm Shelton if healthy will provide some positives, even Medhi against certain teams/defenses will be a positive. Best starting 3: Aztecs and it is supplemented by three players that provide different things and different pieces That's very true ... Carlwell, Cheriet and Shelton will provide completely different options for Fish off the bench depending on the opponent. and as much as I seem to hate on Carlwell ... I do wish that he had 1 more year of eligibility to have a chance to shine as a starter (or at least get more minutes). It's hard for any player to find rhythm and gain confidence when you only play 3-5 minutes before getting yanked. |
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Post by monty on Jul 6, 2010 15:14:26 GMT -8
I'm not saying he's some secret weapon either, I'm saying he does give us something different and he does have some experience. Those are two beneficial things - against certain teams he's helpful. Regardless of BC, the starting 3 is the best in the MWC and BC is capable of playing 15 minutes, TIm Shelton if healthy will provide some positives, even Medhi against certain teams/defenses will be a positive. Best starting 3: Aztecs and it is supplemented by three players that provide different things and different pieces That's very true ... Carlwell, Cheriet and Shelton will provide completely different options for Fish off the bench depending on the opponent. and as much as I seem to hate on Carlwell ... I do wish that he had 1 more year of eligibility to have a chance to shine as a starter (or at least get more minutes). It's hard for any player to find rhythm and gain confidence when you only play 3-5 minutes before getting yanked. And he has some huge holes in his game, and none of those three will be contending for POY or 1st team all league (good think our starting 3 will! - how great would POY and 2 1st teams be?) I should have maybe made that clearer from the start, because that what has me so amped for this year - we have a dominant starting 5, one of the best overall in the history of the MWC with DJ, Chase, Leonard, Billy and Thomas; then we have the three above to fill in spots and situations (all three are more than capable of playing 15 minutes a game, but will likely all play 10 or so with some games getting 15-20 based on matchup) then we have backcourt pieces like a quick penetrating point guard, a big time shooter and JFrank who looks explosive as hell. Perhaps Alec will give us something. Regardless, that is a great, experienced, battle tested starting 5 with a bunch of different pieces. Sometimes I have to check my thoughts when I visualize what this team is capable of. |
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Post by miners22 on Jul 7, 2010 6:52:12 GMT -8
First of all, no one knows who Alford is going to put on the floor when it is time to play the Aztecs. Secondly, there is no way that New Mexico's frontline can handle the Aztecs! There are match-up problems for New Mexico regardless who Alford puts on the floor.
Here are the match-ups as I see them. White - Negedu;
Thomas - Gordon and Hardeman; Leonard - ? Then, when you bring Carlwell, Chieret and Shelton off the bench, advantage Aztecs!
I saw highlights of Negedu and he cannot shoot three feet from the basket! All he does is run, jump and tries to dunk. Gordon, I have watched him play since junior high school, he cannot shoot
ten feet from the basket. All he does is run, jump and dunk. We know what Hardeman can do, run, jump and dunk.
I do believe that New Mexico will be one of the top rebounding teams because Gordon and Hardeman can rebound the ball. If Gordon tries to defend Thomas, he will foul out the game. Like-
wise Hardeman is no match for Thomas and had problems guarding Carlwell. Cheriet and Shelton will take New Mexico's bigs away from the basket.
Hardeman, Gordon and Negedu too slow to guard White. There is no one on New Mexico's team that can guard Leonard. Snell,
Adams and etc? And their Freshman, Kirk, played against weak competition and will be in for a rude awakening when Thomas,
White, Leonard, Carlwell and others raise up and dunk the ball over his head!
Whoever believes that New Mexico's frontline is better than San
Diego State's needs to have his brain/head examined daily!
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Post by standiego on Jul 7, 2010 8:33:59 GMT -8
any information on the progress of A.W. #0, willl he play or red shirt-
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Post by AztecTom on Jul 7, 2010 9:17:57 GMT -8
any information on the progress of A.W. #0, willl he play or red shirt- I was told he would not red shirt. I was hoping he would because we have a lot of depth up front for this coming season. |
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 7, 2010 10:04:52 GMT -8
Negedu's eligibility is the main reason I started this post. After reading info about him, it sounds like he will start and possibly be dominant. He has a consistent 15 jump shot and shoots 80% from FT's. It also sounds like he might have the athleticism to even play the SF position. "his upper body is huge– just look at his neck and shoulders, Negedu stands 6′6″ without shoes with a 7′2″ wingspan, and has recorded a 46″ vertical leap. Combine those numbers with the rumor last week of his 4.35 second 40-yard dash and what we are looking at is a complete beast with freakish speed and athleticism".thebruceballblog.com/blog/?p=358And yes, Gordon was primarily a run and jump post player similar to White or Thomas (but might not be anymore though).... but he's also bigger than both of them and he's a major upgrade from Will Brown. And if Gordon and Negedu do turn out to be just "run and jump" players ... they might struggle without a penetrating PG ... oh wait, Gary is arguably the best in the MWC. My first sentence in this post says SDSU should have a better frontline ... but our players better bring their hardhats next year playing these guys, because they will much bigger and much more physical than they were last year. |
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Post by k5james on Jul 7, 2010 10:07:39 GMT -8
I call bull$#!+ on that 40 time.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jul 7, 2010 10:10:26 GMT -8
I don't think it is close on paper. I think Kirk is a slow white guy from New Mexico who hasn't had to play against much good competition. The transfer from Tenn. is a real question health wise, and Gordon is a head case. I don't think Snell is any better than his teammate, Franklin. Slow white guy from New Mexico ... vs slow black guy from Illinois favors NM and, yes .. Negedu and Gordon are the wild cards, but according to local NM pub, Gordon is the best player at practice, a fantastic teammate, and many think he should end up on the 1st team all-conference. Don't forget ... most posters on here had no idea who Hobson was last year and assumed White would be 1st team MWC and maybe even POY .... and it turned out the opposite was true. Matchups ... PF/C Thomas vs Hardeman ... advantage SDSU PF White vs Gordon ... advantage New Mexico PF/SF Leonard vs Snell .... advantage SDSU Bench PF/C Carlwell vs Kirk ... advantage New Mexico PF Shelton vs Negedu ... advantage New Mexico WHAT!!!! You are going to give the advantage in the White-Gordon matchup to UNM...that is your flaw. I'll take the Senior 4-year player that is going to play from Day 1 over the Soph that won't play until conference season starts. |
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Post by monty on Jul 7, 2010 10:22:49 GMT -8
I call bull$#!+ on that 40 time. When only a few guys that go to the NFL with training in the 40 register times like that at the combine, of course its BS I call bull$#!+ on nearly all reported 40 times. |
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Post by miners22 on Jul 7, 2010 14:07:24 GMT -8
I guess the Video highlights I saw did not depict Negedu
shooting the ball from 15 feet.
Yes, Gary is a PG that penetrates, but he looks for his shot
to draw a foul and get to the line. Gary rarely pentetrates
to dish ball to bigs. He dished the ball to Martinez and Mac-
Donald for 3 point shots. Last I checked, Gordon, Negedu
and Hardeman cannot shoot.
Watch for Gary and MacDonald to take most of the shots and
Gordon, Hardeman and Negedu hit the boards for rebounds.
Gordon will show his true colors once the "game" starts. He
is the type of player that will never change because he is a
"head case."
San Diego State's front-line will dominate New Mexico's front-line!
With Gordon, Hardeman and Negedu in the line-up, which player
defends White and Leonard? No matter who defends White and
Leonard, it will be a mis-match. Advantage Aztecs!
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 8, 2010 12:24:24 GMT -8
I guess the Video highlights I saw did not depict Negedu shooting the ball from 15 feet. Yes, Gary is a PG that penetrates, but he looks for his shot to draw a foul and get to the line. Gary rarely pentetrates to dish ball to bigs. He dished the ball to Martinez and Mac- Donald for 3 point shots. Last I checked, Gordon, Negedu and Hardeman cannot shoot. Watch for Gary and MacDonald to take most of the shots and Gordon, Hardeman and Negedu hit the boards for rebounds. Gordon will show his true colors once the "game" starts. He is the type of player that will never change because he is a "head case." San Diego State's front-line will dominate New Mexico's front-line! With Gordon, Hardeman and Negedu in the line-up, which player defends White and Leonard? No matter who defends White and Leonard, it will be a mis-match. Advantage Aztecs! Speaking of penetrating "to dish ball to bigs", I was thinking the other day that a penetration alleyoop would work well with Kawhi. Kawhi is so good attacking the basket without the ball to get offensive rebounds that just throwing the ball up high around the basket would result in an alleyoop dunk on many occasions. If they practice it, I think it could become a real weapon and be a lot of fun. |
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Post by monty on Jul 8, 2010 12:33:33 GMT -8
If leonard continues to play on the wing a lot, he needs to be cutting even more - once that quick double team comes against malcolm he should be stuffing balls through the basket all day long and/or creating wide open 3s for chase, dj, Rahon.
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Post by longtimebooster on Jul 8, 2010 13:49:49 GMT -8
I call bull$#!+ on that 40 time. Double bullsh*t! If a 6'6" / 240 lb. guy could really run that fast, he'd be playing tomorrow with an NFL team as a wide receiver / tight end making $10m per year. At 4.35, he'd be as fast as Marshall Faulk and twice as big. Puh-leeze. |
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Post by strasburger37 on Jul 8, 2010 14:24:08 GMT -8
With the depth that State has I don't see any team in the conference matching up with their frontline. Speed shouldn't always be the gauge of players that are supposed to bang down low, strength and athleticism is what to value in your frontline players
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 8, 2010 14:39:31 GMT -8
I call bull$#!+ on that 40 time. Double bullsh*t! If a 6'6" / 240 lb. guy could really run that fast, he'd be playing tomorrow with an NFL team as a wide receiver / tight end making $10m per year. At 4.35, he'd be as fast as Marshall Faulk and twice as big. Puh-leeze. He's only been playing basketball for a few years and I'm sure the only football he knows is played with a round ball. However the dude seems like a legit freak athlete and is going to give Kawhi all he can handle next year. ".. he has a 40 inch standing vertical leap and he ran a 3.02 in the three-fourths court sprint, which is the NBA equivalent of the 40-yard dash. If he had locked in that time at a NBA combine it would’ve ranked in the top 10 times ever posted." Or look at what scouts say about his pro prospects ... "showed off his ridiculous strength and athleticism a few occasions via monstrous dunks in transition and impressive blocked shots. Owning the physique of an NBA post player, he is able to outmuscle opponents in the pivot with regularity. Emmanuel’s game is primarily based on his strength and leaping ability, ..." www.draftexpress.com/profile/Emmanuel-Negedu-1367/bleacherreport.com/articles/82065-state-of-the-state-of-tennessee-basketball-address-part-2 |
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Post by miners22 on Jul 8, 2010 16:16:17 GMT -8
Nice to read hype reports, but remember the hype is before his cardiac arrest condition. I doubt Negedu can run a 3.0 40 and I doubt he still has a 40 inch vertical. As a matter of fact, I fear that he may not be able to run and up down the Court!
Let's hope tha young man can play five minutes a game and have some fun. There is no way that Negedu or anyone else on New Mexico's squad or the MWC that can handle Kawhi Leonard!
Next year, Kawhi's dominance will be felt all over the Court, not just on the Boards! In fact, I look for teams to double-team Kawhi!
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 8, 2010 16:35:14 GMT -8
Nice to read hype reports, but remember the hype is before his cardiac arrest condition. I doubt Negedu can run a 3.0 40 and I doubt he still has a 40 inch vertical. As a matter of fact, I fear that he may not be able to run and up down the Court! Let's hope tha young man can play five minutes a game and have some fun. There is no way that Negedu or anyone else on New Mexico's squad or the MWC that can handle Kawhi Leonard! Next year, Kawhi's dominance will be felt all over the Court, not just on the Boards! In fact, I look for teams to double-team Kawhi! We all hope this is true ... however if you remember ... Leonard was limited by foul trouble the entire 1st game against NM last year ... and he and White both fouled out of the 2nd game. Hobson created most of those fouls however, overall their frontline is better. If you look at the New Mexico BBall website you can watch Negedu sprinting up sand hills .... he's the real muscular one that has a tatoo "best SF in the MWC". Supposedly he ran a 4.1 40 up a sand hill with a 24 degree incline. It should surface on youtube in the next few hours. www.golobos.com/sports/m-baskbl/nm-m-baskbl-body.html |
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Post by monty on Jul 8, 2010 16:53:54 GMT -8
Nice to read hype reports, but remember the hype is before his cardiac arrest condition. I doubt Negedu can run a 3.0 40 and I doubt he still has a 40 inch vertical. As a matter of fact, I fear that he may not be able to run and up down the Court! Let's hope tha young man can play five minutes a game and have some fun. There is no way that Negedu or anyone else on New Mexico's squad or the MWC that can handle Kawhi Leonard! Next year, Kawhi's dominance will be felt all over the Court, not just on the Boards! In fact, I look for teams to double-team Kawhi! We all hope this is true ... however if you remember ... Leonard was limited by foul trouble the entire 1st game against NM last year ... and he and White both fouled out of the 2nd game. Hobson created most of those fouls however, overall their frontline is better. If you look at the New Mexico BBall website you can watch Negedu sprinting up sand hills .... he's the real muscular one that has a tatoo "best SF in the MWC". Supposedly he ran a 4.1 40 up a sand hill with a 24 degree incline. It should surface on youtube in the next few hours. www.golobos.com/sports/m-baskbl/nm-m-baskbl-body.htmlHe should not play basketball then and go win the 100m in 2 years at the Olympics, because he's faster than Bolt. |
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Post by phostone on Jul 8, 2010 17:02:42 GMT -8
To me, the incoming freshman, almost 20, Aussie off the National Team needs to be considered in this discussion or do you all know he ( 6-9, 230) can't play?
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 8, 2010 18:03:56 GMT -8
To me, the incoming freshman, almost 20, Aussie off the National Team needs to be considered in this discussion or do you all know he ( 6-9, 230) can't play? according to new mexico reports he is most likely to redshirt .. and I'm not sure if he is even enrolled yet ... transcript/transfer issues. either way, he might be very solid down the road, but I don't think he will see time over any of the others that were mentioned. |
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