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Post by steveaztec on Jun 19, 2010 8:02:25 GMT -8
If you had a son that could play for either team, which would you choose and why?
Two years of eligibility left at that level of college ball.
Which program is better?
All help appreciated.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 19, 2010 8:51:24 GMT -8
I heard the AD for Cal State San Marcos on the radio a couple weeks ago, and the guy sounded like a real go-getter. He has big plans for the school, and is a very forward thinking AD.
But the program IS brand new, so who knows how long it will take to become competitive?
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Post by hoobs on Jun 19, 2010 10:43:44 GMT -8
UCSD, much better school.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 19, 2010 10:59:54 GMT -8
Dennis Pugh at CSUSM is a very good coach. JMO
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Post by Pssst13 on Jun 21, 2010 15:11:16 GMT -8
Dennis Pugh at CSUSM is a very good coach. JMO Great high school coach for sure. D1, still unproven. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 21, 2010 21:38:58 GMT -8
Sorry Steve but SDSU is the only choice!  |
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 22, 2010 1:47:18 GMT -8
Dennis Pugh at CSUSM is a very good coach. JMO Great high school coach for sure. D1, still unproven. They aren't even D1 yet, I believe they are NAIA still and are awaiting approval for D2. UCSD on the other hand is a D2 power (at least recently) and has a much better academic pedigree than CSUSM. Not to mention the location of the schools is pretty good. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jun 22, 2010 7:16:40 GMT -8
Sorry Steve but SDSU is the only choice! That would have been an option for him, but he only has one year of D1 eligibility left. He wants to play 2 more years. |
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Post by Spud on Jun 23, 2010 20:27:21 GMT -8
UCSD without question. Unless he's destined for the pro's, you need to set him up with a great education...UCSD does that. CSUSM isn't a bad school, but UCSD is better.
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Post by aztec70 on Jun 24, 2010 18:12:16 GMT -8
UCSD. It is a great university. One of the best in the world. Why anyone would go to San Marcos if they could go to UCSD is beyond me.
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Post by lostcoast on Jun 25, 2010 16:06:32 GMT -8
UCSD is a fantastic school but is also quite expensive. Up until recently they didn't give any sort of athletic grants at all but i think what they give you now is just peanuts compared to tuition costs.
I don't know what CSUSMs athletics budget is like but it's cheaper to attend and if you can get money on top of that it could be a pretty cheap education. I guess it just depends on the situation.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 2, 2010 15:30:13 GMT -8
Tell ya what - I work with a woman with a BA from UCSD and she will tell anyone up front that it's a lousy school. She doesn't say that because it's academically overrated (she will agree that it's not), but rather because UCSD is so intent on becoming even in rep with Cal and UCSmellA. She told me the profs are totally intent on research, keep office hours only now and then and really don't give much of a rat's ass about undergrad students because the administration wants the profs concentrating on research rather than teaching and that means spending most of their time with grad students and post-docs.
CSUSM is an ambitious school in terms of athletics and costs one Hell of a lot less than UCSD.
=Bob
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Post by Spud on Jul 4, 2010 12:55:20 GMT -8
Tell ya what - I work with a woman with a BA from UCSD and she will tell anyone up front that it's a lousy school. She doesn't say that because it's academically overrated (she will agree that it's not), but rather because UCSD is so intent on becoming even in rep with Cal and UCSmellA. She told me the profs are totally intent on research, keep office hours only now and then and really don't give much of a rat's ass about undergrad students because the administration wants the profs concentrating on research rather than teaching and that means spending most of their time with grad students and post-docs. CSUSM is an ambitious school in terms of athletics and costs one Hell of a lot less than UCSD. =Bob According to my friends that went to numerous UC schools, that's how it is. UCSD attracts top talent that probably TA the undergrad courses so it's not like you're getting s#!++y teachers....like I got at SDSU and San Marcos. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 8, 2010 18:11:55 GMT -8
Tell ya what - I work with a woman with a BA from UCSD and she will tell anyone up front that it's a lousy school. She doesn't say that because it's academically overrated (she will agree that it's not), but rather because UCSD is so intent on becoming even in rep with Cal and UCSmellA. She told me the profs are totally intent on research, keep office hours only now and then and really don't give much of a rat's ass about undergrad students because the administration wants the profs concentrating on research rather than teaching and that means spending most of their time with grad students and post-docs. CSUSM is an ambitious school in terms of athletics and costs one Hell of a lot less than UCSD. =Bob According to my friends that went to numerous UC schools, that's how it is. UCSD attracts top talent that probably TA the undergrad courses so it's not like you're getting s#!++y teachers....like I got at SDSU and San Marcos. And my guess is if you'd gone to UCSD you'd be bitching about the s#!++y profs you had there. TAs are what they are and a lot of them are not cut out for teaching. Being a TA pays your way through your doctorate program, but just because someone is smart doesn't mean they're worth a damn teaching a class. In short, you really have nothing to compare your profs with since you never attended UCSD. So basically your talking out of your ass (and I mean that in a more or less polite manner since I do consider you one of the brighter people on this forum). =Bob |
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Post by 83aztec on Jul 15, 2010 13:47:45 GMT -8
Tell ya what - I work with a woman with a BA from UCSD and she will tell anyone up front that it's a lousy school. She doesn't say that because it's academically overrated (she will agree that it's not), but rather because UCSD is so intent on becoming even in rep with Cal and UCSmellA. She told me the profs are totally intent on research, keep office hours only now and then and really don't give much of a rat's ass about undergrad students because the administration wants the profs concentrating on research rather than teaching and that means spending most of their time with grad students and post-docs. =Bob You just described most major universities in the US. The goal of most of them is to bring in research dollars, kids have always come second or third. As an example my brother -n law taught at the University of Nebraska. While he was there the teacher of the year as voted by the students (AKA most popular) was fired 4 out of 5 years because they were not bringing in enough research $$$ to the University, UCSD is not exempt form this type of thinking and neither is Cal. |
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Post by gettough on Jul 15, 2010 14:29:10 GMT -8
Mike Rose, director of writing programs at UCLA, documented this practice in his book Lives on the Boundary, early 90's. Profs would actually try to bring their own teaching scores down (student survey) because they didn't want it to appear that were spending more time teaching than writing research.
For students, the prestige value of the degree matters if you really do know your stuff and you're in a very competitive field.
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Post by cvbigguy on Jul 22, 2010 20:18:55 GMT -8
UCSD by far!!!! great coach with a proven winning record and good school. i never was impressed with Pugh at mission bay. even though he had some good teams all he had to do was throw out the balls as the talent was there. ucsd has been a strong program for several years. csusm is still in the infant stages.
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Post by southbaysucker on Jul 23, 2010 18:46:07 GMT -8
Which school is cheaper!!!! I would definitely say ucsd and dont forget about Pt loma who has advanced far into their playoffs as well.
Cv you are way off on Coach Pugh. His talent base wasn't that rich. I t was not comparable to say a RB or a Poway or even El cap. Not close..
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Post by Pssst13 on Jul 24, 2010 1:54:54 GMT -8
Which school is cheaper!!!! I would definitely say ucsd and dont forget about Pt loma who has advanced far into their playoffs as well. Cv you are way off on Coach Pugh. His talent base wasn't that rich. I t was not comparable to say a RB or a Poway or even El cap. Not close.. I shouldn't feed the troll but I have to... Mission Bay aka Cathedral High School in baseball. Most of Coach Pugh's players were not from the area covering MB High. They only attended that school to play baseball. I'll stop right there before I get asked too many questions... |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jul 24, 2010 12:30:24 GMT -8
UCSD, much better school. For a BA or BS they are the same. |
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