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Post by AztecSports95 on Jun 17, 2010 15:20:54 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Jun 17, 2010 16:33:56 GMT -8
At least our AD is from the PAC 10.  |
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Post by frustratedfan on Jun 17, 2010 16:50:04 GMT -8
I agree. This is really funny. Aztecdew and I were talking yesterday about what Weber would say about Utah leaving and Weber's first sentence matches verbatim what both us us said he would say. Didn't Weber tell everyone a week ago that the MWC had "a few cards close to their vest" that they would play if a team left our conference? Well, it looks like those cards ended up being Jokers.  Sterk said we are stronger now than a week ago?  Oh really, in what way? I agree John, both Weber's and Sterk's words were weak, ineffectual, and plastic. Thompson's words weren't much better....I guess I shouldn't expect anything more from this trio. They all are reactive and not proactive and that is not good for the Aztecs or the conference. |
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Post by boblowe on Jun 17, 2010 17:11:52 GMT -8
I agree with about everything said. BSU is rated higher than Utah, the MWC is on the way up, etc.
What do you expect them to say?
"We've coveted the Pac 10 for many years. Utah's departure means we will focus on intramural flag football."
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Post by AztecSports95 on Jun 17, 2010 17:15:38 GMT -8
I agree. This is really funny. Aztecdew and I were talking yesterday about what Weber would say about Utah leaving and Weber's first sentence matches verbatim what both us us said he would say. Didn't Weber tell everyone a week ago that the MWC had "a few cards close to their vest" that they would play if a team left our conference? Well, it looks like those cards ended up being Jokers. Sterk said we are stronger now than a week ago? Oh really, in what way? I agree John, both Weber's and Sterk's words were weak, ineffectual, and plastic. Thompson's words weren't much better....I guess I shouldn't expect anything more from this trio. They all are reactive and not proactive and that is not good for the Aztecs or the conference. Just curious, what would you expect them (sterk and weber) to do? Not to say, but to do, in this situation. Are you saying Weber hasn't been good for the Aztecs? |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jun 17, 2010 18:14:42 GMT -8
Mountain out of a mole Hill. The Presidents had the foresight to add Boise and remain neutral, it could have been much worse.
We build from here.
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Post by frustratedfan on Jun 17, 2010 19:19:32 GMT -8
Just curious, what would you expect them (sterk and weber) to do? Not to say, but to do, in this situation. Are you saying Weber hasn't been good for the Aztecs? [/quote] First off Weber and Sterk need to stop the cliches. Saying that its a good sign for the conference when Utah leaves because it shows the conference is strong is garbage. Rick Bay said the same thing when Beth Burns left to go to Ohio State..."It is good when your coach leaves to go to a big time school because it shows that you have a strong program". We all know what happened to the womens basketball program when Beth left and it was anything but good. Regardless of what some say it is not a good thing to have Utah leave our conference because it DOES weaken our conference. What should Weber and Sterk do? See my previous comments about having a plan in place to lock up Hoke when he takes us to a prominent football program which I know he will. Problem is there is no plan in place, and there probably won't be. Instead when Hoke leaves to greener pastures Weber and Sterk will just say, "It is good when your coach leaves to go to a big time school because it shows that you have a strong program". Has Weber been good for SDSU? Absolutely...when it comes to academics. But I don't think he has been all that great for the athletic program. Save coming on here and telling me about how the programs which don't generate revenue for the university have improved under Weber...so what? Football should be the focus because it brings in money for the university, and we have had some of the worst years of football under Weber's watch. Don't make excuses for him because he does bear a large part of the blame for what has happened to the football program. Furthermore, can you honestly tell me it is still a good idea to have the AD report to Sally Rousch? Bay has been gone a long time and yet there is Sally still in that position. How is that good? Who has made that decision to keep her there?...Weber. If Weber spent as much time with the football program as he has with Zuma the Puma and the Ambassadork we might actually have a good program right now. |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 17, 2010 19:57:32 GMT -8
I agree. This is really funny. Aztecdew and I were talking yesterday about what Weber would say about Utah leaving and Weber's first sentence matches verbatim what both us us said he would say. Didn't Weber tell everyone a week ago that the MWC had "a few cards close to their vest" that they would play if a team left our conference? Well, it looks like those cards ended up being Jokers. Sterk said we are stronger now than a week ago? Oh really, in what way? I agree John, both Weber's and Sterk's words were weak, ineffectual, and plastic. Thompson's words weren't much better....I guess I shouldn't expect anything more from this trio. They all are reactive and not proactive and that is not good for the Aztecs or the conference. Boise gives the MWC more publicity than Utah |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 17, 2010 19:58:50 GMT -8
What do you expect them to say? I don't really care what they say. I care what they do. They should do provide options---some might call them ultimatums---to this league's so-called "proactive" commissioner. Here's the situation: 1. No BCS league is as small as ours. No BCS league will ever be as small as ours. 2. The league therefore needs to expand. 3. To the maximum extent possible, we need to add schools with ALL of the following: ---good (or at least decent) academic reputations ---good (or at least decent) national name recognition ---good (or at least decent) athletic tradition 4. This means adding from this list: ---SMU ---Houston ---Hawaii ---Memphis ---There may be another one or two, but Fresno State is NOT one of them (no offense, Yoda) If the league doesn't do these things, then the league will never be in the same stratosphere as the Pac Ten in terms of perception (no matter what the facts are). Therefore, if by staying in the MWC we have no chance of being in the BCS, we might as well go to another league that has no chance of being an AQ league---the WAC---and do what Boise has been doing for several years now: Dominate the league and get big money on our own. Memphis? Sorry but thats too far east and they wouldn't even consider us |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jun 17, 2010 20:00:44 GMT -8
Are you saying Weber hasn't been good for the Aztecs? Basketball has been much improved since he's been president. But football, the only other sport the majority of fans care about, has been downright awful except for 1996 and 1998 which were in the last MILLENIUM. The 2000's were a lost decade under his watch. How is that good? |
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Post by jdaztec on Jun 17, 2010 20:26:58 GMT -8
Sterk is right. As far as football goes,a nd that is what counts for BCS qualification, we are stronger than we were a week ago.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jun 17, 2010 21:08:42 GMT -8
Getting a BCS auto bid is the only concern of the MWC right now. We are closer than a week ago because Boise State has rated higher in recent seasons than Utah, which had one exceptional season instead of three or four.
SMU, Hawaii and Memphis doesn't put the MWC closer. Houston might, but I'm not sure.
Why does the MWC need to expand just because BCS conferences are bigger? Bigger could lessen our chances of the BCS auto bid.
Weber and Sterk probably shouldn't have said anything. I'm sure the cards up Thompson's sleeve disappeared when the Big 12 held together.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Jun 17, 2010 23:32:59 GMT -8
We should add Army, Navy, and Houston.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jun 18, 2010 6:36:23 GMT -8
What did you expect? "This really stinks & utah sux donkey ba--s!"
They had to be diplomats not fans!
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Post by choop on Jun 18, 2010 7:14:01 GMT -8
The presidents took an extra 4 days to come up with the conclusion to add Boise? I have not been able to come up with one scenario that would not make sense to add Boise State. Wonder what the exact thought process was that caused them to delay? Colorado? They would have added nothing point wise to the goal of getting AQ status. What a brain trust.
Waiting for another Boise State. Another team accomplishing what Boise did the last 10 years will probably not happen in the next 50 years. Beef up the middle of the MWC football line-up with Fresno, Houston, UTEP or Tulsa. Get a CCG game for the MWC. The MWC will sit quietly while Championship Game Week is held on ESPN. That'll be great for recruiting!
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Post by TruAztec on Jun 18, 2010 8:32:43 GMT -8
The Big East is 8 teams and is BCS. 9 is the right size (ask the ACC) unless we can add quality. Adding to add is suicide (see WAC-16 and I think the PAC-12).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2010 9:19:06 GMT -8
Has Weber been good for SDSU? Absolutely...when it comes to academics. But I don't think he has been all that great for the athletic program. Save coming on here and telling me about how the programs which don't generate revenue for the university have improved under Weber...so what? Football should be the focus because it brings in money for the university, and we have had some of the worst years of football under Weber's watch. Don't make excuses for him because he does bear a large part of the blame for what has happened to the football program. Furthermore, can you honestly tell me it is still a good idea to have the AD report to Sally Rousch? Bay has been gone a long time and yet there is Sally still in that position. How is that good? Who has made that decision to keep her there?...Weber. If Weber spent as much time with the football program as he has with Zuma the Puma and the Ambassadork we might actually have a good program right now. +1,000. I'll add that there simply hasn't been enough accountability for the athletic department on his watch. Admittedly overseeing athletics is only a fraction of what he's responsible for. However, not only does having a terrible football team cost the school millions in lost revenue, Weber has admitted himself on a number of occasions how much the football team is one of the primary faces of the university. In probably every other area of responsibility for him, the guy's performance deserves close to an A grade. However, with regard to football, it deserves close to an F. |
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Post by SD Johnny on Jun 18, 2010 9:39:26 GMT -8
Here's the situation: 1. No BCS league is as small as ours. No BCS league will ever be as small as ours. 2. The league therefore needs to expand. 3. To the maximum extent possible, we need to add schools with ALL of the following: ---good (or at least decent) academic reputations ---good (or at least decent) national name recognition ---good (or at least decent) athletic tradition 4. This means adding from this list: ---SMU ---Houston ---Hawaii ---Memphis ---There may be another one or two, but Fresno State is NOT one of them (no offense, Yoda) If the league doesn't do these things, then the league will never be in the same stratosphere as the Pac Ten in terms of perception (no matter what the facts are). Therefore, if by staying in the MWC we have no chance of being in the BCS, we might as well go to another league that has no chance of being an AQ league---the WAC---and do what Boise has been doing for several years now: Dominate the league and get big money on our own. The BigEast is SMALLER than the MWC. You didn't know that, John? Does that change your mind on expansion? |
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Post by zoni aztec on Jun 18, 2010 13:23:41 GMT -8
Lets go after the top tv markets, that where the bux r and bigger conferences r going 4. houston, and a kc area schools(KU, KSU) 2 mwc or also we can look into moving 2 a bcs conf.....big 12? What do you expect them to say? 4. This means adding from this list: ---SMU ---Houston ---Hawaii ---Memphis ---There may be another one or two, but Fresno State is NOT one of them (no offense, Yoda) |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 18, 2010 13:41:22 GMT -8
I like the size of the Conference at nine. The only thing that can add is to have enough teams to have a playoff in Football. Boise is a small step up in Football from Utah but a big step down in Basketball. If we are going to get two a number that has two divisions, then SMU with June Jones looks good. It would give us a presence in Dallas. I like Fresno as well but I would like to hear what the others say and why they are against the Bulldogs. The rotten crowd is past according to Yoda. They have a solid following in the Central Valley. They need to step it up in Basketball, but that is no reason to keep them out. I have always liked Hawaii, but understand the travel issue even if a trip every other year is a treat to most folks. Houston is another attractive team with a rising Football program and a solid history in Basketball. We can not help ourselves with San Jose the way things are going there, but things can change. I say again that nine is nice, but since we never seem to be all that stable, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Sterk said we are stronger now than a week ago? 
Oh really, in what way? I agree John, both Weber's and Sterk's words were weak, ineffectual, and plastic. Thompson's words weren't much better....I guess I shouldn't expect anything more from this trio. They all are reactive and not proactive and that is not good for the Aztecs or the conference.
