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Post by hoobs on Feb 8, 2011 13:51:31 GMT -8
I am in favor of the stadium being on the West Campus. Which will be located at the corner of I-8 and I-15. The SDSU Mission Campus: mission revival stylee, a mission or step pyramid facade, MLS team the Incas share the stadium, a research park, a 'river' front park, the city or UNy sells the northwest portion to help fund it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Old School on Feb 8, 2011 13:52:29 GMT -8
I thought SDSU was a great Business school? It shouldn't be too hard to make the money, right? Oldie Out
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Post by vegasaztec on Feb 8, 2011 14:41:01 GMT -8
Sleepy, you mentioned Vegas getting a new stadium but its not very likely.
Sleepy, you mentioned Vegas getting a new stadium but it really is unlikely to be built. As of today there is 3 proposals for anew stadium in Vegas and a 4th in the thinking stages. The general feeling here is that none of them will be built espedially if it involves taxpayer money. The unemployment rate here is 16% not counting the ones who have given up. The stadium builders claim they can get some major league sport here but the locals dont even support the teams that are here now.
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Post by Gilbert on Feb 8, 2011 15:58:22 GMT -8
I am in favor of the new stadium at I-8 and I-15 too.....especially if it costs SDSU $1 per year to rent like the deal in Vegas. Not sure how realistic it is to expect the City of San Diego to donate that property to SDSU but that would be the ideal situation if you could finance a new stadium. But it's doubtful you could finance a new stadium if the Chargers leave SD. Help me out here. If the city can't help or consider building a new stadium on the current site then how are we going to get a stadium built for the Aztecs?
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Post by zurac315 on Feb 8, 2011 16:05:21 GMT -8
For the first time in years I feel like a stadium is a possibility. How it might get done I don't know, but I do feel that it CAN be done.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Feb 8, 2011 16:08:32 GMT -8
It's actuallly pretty easy. Just get Farmer's to offer the same $700 million to the City for naming rights and let the Chargers/NFL build the stadium on their own dime and let SDSU use the stadium forever for a buck a year. Qualcomm would have to approve the deal but they might be willing to renegotiate their current deal with the City given the Chargers might leave and the value of naming rights for an empty stadium would be close to nada.
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Post by SD Johnny on Feb 8, 2011 16:21:20 GMT -8
It's actuallly pretty easy. Just get Farmer's to offer the same $700 million to the City for naming rights and let the Chargers/NFL build the stadium on their own dime and let SDSU use the stadium forever for a buck a year. Qualcomm would have to approve the deal but they might be willing to renegotiate their current deal with the City given the Chargers might leave and the value of naming rights for an empty stadium would be close to nada. LOL.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Feb 8, 2011 16:23:20 GMT -8
It's actuallly pretty easy. Just get Farmer's to offer the same $700 million to the City for naming rights and let the Chargers/NFL build the stadium on their own dime and let SDSU use the stadium forever for a buck a year. Qualcomm would have to approve the deal but they might be willing to renegotiate their current deal with the City given the Chargers might leave and the value of naming rights for an empty stadium would be close to nada. Farmer's isn't paying $700M to name a stadium in San Diego. They're paying it to name a stadium in downtown Los Angeles. Huge difference.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Feb 8, 2011 16:27:44 GMT -8
OK....so get SAIC or Genentech or whoever to offer say $400 million. I can guarantee you that $700 million is not present value. In other words, get someone to cut the City of San Diego a check for $400 million and you've probably got a deal for a new stadium. The Chargers would be given "free rent" for say 20-30 years in return for building the stadium.
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Post by aztecmoxie on Feb 8, 2011 16:30:25 GMT -8
Lots of good ideas. Keep on winning and our fan base just might be able to pull this off. +1
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Post by SD Johnny on Feb 8, 2011 21:26:11 GMT -8
There is room and a site available on campus. The school just bought the 20 acres on 55th Street (north of TG Stadium) for $25 million last year. This is the site Schemmel had identified as the best spot and there have been architectural stadium drawings done on the site before they bought it. Sterk said this was a potential stadium location early this year (not publically).
The last two non-bcs programs to build stadium (Akron & UCF) got $15 million in naming rights and raised an additional $30 mil or so privately. I think its realistic to say we would match both those numbers easily.
A student vote to build Cox Arena (now Viejas) by increasing student fees by $50 per semester was overwhelmingly approved in the mid 80's. I am extremely confident a similar fee would pass overwhelmingly for a stadium when the Chargers announce they are leaving to LA. Enrollment was recently near 35K before budget cuts and by 2025 we will be at 45K per the Master Plan so I'll use 40,000 for the following: 40K students paying $100 per year (like the Cox Arena fee) equates to $120,000,000 over 30 years.
There's $165 mil to get the conversation started. SDSU has resources when needed.
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Post by onelittleindian on Feb 9, 2011 0:00:47 GMT -8
I believe it was Fox 5 who did a "what if..." after the Super Bowl about the plausibility of a downtown stadium. While terms like $700 million are intangible to most of us, if you actually sit down and start connecting the dots, it's the type of thing that CAN happen if enough of the necessary players are willing to roll-up their sleeves and open their wallets and minds.
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Post by SD Johnny on Feb 9, 2011 5:49:14 GMT -8
I believe it was Fox 5 who did a "what if..." after the Super Bowl about the plausibility of a downtown stadium. While terms like $700 million are intangible to most of us, if you actually sit down and start connecting the dots, it's the type of thing that CAN happen if enough of the necessary players are willing to roll-up their sleeves and open their wallets and minds. $700 million? This isn't the Charger message board so I'm not sure why you use that number. If by some miracle the Chargers stay in San Diego SDSU would have little to do with funding their stadium. A stadium for SDSU would be $100-200 million.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Feb 9, 2011 9:07:16 GMT -8
OK....so get SAIC or Genentech or whoever to offer say $400 million. I can guarantee you that $700 million is not present value. In other words, get someone to cut the City of San Diego a check for $400 million and you've probably got a deal for a new stadium. The Chargers would be given "free rent" for say 20-30 years in return for building the stadium. SAIC is no longer a San Diego company. They have moved, or are moving, to DC.
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Post by votecarcetti on Feb 9, 2011 9:40:01 GMT -8
There is room and a site available on campus. The school just bought the 20 acres on 55th Street (north of TG Stadium) for $25 million last year. This is the site Schemmel had identified as the best spot and there have been architectural stadium drawings done on the site before they bought it. Sterk said this was a potential stadium location early this year (not publically). The last two non-bcs programs to build stadium (Akron & UCF) got $15 million in naming rights and raised an additional $30 mil or so privately. I think its realistic to say we would match both those numbers easily. A student vote to build Cox Arena (now Viejas) by increasing student fees by $50 per semester was overwhelmingly approved in the mid 80's. I am extremely confident a similar fee would pass overwhelmingly for a stadium when the Chargers announce they are leaving to LA. Enrollment was recently near 35K before budget cuts and by 2025 we will be at 45K per the Master Plan so I'll use 40,000 for the following: 40K students paying $100 per year (like the Cox Arena fee) equates to $120,000,000 over 30 years. There's $165 mil to get the conversation started. SDSU has resources when needed. That site could fit a stadium, sure, but accessibility and parking would be a nightmare. They'd have to build some sort of huge ramp/elevator to connect to those lots down below.
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Post by SD Johnny on Feb 9, 2011 10:29:33 GMT -8
There are 14K parking spaces available on campus...that is the same amount of spaces the City of San Diego is required to provide the Chargers on the Qualcomm site. They could never play a game here on a school day but weekends would be no problem as those parking spaces would not be used.
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Post by votecarcetti on Feb 9, 2011 10:41:54 GMT -8
Hope people don't mind hoofing it across campus from those structures over by Zura.
On the plus side, it would really get the students involved. I can see the roof of Chappy becoming the new Tightwad Hill.
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Post by SD Johnny on Feb 9, 2011 11:22:56 GMT -8
Hope people don't mind hoofing it across campus from those structures over by Zura. On the plus side, it would really get the students involved. I can see the roof of Chappy becoming the new Tightwad Hill. Treking across campus is about a mile and that's as far as it gets. If that's too far they can take the trolley, bus or simply get there early.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Feb 9, 2011 11:34:21 GMT -8
You can certainly build an on-campus stadium for $150 million or so but it won't be a first-class NFL stadium. The question really is do you want a first-class stadium off-campus for $0 money or an on-campus stadium at $150 million? And the NFL stadium probably would be something around 65,000 seats as opposed to 45,000 for on-campus. If SDSU elevates the football program to where it should be, we may be able to attract 60,000 + for big games. That would mean leaving a lot of money on the table for those games.
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Post by votecarcetti on Feb 9, 2011 12:02:16 GMT -8
You can certainly build an on-campus stadium for $150 million or so but it won't be a first-class NFL stadium. The question really is do you want a first-class stadium off-campus for $0 money or an on-campus stadium at $150 million? And the NFL stadium probably would be something around 65,000 seats as opposed to 45,000 for on-campus. If SDSU elevates the football program to where it should be, we may be able to attract 60,000 + for big games. That would mean leaving a lot of money on the table for those games. I think the on-campus stadium talk presupposes a Chargers move and a Qualcomm demolition. An NFL stadium within city limits is clearly in SDSU's best interest. But there must be a contingency plan ready to roll out in case the moving vans ever roll out of Chargers Park.
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