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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 15:25:52 GMT -8
I have nothing to say about him that hasn't already been said on several other threads. However, since we now have an attack of loser members of the Borgian horde coming in here with major erections over how great he is, I wanted to start a thread I knew they would open so I could tell them how full of $#!+ they are.
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Post by franklinmint on Jan 27, 2011 15:39:39 GMT -8
...We'll see how he fairs here at Viejas Arena and the neutral Thomas Mack Center in Las Vegas come Mountain West tournament time...not to mention the best basketball guards on the planet -- the NBA's.
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Post by pbaztec on Jan 27, 2011 15:57:20 GMT -8
They can say anything they want, but he is their only player. They don't have a good, balanced team otherwise. If he were to get hurt they would be done.
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Post by fmichigan on Jan 27, 2011 15:59:15 GMT -8
If he were to get hurt they would be done. Yeah they would. We have the better team and they have the best player in college basketball this year.
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 27, 2011 18:17:33 GMT -8
I have nothing to say about him that hasn't already been said on several other threads. However, since we now have an attack of loser members of the Borgian horde coming in here with major erections over how great he is, I wanted to start a thread I knew they would open so I could tell them how full of $#!+ they are. I just fell off my freakin' chair laughing! Good one.
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Post by podpeople on Jan 27, 2011 19:29:45 GMT -8
I don't know... One great player should never be able to beat a really good team, let alone the #4 rated team in the country. As much as I hate BYU, it just seems uncanny how they just always are able to beat us. I don't even know what to think. And all this talk about them coming down to sea level is odd... You guys know that kenyan marathon runners train year long above sea level so they perform better when they run nearer to it, right?
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 27, 2011 19:34:10 GMT -8
One player didn't beat us last night. Jimmer had 43, State scored 58. Where we really screwed up was allowing Brandon Davies to score 14 points.
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Post by Borg on Jan 27, 2011 20:21:42 GMT -8
They can say anything they want, but he is their only player. They don't have a good, balanced team otherwise. If he were to get hurt they would be done. I think you need to give your team some credit...credit where credit is due. BYU has been incredibly balanced...that is until as of late. Teams have totally focused on shutting down everyone and letting Jimmer try to beat them. Reasoning, that one man can't beat a team. If they shut down everyone else...then Jimmer won't put up enough to be them. He is capable to do that if required. If teams back off...and just focus on stopping Jimmer,...then Jackson and Hartsock have been going off all year long with the deep threes. Davies can also hurt people if they forget about him. Fisher I think made a decision to shut down everyone else, and try and wear down Jimmer. It almost worked. I would do the same thing if I was a coach.
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Post by cougs on Jan 27, 2011 20:32:24 GMT -8
/\ l l l Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Know your stuff before running your mouth.
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Post by survalli on Jan 27, 2011 20:33:07 GMT -8
They can say anything they want, but he is their only player. They don't have a good, balanced team otherwise. If he were to get hurt they would be done. I think you need to give your team some credit...credit where credit is due. BYU has been incredibly balanced...that is until as of late. Teams have totally focused on shutting down everyone and letting Jimmer try to beat them. Reasoning, that one man can't beat a team. If they shut down everyone else...then Jimmer won't put up enough to be them. He is capable to do that if required. If teams back off...and just focus on stopping Jimmer,...then Jackson and Hartsock have been going off all year long with the deep threes. Davies can also hurt people if they forget about him. Fisher I think made a decision to shut down everyone else, and try and wear down Jimmer. It almost worked. I would do the same thing if I was a coach. i'll give some credit..Jimmer is a heck of a player, and ive always liked Davies...not what i dont like, is how all the sudden BYU thinks they are the $#!+. Come on, you were playing a wounded animal, Can you not tell me the Aztecs were DRAGGING their feet for nearly all the second half? and still made a game of it, i completely understand how you lost to UCLA. Do not get cocky. Im not going to make excuses for the team....but you should be realistic about that whole incident.
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Post by aztecvatar on Jan 27, 2011 20:44:57 GMT -8
he made us look stupid on national TV...the one game we needed to show the nation how good we really are, but we crap the bed once again...one guy beat our whole team...not only that, but Davies owned our front court.
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Post by aufman on Jan 28, 2011 0:46:29 GMT -8
Jimmer is unstoppable right now and he will dominate the college basketball scene. He will single-handedly win the MWC and NCAA championships and dominate the NBA! He could be greater than Michael Jordan and Larry Bird! I see him scoring as much as 50 points against OSU in the NCAA finals. Jimmer is better than the entire SDSU team combined.
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Post by ellbee on Jan 28, 2011 1:17:07 GMT -8
I have nothing to say about him that hasn't already been said on several other threads. However, since we now have an attack of loser members of the Borgian horde coming in here with major erections over how great he is, I wanted to start a thread I knew they would open so I could tell them how full of $#!+ they are. LOL!!! Bravo!!!
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 28, 2011 8:36:58 GMT -8
One player didn't beat us last night. Jimmer had 43, State scored 58. Where we really screwed up was allowing Brandon Davies to score 14 points. Agree!
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Post by longtimebooster on Jan 28, 2011 9:21:20 GMT -8
Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Uh, OK. SDSU is more balanced. By far. In fact, it is one of the most-balanced teams offensively in college bball. Conversely, BYU is one of the least balanced teams offensively in college bball. Do you even watch the games? Do you ever pay attention? Now put on your big-boy pants and pay close attention. I know you went to BYU, but I'm going to throw some statistical concepts at you anyway. On BYU, Fredette scores 32% of the team's points. The next player, Emery, scores less than half that with 15%. On SDSU, Leonard scores 21% of the team's points. The next player, Gay, is close with 17%. Thomas is right there, too with 16%. Now let's use a term that I'm sure will scare you: standard deviation. The mean of the BYU's top 7 players in terms of scoring percentage is 12%. The standard deviation for those 7 players is 9.6. Fredette is well over 2 standard deviations beyond the mean when it comes to scoring on the BYU team. The range of the high/low scorers is a whopping 30. That's imbalance in big red letters. The mean of SDSU's top 7 players is 13%. The standard deviation is 5.2, almost half of BYU's. The range is 16, again almost half. (When you take the top 6 players, the range is much smaller at only 11, nearly 1/3 of BYU's top 6.) Leonard is only 1.5 standard deviations beyond the mean of his teammates in terms of scoring. That's balance defined. Here are some links if you want to try to monkey around with the numbers yourself. But again, you went to BYU, so don't hurt yourself. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/brigham-youngstatsheet.com/mcb/teams/san-diego-stateBYU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpSDSU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpKnow your stuff before running your mouth. Amen.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 28, 2011 9:27:48 GMT -8
Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Uh, OK. SDSU is more balanced. By far. In fact, it is one of the most-balanced teams offensively in college bball. Conversely, BYU is one of the least balanced teams offensively in college bball. Do you even watch the games? Do you ever pay attention? Now put on your big-boy pants and pay close attention. I know you went to BYU, but I'm going to throw some statistical concepts at you anyway. On BYU, Fredette scores 32% of the team's points. The next player, Emery, scores less than half that with 15%. On SDSU, Leonard scores 21% of the team's points. The next player, Gay, is close with 17%. Thomas is right there, too with 16%. Now let's use a term that I'm sure will scare you: standard deviation. The mean of the BYU's top 7 players in terms of scoring percentage is 12%. The standard deviation for those 7 players is 9.6. Fredette is well over 2 standard deviations beyond the mean when it comes to scoring on the BYU team. The range of the high/low scorers is a whopping 30. That's imbalance in big red letters. The mean of SDSU's top 7 players is 13%. The standard deviation is 5.2, almost half of BYU's. The range is 16, again almost half. (When you take the top 6 players, the range is much smaller at only 11, nearly 1/3 of BYU's top 6.) Leonard is only 1.5 standard deviations beyond the mean of his teammates in terms of scoring. That's balance defined. Here are some links if you want to try to monkey around with the numbers yourself. But again, you went to BYU, so don't hurt yourself. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/brigham-youngstatsheet.com/mcb/teams/san-diego-stateBYU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpSDSU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpKnow your stuff before running your mouth. Amen. Bravo!!!!!!
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Post by ziggy on Jan 28, 2011 10:08:03 GMT -8
Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Uh, OK. SDSU is more balanced. By far. In fact, it is one of the most-balanced teams offensively in college bball. Conversely, BYU is one of the least balanced teams offensively in college bball. Do you even watch the games? Do you ever pay attention? Now put on your big-boy pants and pay close attention. I know you went to BYU, but I'm going to throw some statistical concepts at you anyway. On BYU, Fredette scores 32% of the team's points. The next player, Emery, scores less than half that with 15%. On SDSU, Leonard scores 21% of the team's points. The next player, Gay, is close with 17%. Thomas is right there, too with 16%. Now let's use a term that I'm sure will scare you: standard deviation. The mean of the BYU's top 7 players in terms of scoring percentage is 12%. The standard deviation for those 7 players is 9.6. Fredette is well over 2 standard deviations beyond the mean when it comes to scoring on the BYU team. The range of the high/low scorers is a whopping 30. That's imbalance in big red letters. The mean of SDSU's top 7 players is 13%. The standard deviation is 5.2, almost half of BYU's. The range is 16, again almost half. (When you take the top 6 players, the range is much smaller at only 11, nearly 1/3 of BYU's top 6.) Leonard is only 1.5 standard deviations beyond the mean of his teammates in terms of scoring. That's balance defined. Here are some links if you want to try to monkey around with the numbers yourself. But again, you went to BYU, so don't hurt yourself. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/brigham-youngstatsheet.com/mcb/teams/san-diego-stateBYU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpSDSU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpKnow your stuff before running your mouth. Amen. Looks like Bill hijacked LTB's account.
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Post by longtimebooster on Jan 28, 2011 10:20:44 GMT -8
Looks like Bill hijacked LTB's account. I am Padawan. Bill is Yoda. I know enough stats to hurt myself with a light saber. I usually just hire guys like Bill. In fact, I'm sure Bill will come in and either illuminate some of my points or correct some of my math. Finally, the fact that Jimmer is the major feature on BYU's offense isn't a bad thing. It's just silly to go around saying BYU has a balanced offense, and that everyone on that team gets ample touches and chances to score. They don't. And Dave Rose would be an idiot not to run the majority of the offense through Jimmer. And Dave Rose isn't an idiot.
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Post by aufman on Jan 28, 2011 10:35:59 GMT -8
Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Uh, OK. SDSU is more balanced. By far. In fact, it is one of the most-balanced teams offensively in college bball. Conversely, BYU is one of the least balanced teams offensively in college bball. Do you even watch the games? Do you ever pay attention? Now put on your big-boy pants and pay close attention. I know you went to BYU, but I'm going to throw some statistical concepts at you anyway. On BYU, Fredette scores 32% of the team's points. The next player, Emery, scores less than half that with 15%. On SDSU, Leonard scores 21% of the team's points. The next player, Gay, is close with 17%. Thomas is right there, too with 16%. Now let's use a term that I'm sure will scare you: standard deviation. The mean of the BYU's top 7 players in terms of scoring percentage is 12%. The standard deviation for those 7 players is 9.6. Fredette is well over 2 standard deviations beyond the mean when it comes to scoring on the BYU team. The range of the high/low scorers is a whopping 30. That's imbalance in big red letters. The mean of SDSU's top 7 players is 13%. The standard deviation is 5.2, almost half of BYU's. The range is 16, again almost half. (When you take the top 6 players, the range is much smaller at only 11, nearly 1/3 of BYU's top 6.) Leonard is only 1.5 standard deviations beyond the mean of his teammates in terms of scoring. That's balance defined. Here are some links if you want to try to monkey around with the numbers yourself. But again, you went to BYU, so don't hurt yourself. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/brigham-youngstatsheet.com/mcb/teams/san-diego-stateBYU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpSDSU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpKnow your stuff before running your mouth. Amen. Balanced team means NOTHING when going against Jimmer. Jimmer can single handedly beat any team. Mark my words, Jimmer will win the MWC and NCAA tournaments. Ohio State will go down in defeat to Jimmer.
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Post by longtimebooster on Jan 28, 2011 10:48:28 GMT -8
Balanced team means NOTHING when going against Jimmer. Concur. It's you stoopid Zoobs who keep arguing otherwise. Glad you agree with me.
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