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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 28, 2011 12:10:54 GMT -8
Balanced team means NOTHING when going against Jimmer. Jimmer can single handedly beat any team. Mark my words, Jimmer will win the MWC and NCAA tournaments. Ohio State will go down in defeat to Jimmer. The sun doesn't rise until Jimmer says "good morning." Jimmer doesn't do push ups, he pushes the earth away.
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Post by azdick on Jan 28, 2011 12:17:08 GMT -8
Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Uh, OK. SDSU is more balanced. By far. In fact, it is one of the most-balanced teams offensively in college bball. Conversely, BYU is one of the least balanced teams offensively in college bball. Do you even watch the games? Do you ever pay attention? Now put on your big-boy pants and pay close attention. I know you went to BYU, but I'm going to throw some statistical concepts at you anyway. On BYU, Fredette scores 32% of the team's points. The next player, Emery, scores less than half that with 15%. On SDSU, Leonard scores 21% of the team's points. The next player, Gay, is close with 17%. Thomas is right there, too with 16%. Now let's use a term that I'm sure will scare you: standard deviation. The mean of the BYU's top 7 players in terms of scoring percentage is 12%. The standard deviation for those 7 players is 9.6. Fredette is well over 2 standard deviations beyond the mean when it comes to scoring on the BYU team. The range of the high/low scorers is a whopping 30. That's imbalance in big red letters. The mean of SDSU's top 7 players is 13%. The standard deviation is 5.2, almost half of BYU's. The range is 16, again almost half. (When you take the top 6 players, the range is much smaller at only 11, nearly 1/3 of BYU's top 6.) Leonard is only 1.5 standard deviations beyond the mean of his teammates in terms of scoring. That's balance defined. Here are some links if you want to try to monkey around with the numbers yourself. But again, you went to BYU, so don't hurt yourself. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/brigham-youngstatsheet.com/mcb/teams/san-diego-stateBYU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpSDSU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpKnow your stuff before running your mouth. Amen. Down goes Frazier! Down Goes Frazier!. Down goes Frazier!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 12:41:11 GMT -8
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Post by danloc09 on Jan 28, 2011 12:47:13 GMT -8
I was just about to post this article, good thing I read the whole thread first haha. I think it's pretty well written, and shows that GMs are all over the place on him. The point seems to be that he's a one trick pony, and as it turns out, scorers are a dime a dozen in the association. Once you move past the myth that no one in the NBA plays defense, we realize that the fact that he doesn't defend, rebound, or create shots for others regularly will hurt him at the next level.
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Post by zurac315 on Jan 28, 2011 13:54:25 GMT -8
I don't know... One great player should never be able to beat a really good team, let alone the #4 rated team in the country. As much as I hate BYU, it just seems uncanny how they just always are able to beat us. I don't even know what to think. And all this talk about them coming down to sea level is odd... You guys know that kenyan marathon runners train year long above sea level so they perform better when they run nearer to it, right? Yup.
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Post by DukeAztec on Jan 28, 2011 14:00:53 GMT -8
One player didn't beat us last night. Jimmer had 43, State scored 58. Where we really screwed up was allowing Brandon Davies to score 14 points. +1 yep
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Post by DukeAztec on Jan 28, 2011 14:03:01 GMT -8
Jimmer is unstoppable right now and he will dominate the college basketball scene. He will single-handedly win the MWC and NCAA championships and dominate the NBA! He could be greater than Michael Jordan and Larry Bird! I see him scoring as much as 50 points against OSU in the NCAA finals. Jimmer is better than the entire SDSU team combined. are you on dope or dog food?
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Post by longtimebooster on Jan 28, 2011 14:17:50 GMT -8
Great article. The Jimmer/NBA debate reminds me completely of the Marshall Faulk debate. In fact, you could substitute Faulk's name for Fredette's name in this article and you could substitute football terms for basketball terms, and you'd have the exact same nonsense that floated around about Faulk before the NFL draft. All the doubters were completely stoned. And had Faulk played in the SEC, he'd have been a hero. As for the no-defense/doesn't commit fouls argument, that's stupid. He spent most of the night on Wed. chasing Gay and Tapley around. Gay tossed up a donut and Tapley wasn't much better. As far as not committing fouls, it's not that he's not playing defense. Puh-leeze. It's because he has such great body control and is so smart, that he can play outstanding defense without hacking someone. Do these guys even watch the games before spouting off? This GM is the only one who seems to know what's going on: Out West, there’s an NBA scout who’s closely followed Fredette’s career. He’s watched him courtside multiple times over the past couple seasons, and flatly said: “I’m telling you, he’s better than Stephen Curry. “Curry was always taking difficult, off-balance shots because he couldn’t create space like Fredette can for himself. Plus, I don’t think his team is any good. He’s doing this himself. He’s having one of the most remarkable seasons any college player’s had in the last 10 or 15 years. “If this kid played in the ACC or Big East, they’d be building a statue for him.”
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 28, 2011 18:49:32 GMT -8
Amen. Please, compare BYU stats to SDSU stats and tell me who is more balanced. Uh, OK. SDSU is more balanced. By far. In fact, it is one of the most-balanced teams offensively in college bball. Conversely, BYU is one of the least balanced teams offensively in college bball. Do you even watch the games? Do you ever pay attention? Now put on your big-boy pants and pay close attention. I know you went to BYU, but I'm going to throw some statistical concepts at you anyway. On BYU, Fredette scores 32% of the team's points. The next player, Emery, scores less than half that with 15%. On SDSU, Leonard scores 21% of the team's points. The next player, Gay, is close with 17%. Thomas is right there, too with 16%. Now let's use a term that I'm sure will scare you: standard deviation. The mean of the BYU's top 7 players in terms of scoring percentage is 12%. The standard deviation for those 7 players is 9.6. Fredette is well over 2 standard deviations beyond the mean when it comes to scoring on the BYU team. The range of the high/low scorers is a whopping 30. That's imbalance in big red letters. The mean of SDSU's top 7 players is 13%. The standard deviation is 5.2, almost half of BYU's. The range is 16, again almost half. (When you take the top 6 players, the range is much smaller at only 11, nearly 1/3 of BYU's top 6.) Leonard is only 1.5 standard deviations beyond the mean of his teammates in terms of scoring. That's balance defined. Here are some links if you want to try to monkey around with the numbers yourself. But again, you went to BYU, so don't hurt yourself. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/brigham-youngstatsheet.com/mcb/teams/san-diego-stateBYU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpSDSU standard deviation: easycalculation.com/statistics/standard-deviation.phpKnow your stuff before running your mouth. Amen. There is one key statistic that you forgot to mention. The average SDSU Basketball player is a freakin' stud. The average BYU player throughout history is a cryin' weenie. These facts have been validated.
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