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Post by miners22 on Jan 26, 2011 22:05:56 GMT -8
First of all, BYU deserves credit for sticking to their game plan (
give the ball to Fredette and allow him to take all the shots)!
Aztecs Coaching Staff has watched Fredette and BYU's offensive
and defensive schemes for at least the last four years. So, why
put your weakest defender on the Nation and Conference
leading scorer?
And, to add insult to injury, why would you continue to allow your weakest defender guard Fredette after he scores all of his team's points? Why not double-team/trap Fredette and get the ball out of his hand?
WOW! It was a great revelation to put Aztecs best defensive player, Billy White, on Fredette, but it was too late! As poorly
as the Aztecs played, they still had chances to win the game.
Hopefully, this game will be a learning experience for the Aztecs
players and Coaching Staff because I guarantee you that BYU is going to contend for the League and Tournament Titles!
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Post by longtimebooster on Jan 26, 2011 22:09:37 GMT -8
Fredette's unguardable. Billy did a great job on Fredette for two minutes, then he was so gassed, he asked out of the game.
Jimmer is just a freak. Dude is the best college hoops player (non-big man) I've seen in maybe a decade. Maybe more. Kemba and Sullinger are both very good. But Jimmer is just on another planet.
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Post by guyledouche on Jan 26, 2011 22:11:04 GMT -8
Nobody on the Aztecs roster and few collegiate players around the country could guard Jimmer. He's friggin nasty!
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Post by Old School on Jan 26, 2011 22:11:53 GMT -8
He's a future NBA pick, you can only hope to contain him at this level of ball.
We did our best.
Oldie Out
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Post by uncledougy on Jan 26, 2011 22:12:08 GMT -8
I think in some other thread I said Jimmer was a human like all of us and he doesn't walk on water, but I think I might have to think about that one and ask him to walk across a lake to find out!
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Post by Aztec Empire on Jan 26, 2011 22:13:36 GMT -8
Jimmer was unbelievable tonight, and NO ONE could have stopped him. That said, we had a better option available on defense and we didn't use it.
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Post by miners22 on Jan 26, 2011 22:27:22 GMT -8
Trap and Double Team Fredette and watch how many points he
score. I guarantee you that he will not score 30!
So, what he passes the ball to another teammate and teammate
may or may not score. I would rather watch Davies, Hartsock,
Collinsworth, Abuo and Emery take more shots than Fredette!
Its a shame and disgrace for a Coaching Staff to allow team get BEAT by ONE PLAYER!
Note: Each time White and Tapley trapped Fredette, he lost the
ball. Note: Each time Fredette had more than one Aztec coming to help on defense, he lost the ball. Bottomline, Fredette is no
different than any other player in America. When defensive pressure is applied, he has the propensity to make mistakes and force ill-advised shots!
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Post by fightnaztec on Jan 26, 2011 22:44:28 GMT -8
How about Tanya Harding on Fredette? DONE......
Yeah Fredette thought he was shooting at a garbage can,,,,,,,,,simply incredible.
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Post by untitled on Jan 26, 2011 22:48:39 GMT -8
If we had done anything on offense in the second half it'd have been a lot closer. The guys just looked so worn out from the lack of hemoglobin or whatever. I think it'll be a different story when they come to SDSU.
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Post by ned4 on Jan 26, 2011 22:50:44 GMT -8
First of all, BYU deserves credit for sticking to their game plan ( give the ball to Fredette and allow him to take all the shots)! Aztecs Coaching Staff has watched Fredette and BYU's offensive and defensive schemes for at least the last four years. So, why put your weakest defender on the Nation and Conference leading scorer? And, to add insult to injury, why would you continue to allow your weakest defender guard Fredette after he scores all of his team's points? Why not double-team/trap Fredette and get the ball out of his hand? WOW! It was a great revelation to put Aztecs best defensive player, Billy White, on Fredette, but it was too late! As poorly as the Aztecs played, they still had chances to win the game. Hopefully, this game will be a learning experience for the Aztecs players and Coaching Staff because I guarantee you that BYU is going to contend for the League and Tournament Titles! You making posts like you know more than a coaching staff that won the first 20 games of the season was an even worse decision. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 23:31:55 GMT -8
First of all, BYU deserves credit for sticking to their game plan ( give the ball to Fredette and allow him to take all the shots)! Aztecs Coaching Staff has watched Fredette and BYU's offensive and defensive schemes for at least the last four years. So, why put your weakest defender on the Nation and Conference leading scorer? And, to add insult to injury, why would you continue to allow your weakest defender guard Fredette after he scores all of his team's points? Why not double-team/trap Fredette and get the ball out of his hand? WOW! It was a great revelation to put Aztecs best defensive player, Billy White, on Fredette, but it was too late! As poorly as the Aztecs played, they still had chances to win the game. Hopefully, this game will be a learning experience for the Aztecs players and Coaching Staff because I guarantee you that BYU is going to contend for the League and Tournament Titles! You are the most uninformed poster on this board and that is saying a great deal. Take your hs point guard knowledge and go away..... |
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Post by aztecrandy on Jan 26, 2011 23:44:52 GMT -8
Fredette's unguardable. Billy did a great job on Fredette for two minutes, then he was so gassed, he asked out of the game. Jimmer is just a freak. Dude is the best college hoops player (non-big man) I've seen in maybe a decade. Maybe more. Kemba and Sullinger are both very good. But Jimmer is just on another planet. By non-big man do you mean non-guard? I think Jimmer is a great player, but I could come up with a lot of 3's and 4's over the past decade that I would rather have. Unless you're going strictly on PPG. |
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Post by guyledouche on Jan 26, 2011 23:47:25 GMT -8
Trap and Double Team Fredette and watch how many points he score. I guarantee you that he will not score 30! So, what he passes the ball to another teammate and teammate may or may not score. I would rather watch Davies, Hartsock, Collinsworth, Abuo and Emery take more shots than Fredette! Its a shame and disgrace for a Coaching Staff to allow team get BEAT by ONE PLAYER! Note: Each time White and Tapley trapped Fredette, he lost the ball. Note: Each time Fredette had more han one Aztec coming to help on defense, he lost the ball. Bottomline, Fredette is no different than any other player in America. When defensive pressure is applied, he has the propensity to make mistakes and force ill-advised shots! Awful post, just terrible. |
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Post by Aztec Empire on Jan 27, 2011 2:15:58 GMT -8
I don't condone this strategy, although I do believe Gay on Fredette wasn't the right move.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 27, 2011 6:05:58 GMT -8
I don't condone this strategy, although I do believe Gay on Fredette wasn't the right move. Fisher is known for doubling the post in the past, I guess Miner wanted to double the shooter. Fershit, Davies & Hardsuck scored enough to win it. SDSU just couldn't shoot worth a cr@p when it counted in the 2nd half. That 9 minute dry spell was something they haven't done for a long while. Gotta get over it and scheme for the zoobs in Viejas. |
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Post by fantaztec on Jan 27, 2011 8:00:21 GMT -8
I don't question our effort but at what point do we double Jimmer every time down the floor? How many points does he score before we change our approach? 30? 35? 40?
At half i was screaming at the tv to have gay and tapley double him and let macolm
Billy and kawhi play a 3 man zone. Do you all see how Jimmer centric their offense is? They literally stand and will throw him the ball and just watch. I'd make byus other guys have to have career games to beat us.
We didn't make enough shots to win for sure. But when we doubled Jimmer late he still tried to shoot and took bad shots.
It sucks they are leaving the conference next year without him cuz they will suck without him.
His teammates, at some level, have got to be like "43 points and no assists? Thanks man."
Can't wait to play them here.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 27, 2011 8:04:44 GMT -8
His teammates basically don't care that he is the O for the squad. All they want to do is see W's and hang on for the ride.
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Post by Rider Of Rahon on Jan 27, 2011 8:21:49 GMT -8
First of all, BYU deserves credit for sticking to their game plan ( give the ball to Fredette and allow him to take all the shots)! Aztecs Coaching Staff has watched Fredette and BYU's offensive and defensive schemes for at least the last four years. So, why put your weakest defender on the Nation and Conference leading scorer? And, to add insult to injury, why would you continue to allow your weakest defender guard Fredette after he scores all of his team's points? Why not double-team/trap Fredette and get the ball out of his hand? WOW! It was a great revelation to put Aztecs best defensive player, Billy White, on Fredette, but it was too late! As poorly as the Aztecs played, they still had chances to win the game. Hopefully, this game will be a learning experience for the Aztecs players and Coaching Staff because I guarantee you that BYU is going to contend for the League and Tournament Titles! You making posts like you know more than a coaching staff that won the first 20 games of the season was an even worse decision. +1 |
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Jan 27, 2011 8:28:50 GMT -8
I stopped reading at "schemes"
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 27, 2011 8:38:38 GMT -8
I think you don't put Gay on Fredette because Gay is a bad defender, but because we need him to run the offense and play virtually all 40 minutes. I think DJ was totally gassed all night trying to keep Jimmer under control, and that was a big reason why he never got much going offensively.
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