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Post by aztech on Mar 25, 2024 12:19:01 GMT -8
Problem with Utah State is that they hire young up and coming coaches that have zero ties to the program. You’ll probably get success but you are just a stop on where they want to go. Eventually they’ll swing and miss because it’s hard to knock it out of the park so many times in a row. UNLV did a smart thing. There were struggles but things are looking better now. SJSU make a good hire who’s not going to be jumping. They just need to invest into the program. UNM should have Pitino for a few years of success because he had his chance and failed. Don’t go find the next Big 10 coach. USU needs to find a guy who loves the program and city and has been a part of it or a guy who had his shot at a big job and just wants to have a stable career now. They need a guy who isn't looking for a stepping stone and wants to plant roots. Difficult place to recruit to. Sprinkle practically took all of his staff from Montana State to USU. Makes me wonder if one stays as the USU HC, if offered. After all USU is an upgrade compared to Montana State. If they all stick with Sprinkle and he struggles in the Big, then they can kiss off any hopes of getting a HC job in another major program. So sometimnes loyalty can bite you in the ass.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 12:25:43 GMT -8
Osobor has no heart. He quit in the first half yesterday Yeah, he looked out of it. Just the opposite of Ledee.
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Post by survalli on Mar 25, 2024 12:27:12 GMT -8
he is a good fit for Washington. if im USU, i try for the GCU or San Jose coaches.
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Post by oldie on Mar 25, 2024 12:56:49 GMT -8
nil lets players bounce from team to team yearly. looks like there's something similar for coaches. wonder how much nil dollars u.w. has set aside to buy a team.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 13:07:06 GMT -8
They need a guy who isn't looking for a stepping stone and wants to plant roots. Difficult place to recruit to. Sprinkle practically took all of his staff from Montana State to USU. Makes me wonder if one stays as the USU HC, if offered. After all USU is an upgrade compared to Montana State. If they all stick with Sprinkle and he struggles in the Big, then they can kiss off any hopes of getting a HC job in another major program. So sometimnes loyalty can bite you in the ass. Yeah, that's going to be an interesting dilemma because the competition is about to step up once again.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 13:07:38 GMT -8
he is a good fit for Washington. if im USU, i try for the GCU or San Jose coaches. Not sure why Drew would leave GCU.
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Post by survalli on Mar 25, 2024 13:10:12 GMT -8
he is a good fit for Washington. if im USU, i try for the GCU or San Jose coaches. Not sure why Drew would leave GCU. like it or not MWC is considered step up in the coaching world versus the conference GCU is in.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2024 13:17:36 GMT -8
Not sure why Drew would leave GCU. like it or not MWC is considered step up in the coaching world versus the conference GCU is in. The conference, yes. The school? Not so sure. GCU is a pretty unique environment with a ton of resources.
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Post by standiego on Mar 25, 2024 16:17:36 GMT -8
would be interesting to see if a P6 program came and had the money to pay him and Nil money for players If he would go there or wait until next season
GCU is the upcoming Money program for Non P6 schools - They have a lot of money for the Coaches and players - advanced pretty far this season and will bring in even more from the Portal next season
Have a great fan base - tough place for opposing teams to win
Play in a major City in a warm climate so will draw the players from the Portal after the MM exposure this year
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Post by heuschele on Mar 25, 2024 16:25:14 GMT -8
Yeah, but it was a no brainer that they were going to be good. The hype was already there with those two. He also had Mason Falslev coming back who ended up starting every game, and averaged 11 points. I mean Osobor was Player of the Year. I'm glad he's gone as well. Not taking anything away from him. He did an incredible job. Just putting a little perspective to it. Everything is a no brainer. Got it. The team was literally picked ninth in the Mountain West preseason poll, so the brains didn't agree with your surface level analysis. Agree. No brainer to who. MWC picked them 9th. Las Vegas had them as a long shot. If @johnaztec knew, he could have made bank putting his money on Utah State. I no no one that picked Utah State to win MWC. 3 div 1 teams had zero returning points. 2 of those teams were bad; Utah state won the conference and a NCAA tournament game. It is my belief if the got the match up the Aztecs got, that they would have 2 ncaa wins. Sprinkle did great. I believe strong coaches help the league but make it more difficult for the Aztecs to win the conference and can result in a 5th place finish.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 23:08:55 GMT -8
Everything is a no brainer. Got it. The team was literally picked ninth in the Mountain West preseason poll, so the brains didn't agree with your surface level analysis. Agree. No brainer to who. MWC picked them 9th. Las Vegas had them as a long shot. If @johnaztec knew, he could have made bank putting his money on Utah State. I no no one that picked Utah State to win MWC. 3 div 1 teams had zero returning points. 2 of those teams were bad; Utah state won the conference and a NCAA tournament game. It is my belief if the got the match up the Aztecs got, that they would have 2 ncaa wins. Sprinkle did great. I believe strong coaches help the league but make it more difficult for the Aztecs to win the conference and can result in a 5th place finish. Oh boy, ANOTHER one I have to spell it out to. I NEVER said that they were destined for a great year, or ever thought that they would have the kind of year they had. I only said that he had two good players coming with him, coupled with the returning Falsev, to form a good foundation. I also said that Sprinkle did an incredible job. Nothing more, nothing less. Are you another one with reading comprehension issues? Sheesh.
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Post by heuschele on Mar 25, 2024 23:19:24 GMT -8
Agree. No brainer to who. MWC picked them 9th. Las Vegas had them as a long shot. If @johnaztec knew, he could have made bank putting his money on Utah State. I no no one that picked Utah State to win MWC. 3 div 1 teams had zero returning points. 2 of those teams were bad; Utah state won the conference and a NCAA tournament game. It is my belief if the got the match up the Aztecs got, that they would have 2 ncaa wins. Sprinkle did great. I believe strong coaches help the league but make it more difficult for the Aztecs to win the conference and can result in a 5th place finish. Oh boy, ANOTHER one I have to spell it out to. I NEVER said that they were destined for a great year. I only said that he had two good players coming with him, coupled with the returning Falsev, as a good foundation . Nothing more, nothing less. Are you another one with reading comprehension issues? Sheesh. Maybe you did not indicate they would be great but direct quote “ Yeah, but it was a no brainer that they were going to be good.” The MWC coaches did not think they were going to be good (unless you think 9th place is good). The book makers did not think they would be good. The 2 other d1 teams that returned zero points were very bad. As indicated, if you thought they were going to be good you could have made bank. You likely could have got good odds even betting on them finishing in the top 3.. This is because virtually no one expected them to be good.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2024 23:24:15 GMT -8
Oh boy, ANOTHER one I have to spell it out to. I NEVER said that they were destined for a great year. I only said that he had two good players coming with him, coupled with the returning Falsev, as a good foundation . Nothing more, nothing less. Are you another one with reading comprehension issues? Sheesh. Maybe you did not indicate they would be great but direct quote “ Yeah, but it was a no brainer that they were going to be good.” The MWC coaches did not think they were going to be good (unless you think 9th place is good). The book makers did not think they would be good. The 2 other d1 teams that returned zero points were very bad. As indicated, if you thought they were going to be good you could have made bank. You likely could have got good odds even betting on them finishing in the top 3.. This is because virtually no one expected them to be good. You must like to take things out of context, or you're only reading snippets of what I said. Look at all of my posts here. I NEVER said that I knew the team was going to be great, or even good. I said that the two PLAYERS were going to be good. I only talked about the players. I did not say the TEAM was going to be good. Sprinkle himself praised those two players. That doesn't mean that the TEAM was going to be good. Two players don't make a team, but it's a good FOUNDATION, and that's all I was talking about. Sprinkle and his staff did the rest and put it all together.
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Post by heuschele on Mar 25, 2024 23:33:30 GMT -8
Maybe you did not indicate they would be great but direct quote “ Yeah, but it was a no brainer that they were going to be good.” The MWC coaches did not think they were going to be good (unless you think 9th place is good). The book makers did not think they would be good. The 2 other d1 teams that returned zero points were very bad. As indicated, if you thought they were going to be good you could have made bank. You likely could have got good odds even betting on them finishing in the top 3.. This is because virtually no one expected them to be good. You must like to take things out of context, or you're only reading snippets of what I said. I said that the two PLAYERS were going to be good. I did not say the TEAM was going to be good. Sprinkle himself praised those two players. That doesn't mean that the TEAM was going to be good. Two players don't make a team, but it's a good FOUNDATION, and that's all I was talking about. In the context the “they” was not clear and I initially believed (and apparently was not the only one) that you were referring to the team. Reading it now, I can see how it could have, and apparently was, the players. My misinterpretation was accidental. I do not know how many expected those two players to be good, but I did not see any of them highly regarded by the coaches at forecasted all league teams. Going from memory, I believe waters was projected to be newcomer of the year by the coaches. So again I question who thought it no brainer that these players were going to be nearly as good as they were? Maybe/probably coach Sprinkle. Virtually no one else. Go Aztecs
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 26, 2024 0:02:01 GMT -8
You must like to take things out of context, or you're only reading snippets of what I said. I said that the two PLAYERS were going to be good. I did not say the TEAM was going to be good. Sprinkle himself praised those two players. That doesn't mean that the TEAM was going to be good. Two players don't make a team, but it's a good FOUNDATION, and that's all I was talking about. In the context the “they” was not clear and I initially believed (and apparently was not the only one) that you were referring to the team. Reading it now, I can see how it could have, and apparently was, the players. My misinterpretation was accidental. I do not know how many expected those two players to be good, but I did not see any of them highly regarded by the coaches at forecasted all league teams. Going from memory, I believe waters was projected to be newcomer of the year by the coaches. So again I question who thought it no brainer that these players were going to be nearly as good as they were? Maybe/probably coach Sprinkle. Virtually no one else. Go Aztecs Ok. I can see how you could misinterpret that. It's all good. No one else in the MWC knew much about them, but Sprinkle and his staff knew what he had, since he saw them everyday. Again, like I've said, it only provided him with a good foundation. Nothing more, nothing less. He brought in more good players, and did an incredible job with that team. He deserves the pay raise. Yes, go Aztecs!!! I'm focusing on that now.
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Post by LostAztec on Mar 26, 2024 6:01:16 GMT -8
Just sucks for Utah St that every time they get a coach that gets them to the tourney they immediately leave for greener pastures. Hard to build a sustainable program that way. Would be nice if coaches committed to at least three years when they are hired but that's never going to happen. Logan is a unique Town and Culture. One needs to be okay with living and working in a still remote location. Coupled with USU being the Public U version of BYU makes it a tough place to attract and retain non-white and non-LDS talent. There best long term bet is a guy like Stew Morrill who loves small town Colleges and is LDS. Or, at least comfortable in the LDS world. I live in Ogden and one of my grandkids got a full ride Academic Scholly to USU. He only lasted one semester before coming home and registering at Weber State. The culture was overly LDS with not many Social options for us Gentiles.
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Post by LostAztec on Mar 26, 2024 6:09:40 GMT -8
he is a good fit for Washington. if im USU, i try for the GCU or San Jose coaches. Not sure why Drew would leave GCU. He's only making $400k and plying his trade trade in a declining WAC He will jump at the first good opportunity. Not just for the money.
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Post by aztecmusician on Mar 27, 2024 14:06:51 GMT -8
One little taste of success and this conference crumbles back into mediocrity.
Money talks and the MWC walks. At least these schools (Utah St, Colorado St, Nevada) seem to know who to hire.
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Post by standiego on Mar 27, 2024 14:54:39 GMT -8
The USU coach brought two Key players with him a good PF in Great O and the PG Brown - they were able to win a few very close games that they could have lost
Would guess that the Great O will go with him and maybe some other guys - then he will need to work the Portal
As for other good teams in the MW - does the selection group give the harsh message SDSU earned its way into MM by having a solid OOC - especially with the Win over the Zags - who have had a second life - led by Ike - they also just signed a high quality player from Pepperdine .
SDSU also played and beat another 5 seed St Mary's and lost to #5 BYU and also played at a good Grand Canyon
Yes the other MW teams were decent to good but - did not do what is required play a solid OOC
Do MW teams learn their lesson for next year
Can the Lobos keep most of their better players - same for other schools who had good records this season -
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Post by aztec1 on Mar 27, 2024 16:22:41 GMT -8
nil lets players bounce from team to team yearly. looks like there's something similar for coaches. wonder how much nil dollars u.w. has set aside to buy a team. The transfer portal lets players bounce from team to team, not NIL. NIL, helps makes the moves attractive but without the current portal environment moves would be way less frequent.
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