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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Mar 20, 2024 19:48:16 GMT -8
Is a good coach myth please. Now he’s 0-10 in the tournament. Gets lucky in the MWC but can’t make shots when it counts. So over people comparing Dutch to this steaming pile!
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 20, 2024 19:52:29 GMT -8
That game was played by the: "Clangs of Leon"!
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Post by azteclou on Mar 20, 2024 19:54:24 GMT -8
What a disappointment. Would have been nice for the Mountain West teams to go 2-0 in First Four. Boise picked an awful time for all of their scorers to disappear….
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Post by junior on Mar 20, 2024 20:13:15 GMT -8
Colorado handled them well. Close game until it wasn't at the end. Boozie St just doesn't have what it takes to move forward on a big stage. Even though it was a play-in game. Rice now looks pretty foolish to have made statements about respect.
Maybe he needs to reconcile the fact that his team has never shown it can play a game in the NCAAT without losing it before he starts going off on the NCAAT committee because they they were right. Boozie St. barely belonged in the tournament, and tonight's game proved it to all.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Mar 20, 2024 20:55:08 GMT -8
I don't know, the coach can't put the ball in the basket. Boise should have won that game. They held the best three point shooting team in the Pac 12 to 27% on threes and just 60 points. 18 points below their average. Boise just could NOT finish at the rim and had a really bad turnover at the 5:00 mark. I feel like they outplayed Colorado, but lost the game.
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Post by Gundo on Mar 20, 2024 21:25:29 GMT -8
What a disappointment. Would have been nice for the Mountain West teams to go 2-0 in the First Four. Boise picked an awful time for all of their scorers to disappear…. Degenhart 3 of 10 in 30 minutes, Stanley 1 of 9, 30 minutes, Rice 1 of 9, 28 minutes. 5 of 28 shots = 18%. Boozy State lost against UNM and Colorado to finish up 22-11, losing 3 of 4 in their last 4 games. - 77-68 Lost, Nevada - 79-77 Win, OT, SDSU - 77-66 Lost, UNM - 60-53 Lost, Colorado Looks like the pundits and committee may have been right, this time.
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Post by longtimebooster on Mar 21, 2024 4:50:50 GMT -8
Even though it was a play-in game. Rice now looks pretty foolish to have made statements about respect. Compare that to Medved at CSU. He was asked a few times about the committee's respect, or lack thereof. Each time, he didn't take the bait. Said something like, "Hey, we're in the NCAA Tournament. We're excited to be here. How could you not be excited? Our goal is to win and move on. And that's all we're focused on."
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Post by jpaztec on Mar 21, 2024 5:02:30 GMT -8
Can’t really put this on Rice, they had a TON of open looks and his guys just couldn’t convert. Now if you want to say he didn’t have them prepared, or in the right headspace for a one and done on a national stage, I might buy that. But his scheme was good, they played great defense, his guys were in a good position, they just didn’t have the poise or talent to finish the game. Very unfortunate. Good program, but certainly not a great program.
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Post by LostAztec on Mar 21, 2024 6:36:50 GMT -8
I don't know, the coach can't put the ball in the basket. Boise should have won that game. They held the best three point shooting team in the Pac 12 to 27% on threes and just 60 points. 18 points below their average. Boise just could NOT finish at the rim and had a really bad turnover at the 5:00 mark. I feel like they outplayed Colorado, but lost the game. Boozy won the rebounding battle. Bigly. Until the last three mins when they turned into a clown car show, they had a big margin in turnovers and points off turnovers. They took a lot of bad shots in the second half. When they did get good shots, threes or at the rim, it seemed as if someone had put a lid on the basket. Leon is a good Coach. It's not his fault his team went ice cold and took poor shots. His best move was to take his kid out of the game with four fouls. Boozy got themselves back into the game. His worst move was putting his kid back into the game. The last four minutes Boozy did their best Keystone Cops imitation.
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Post by docmm on Mar 21, 2024 6:44:16 GMT -8
Is a good coach myth please. Now he’s 0-10 in the tournament. Gets lucky in the MWC but can’t make shots when it counts. So over people comparing Dutch to this steaming pile! Boise State is 0-10 in the Tournament, Leon is "just" 0-5. In 4 of his 5 games, they've been the worse seed, two 10s, an 11 and a 13. When they were an 8, they lost to a #9 Memphis. I don't like his style but I think he's a pretty good coach. They've beaten us 6 of the last 7 times they played us. That has to mean something.
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Mar 21, 2024 6:55:02 GMT -8
Is a good coach myth please. Now he’s 0-10 in the tournament. Gets lucky in the MWC but can’t make shots when it counts. So over people comparing Dutch to this steaming pile! Boise State is 0-10 in the Tournament, Leon is "just" 0-5. In 4 of his 5 games, they've been the worse seed, two 10s, an 11 and a 13. When they were an 8, they lost to a #9 Memphis. I don't like his style but I think he's a pretty good coach. They've beaten us 6 of the last 7 times they played us. That has to mean something. If nothing else, it puts them in a position to get on the right side of the bubble by Selection Sunday.
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Mar 21, 2024 7:21:35 GMT -8
I mean, Boise would have beaten Virginia. Perhaps Boise’s bad luck was their draw in the play-in game.
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Post by smoothcat on Mar 21, 2024 7:33:48 GMT -8
I told you they need to stop whining about their seeding.
As I predicted, without terrible MWC Officiating, these guys have no chance.
They shot 6 FT's in this game, when they play the Aztecs it is a non-stop parade to the FT Line which leads to "close" wins.
These guys should be banned from the NCAA Tournament forever and Little Leon and his hippie son have some explaining to do.
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Post by jpaztec on Mar 21, 2024 7:46:11 GMT -8
Also, one thing that struck me through the first two play in games and how it relates to us...I think it showed how damn tough our league is defensively. We scored a lot of points in the non-conference, like 80-ish a night, then we get to league play and all of a sudden points are at a premium and the AM haters think we just suck on offense. We just watched two conference members hold two at large P-5 tournament programs to ridiculously low point totals, and it kinda makes think it isn't necessarily our offense that has sucked so much as the defensive prowess of our league.
I think that's a main difference between the MWC and say the Pac 12 or the ACC or what have you. They win on offensive talent with 4-5 star guys, we win on defense and grit and toughness of the under recruited 2-3 star guys that have a chip on their shoulder. Hard part with that is if one of us has an exceptionally off night and only scores 50 points, it probably just ain't enough. I feel like Nevada and UNM are in a great position to advance this year because they do have some high major transfers that can flat out put it in the damn bucket.
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Post by heuschele on Mar 21, 2024 7:48:11 GMT -8
I feel blaming the coach might be acceptable for the late collapse. Otherwise no.
Before that I saw Boise miss many decent to good shots. I saw Colorado have more than its fair share of breaks. I feared for a moment that they had got back to back unset, shot clock beating 3s.
The officiating was slightly too one sided, but not so bad that I would call it horrendous.
I felt before the end of game collapse that Boise had played well enough to have a larger lead than it had. This was with multiple Boise shooters having off days or the hoop rejecting virtually every shot it could.
I would feel more sorry for Boise if they did not collapse at the end of the game. That was crunch time, not choke time.
I believe Leon Rice is a good coach. I believe BSU has never had an easy first game. I suspect there is some jitters involved.
I keep seeing reference to the MWC post season ineptness, but seeding and match ups play a big role. MWC teams virtually always have been seeded in the bottom half of the seeding. It is significantly more challenging to win in the lower half of the seeding than in the upper half of the seeding.
Go MWC.
Go Aztecs!
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Post by docmm on Mar 21, 2024 7:52:52 GMT -8
I feel blaming the coach might be acceptable for the late collapse. Otherwise no. Before that I saw Boise miss many decent to good shots. I saw Colorado have more than its fair share of breaks. I feared for a moment that they had got back to back unset, shot clock beating 3s. The officiating was slightly too one sided, but not so bad that I would call it horrendous. I felt before the end of game collapse that Boise had played well enough to have a larger lead than it had. This was with multiple Boise shooters having off days or the hoop rejecting virtually every shot it could. I would feel more sorry for Boise if they did not collapse at the end of the game. That was crunch time, not choke time. I believe Leon Rice is a good coach. I believe BSU has never had an easy first game. I suspect there is some jitters involved. I keep seeing reference to the MWC post season ineptness, but seeding and match ups play a big role. MWC teams virtually always have been seeded in the bottom half of the seeding. It is significantly more challenging to win in the lower half of the seeding than in the upper half of the seeding. Go MWC. Go Aztecs! True Dat
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Post by vision on Mar 21, 2024 7:53:28 GMT -8
Is a good coach myth please. Now he’s 0-10 in the tournament. Gets lucky in the MWC but can’t make shots when it counts. So over people comparing Dutch to this steaming pile! Boise State is 0-10 in the Tournament, Leon is "just" 0-5. In 4 of his 5 games, they've been the worse seed, two 10s, an 11 and a 13. When they were an 8, they lost to a #9 Memphis. I don't like his style but I think he's a pretty good coach. They've beaten us 6 of the last 7 times they played us. That has to mean something. CAn we not forget that SDSU was o-fer in the tournament for a while. its hard. half the teams lose every game.
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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Mar 21, 2024 9:24:46 GMT -8
Boise State is 0-10 in the Tournament, Leon is "just" 0-5. In 4 of his 5 games, they've been the worse seed, two 10s, an 11 and a 13. When they were an 8, they lost to a #9 Memphis. I don't like his style but I think he's a pretty good coach. They've beaten us 6 of the last 7 times they played us. That has to mean something. CAn we not forget that SDSU was o-fer in the tournament for a while. its hard. half the teams lose every game. I just can’t give Leon a pass for allowing his son Max to shoot ill advised luck shots all over the court and then when they don’t go in they say they just couldn’t make shots. Max had 2 and Degenhart had 6. These are your two best players. If people are going to give Dutcher grief for our offense and point to Rice repeatedly as a good coach who Dutcher could learn offense from he needs to be called out. Prior to last year Dutcher was being called out unfairly on AM. They would be calling for Rice head here if records were reversed.
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Post by aztecdan8 on Mar 21, 2024 10:19:13 GMT -8
CAn we not forget that SDSU was o-fer in the tournament for a while. its hard. half the teams lose every game. I just can’t give Leon a pass for allowing his son Max to shoot ill advised luck shots all over the court and then when they don’t go in they say they just couldn’t make shots. Max had 2 and Degenhart had 6. These are your two best players. If people are going to give Dutcher grief for our offense and point to Rice repeatedly as a good coach who Dutcher could learn offense from he needs to be called out. Prior to last year Dutcher was being called out unfairly on AM. They would be calling for Rice head here if records were reversed. We get it. You don’t like Leon Rice or his son. Sorta sounds oddly personal
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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Mar 21, 2024 11:13:17 GMT -8
Not personal. Just business.
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