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Post by Gundo on Dec 10, 2023 11:27:50 GMT -8
Cameron Harpole 6'4 225 TE commits to Arizona State in the new Big 12.
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Post by fowl on Dec 10, 2023 11:30:02 GMT -8
Dez Malone to Oklahoma
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Post by Gundo on Dec 10, 2023 11:30:54 GMT -8
Dez Malone 6'2 180 CB commits to Oklahoma in the SEC.
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Post by standiego on Dec 10, 2023 16:27:38 GMT -8
would guess the former Aztecs jumped on those P5 offers as quickly as they could
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Post by aztecron on Dec 10, 2023 17:02:59 GMT -8
Some of these guys in the portal have multiple P5 offers each. It wasn't 100 percent weak talent, in my opinion, it landed moreso on the last coaching staff not coaching them up enough as the issues
And NIL I suppose as well. You can't tell me Malone going to Oklahoma in the SEC was part of the problem here. I mean as you see up above, Harpole to ASU in the BIG-12 means he's an athlete that we might not have properly coached up and used properly while here.
Cannot wait for Coach Lewis and staff to put their fingerprints on this roster moving forward.
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Post by jp92grad on Dec 10, 2023 18:47:19 GMT -8
Some of these guys in the portal have multiple P5 offers each. It wasn't 100 percent weak talent, in my opinion, it landed moreso on the last coaching staff not coaching them up enough as the issues And NIL I suppose as well. You can't tell me Malone going to Oklahoma in the SEC was part of the problem here. I mean as you see up above, Harpole to ASU in the BIG-12 means he's an athlete that we might not have properly coached up and used properly while here. Cannot wait for Coach Lewis and staff to put their fingerprints on this roster moving forward. Come on people, what else do you need to see to tell you what a poor job this last staff did on evaluating and developing talent. They also were poor in game day prep and game planning (not a real good combo) This new staff is a breath of fresh air (soo far!) Lets go Aztecs! |
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Post by laaztec on Dec 10, 2023 18:47:36 GMT -8
Cameron Harpole 6'4 225 TE commits to Arizona State in the new Big 12. ASU was horrible last season. They need all the help they can get. Out the frying pan into the fire. |
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Post by Gundo on Dec 10, 2023 19:28:37 GMT -8
So did we have bad coaching, bad recruiting, bad development, bad players, bad decision-making, or just bad luck?
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Post by hoobs on Dec 10, 2023 19:30:27 GMT -8
So did we have bad coaching, bad recruiting, bad development, bad players, bad decision-making, or just bad luck? Yes |
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Post by Gundo on Dec 10, 2023 19:34:54 GMT -8
So did we have bad coaching, bad recruiting, bad development, bad players, bad decision-making, or just bad luck? Yes Is Lewis the solution? Maybe, but the momentum needs to change, and is. The dream of the PAC12 and/or BIG XII is dead, and I think we all drank the cool aid that we deserved to be a P5 (P4) school. There is more work to do. |
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Post by laaztec on Dec 10, 2023 19:53:53 GMT -8
So did we have bad coaching, bad recruiting, bad development, bad players, bad decision-making, or just bad luck? Yes Exactly, all of the above. It was a total team effort to tank the program. |
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Post by jp92grad on Dec 10, 2023 21:34:27 GMT -8
So did we have bad coaching, bad recruiting, bad development, bad players, bad decision-making, or just bad luck? I would not say Bad Players, I would say first BAD evaluation and then BAD development of players! (coaching starts with evaluation and development) |
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Post by standiego on Dec 11, 2023 8:20:40 GMT -8
do agree that development was not that good
as for talent Aztecs normally get 3 or 2 star recruits that the staff hopes to help develop ( Aztecs also get Walk ons that either have better talent or work harder ? )
SDSU does not usually get the highly acclaimed players that are projected to start or be major contributors as freshmen
unfortunately BRADY made some poor hires especially the OC for Brady's return and Brady did not have the fire from within to take on the HC position - he also did not like the Portal - so things went down hill
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Post by Gundo on Dec 11, 2023 11:21:25 GMT -8
Cade Bennet to TCU, is looking to play on Sundays. A sad period for Aztec football, watching a team that went 4-8, lose 20 players to larger P4/P5 conferences.
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Post by hoobs on Dec 11, 2023 11:45:04 GMT -8
Cade Bennet to TCU, is looking to play on Sundays. A sad period for Aztec football, watching a team that went 4-8, lose 20 players to larger P4/P5 conferences. "Sad period for Aztec football" ?? With the coaching change, I haven't been this excited about Aztec football in a long time. Players are going to come & go, esp. with coaching changes. It's just part of college football now, folks need to get used to it. |
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Post by missiontrails on Dec 11, 2023 12:03:55 GMT -8
Sure, poor coaching may have something to do with it, but I'll bet anything NIL money has A LOT more to do with this. Looking at another sport, since we know we have a great MBB staff, do you think Keshad Johnson transferred to a highly successful P5 program because he had P5 talent but was poorly coached? You can apply that to football as well. The MWC and other G5 conferences are all screwed in the current environment.
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Post by fowl on Dec 11, 2023 12:59:14 GMT -8
TCU runs the exact same offense Lewis runs so it wasn't offensive scheme.
I'll take an N and an L. I'd like buy a vowel, an I. Pat I'd like to solve the puzzle.
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Post by sdcoug on Dec 11, 2023 13:04:07 GMT -8
Sure, poor coaching may have something to do with it, but I'll bet anything NIL money has A LOT more to do with this. Looking at another sport, since we know we have a great MBB staff, do you think Keshad Johnson transferred to a highly successful P5 program because he had P5 talent but was poorly coached? You can apply that to football as well. The MWC and other G5 conferences are all screwed in the current environment. And our FB NIL pales in comparison to our BB NIL. Plus, not getting into a P5 hurts FB more than BB. In BB, we play several P6 schools over the course of the year, it takes fewer good players to be great, and we have a shot at the natty, as proven last year. More teams have a shot. In FB, if you're not P4 you have no realistic shot at a natty, even though they did provide a breadcrumb & said 1 G5 gets a shot against what will typically be the #5 ranked team. Then you get #4, then likely #1. Good luck with your G5 depth holding up... I'd also say a lack of familiarity with the new staff comes into play. When you know your role & are comfortable with it moving forward, it's harder to want to leave to more of an unknown. Now, however, it's an unknown whether you stay or go, so why stay (& pass up NIL)? |
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Post by standiego on Dec 11, 2023 13:46:51 GMT -8
Schools be it P5 or G5 want experienced players so if a G5 player has gotten the playing experience they are going to see if they can get an offer from a P5 school
Busiest job lately for the football staff - might be the person who is in charge of keeping up with the Roster - is there an area for TBD
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Post by Gundo on Dec 11, 2023 14:11:50 GMT -8
Cade Bennet to TCU, is looking to play on Sundays. A sad period for Aztec football, watching a team that went 4-8, lose 20 players to larger P4/P5 conferences. "Sad period for Aztec football" ?? With the coaching change, I haven't been this excited about Aztec football in a long time. Players are going to come & go, esp. with coaching changes. It's just part of college football now, folks need to get used to it. When I said "sad", it referred to the loss of good players in the portal due to: N.I.L., change/poor coaching/development, greater exposure, and/or a chance to play in the NFL, either way, it feels like we continued to be left behind. The demise of the PAC, and the exodus of western schools to the Big XII, B1G, and ACC leaves little options for MWC & G5s. The NCAA may allow the Top 30-50 to grow into the Super CFA league, more for the "haves", less for the "have-nots", and a bigger divide amongst all schools & programs. Even with a new SDSU FB staff, it feels like the top schools move on, the mid-levels and lower-levels take the hit. Maybe I am wrong, but we all are running out of years, and decades to see an elevation in the football program. |
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