|
|
Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2022 14:47:59 GMT -8
OK, season's over, Pads yet again didn't get it done.
So what do they need to do? What moves to they need to make to put it all together.
This team clearly had holes and weak spots, even after all the deadline deals were done.
I'd say it's obvious that Grisham, Bell, and Clevinger need to go. Bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. (Bell did fairly well in the playoffs, but he was still hit or miss, and his regular season with the Pads was awful.)
Who else should go?
To me, I'd think we need 2 new staring pitchers, a first baseman, and an outfielder who can hit.
It will be interesting to see what moves Preller makes. He's got a lot of work to do.
|
|
|
|
Post by survalli on Oct 23, 2022 15:08:15 GMT -8
not sure how much money they are going to have but, they will need an outfielder and a 1st baseman.
|
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 15:20:37 GMT -8
OK, season's over, Pads yet again didn't get it done. So what do they need to do? What moves to they need to make to put it all together. This team clearly had holes and weak spots, even after all the deadline deals were done. I'd say it's obvious that Grisham, Bell, and Clevinger need to go. Bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. (Bell did fairly well in the playoffs, but he was still hit or miss, and his regular season with the Pads was awful.) Who else should go? To me, I'd think we need 2 new staring pitchers, a first baseman, and an outfielder who can hit. It will be interesting to see what moves Preller makes. He's got a lot of work to do. Grisham isn't going anywhere. Cheap, under control and elite defensively. At worst he's a very valuable backup. Bell and Clevinger are both free agents. I'd expect them to investigate bringing Myers back if it's inexpensive. It's impossible really to speculate at this point because there are nearly a half dozen players with player options for next season that have to be sorted out. |
|
|
|
Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2022 15:27:53 GMT -8
Grisham's got to go. He was Mr. Automatic Out for most of the season, and after having good wild card and divisional series, he got zero hits in the LCS. When they needed him the most he failed miserably.
No reason to keep him. He's a massive offensive liability.
|
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 16:57:53 GMT -8
Grisham's got to go. He was Mr. Automatic Out for most of the season, and after having good wild card and divisional series, he got zero hits in the LCS. When they needed him the most he failed miserably. No reason to keep him. He's a massive offensive liability. Front offices do not base decisions based off one series or even one season. |
|
|
|
Post by docmm on Oct 23, 2022 17:34:36 GMT -8
Grisham's got to go. He was Mr. Automatic Out for most of the season, and after having good wild card and divisional series, he got zero hits in the LCS. When they needed him the most he failed miserably. No reason to keep him. He's a massive offensive liability. I hope someone publicly asks Melvin: a) why wouldn't you want your most clutch guy this season(Alfaro) up in the 9th with two on and the season on the line rather than Grisham who went hitless the entire series and was horrible for 96% of the entire year? b) and why on earth would Grisham bunt with one out? I'm sure he'd say it was to get a surprise base hit. And I'd say it just shows Grisham doesn't have the balls to come up big in a big moment because he was afraid he'd strike out yet again. He lost the 2019 Wild Card game for Milwaukee with an error in the bottom of the 8th that allowed the tieing and winning runs. He choked then and he choked this time too. His glove isn't worth his invisible bat. His hitting in the Mets series was an aberration. |
|
|
|
Post by junior on Oct 23, 2022 17:35:57 GMT -8
Grisham to L.A. They apparently could use a better centerfielder.
Pretty sure Doc and the crew could turn him into a superstar in rent a car.
It'll never happen here.
|
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 18:16:25 GMT -8
Grisham's got to go. He was Mr. Automatic Out for most of the season, and after having good wild card and divisional series, he got zero hits in the LCS. When they needed him the most he failed miserably. No reason to keep him. He's a massive offensive liability. I hope someone publicly asks Melvin: a) why wouldn't you want your most clutch guy this season(Alfaro) up in the 9th with two on and the season on the line rather than Grisham who went hitless the entire series and was horrible for 96% of the entire year? b) and why on earth would Grisham bunt with one out? I'm sure he'd say it was to get a surprise base hit. And I'd say it just shows Grisham doesn't have the balls to come up big in a big moment because he was afraid he'd strike out yet again. He lost the 2019 Wild Card game for Milwaukee with an error in the bottom of the 8th that allowed the tieing and winning runs. He choked then and he choked this time too. His glove isn't worth his invisible bat. His hitting in the Mets series was an aberration. This shouldn't be overly difficult. The idea of being "clutch" is a myth. Alfaro has a massive strikeout rate and struggles to put the ball in play. If you pull him and you somehow tie the game, who plays center field in the bottom half? Myers? You want to go to extra innings potentially in a playoff game in that park with that outfield combination? Melvin answered your second question - It was a hybrid sac/base hit attempt with Hoskins back at first base and the wet grass combined with a pretty good runner. Just didn't drag it past the pitcher down the line far enough. |
|
|
|
Post by sdsuball on Oct 23, 2022 18:21:41 GMT -8
I hope someone publicly asks Melvin: a) why wouldn't you want your most clutch guy this season(Alfaro) up in the 9th with two on and the season on the line rather than Grisham who went hitless the entire series and was horrible for 96% of the entire year? b) and why on earth would Grisham bunt with one out? I'm sure he'd say it was to get a surprise base hit. And I'd say it just shows Grisham doesn't have the balls to come up big in a big moment because he was afraid he'd strike out yet again. He lost the 2019 Wild Card game for Milwaukee with an error in the bottom of the 8th that allowed the tieing and winning runs. He choked then and he choked this time too. His glove isn't worth his invisible bat. His hitting in the Mets series was an aberration. Melvin answered your second question - It was a hybrid sac/base hit attempt with Hoskins back at first base and the wet grass combined with a pretty good runner. Just didn't drag it past the pitcher down the line far enough. That's what I thought it was, but I was surprised that Grisham waited to square up to bunt, versus employing a drag bunt technique. If that was a drag bunt he wins the footrace to first. |
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 18:24:49 GMT -8
Melvin answered your second question - It was a hybrid sac/base hit attempt with Hoskins back at first base and the wet grass combined with a pretty good runner. Just didn't drag it past the pitcher down the line far enough. That's what I thought it was, but I was surprised that Grisham waited to square up to bunt, versus employing a drag bunt technique. If that was a drag bunt he wins the footrace to first. You have to wait to square. That's what a drag bunt is. If you square early, the infield comes in and plays the ball. |
|
|
|
Post by sdsuball on Oct 23, 2022 18:27:18 GMT -8
That's what I thought it was, but I was surprised that Grisham waited to square up to bunt, versus employing a drag bunt technique. If that was a drag bunt he wins the footrace to first. You have to wait to square. That's what a drag bunt is. If you square early, the infield comes in and plays the ball. That's not what I meant though. I mean that when I've seen other people drag bunt, they start moving towards first quicker. Like they begin to move out of the batter's box as they hit the ball. |
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 18:32:31 GMT -8
You have to wait to square. That's what a drag bunt is. If you square early, the infield comes in and plays the ball. That's not what I meant though. I mean that when I've seen other people drag bunt, they start moving towards first quicker. Like they begin to move out of the batter's box as they hit the ball. Yeah, he just didn't get the good part of the bat on it. Happens. |
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 18:33:28 GMT -8
|
|
|
|
Post by junior on Oct 23, 2022 18:36:02 GMT -8
Whole lotta gas being expended on one lousy player's inept attempt to drop a simple bunt. He's done it before, he couldn't do it this time.
|
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Oct 23, 2022 18:46:17 GMT -8
Whole lotta gas being expended on one lousy player's inept attempt to drop a simple bunt. He's done it before, he couldn't do it this time. Yeah, my bigger issue is letting the right handed Suarez pitch to Harper, rather than Hader. I think we win the game if Hader comes in to finish it. He can get the required outs that were left and he's been throwing strikes. Lights out. |
|
|
|
Post by junior on Oct 23, 2022 18:55:02 GMT -8
Whole lotta gas being expended on one lousy player's inept attempt to drop a simple bunt. He's done it before, he couldn't do it this time. Yeah, my bigger issue is letting the right handed Suarez pitch to Harper, rather than Hader. I think we win the game if Hader comes in to finish it. He can get the required outs that were left and he's been throwing strikes. Lights out. I've been saying all season long that Suarez, er Suckez, was a liability. Yeah, he had some really good luck over the past few weeks. But too many times this season, he did exactly what happened today. Failed. Those things don't necessarily come out in the numbers, but they do come out in the wash. Someone's gotta be watching the situations as they unfold and putting these things together. |
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 19:16:50 GMT -8
Yeah, my bigger issue is letting the right handed Suarez pitch to Harper, rather than Hader. I think we win the game if Hader comes in to finish it. He can get the required outs that were left and he's been throwing strikes. Lights out. I've been saying all season long that Suarez, er Suckez, was a liability. Yeah, he had some really good luck over the past few weeks. But too many times this season, he did exactly what happened today. Failed. Those things don't necessarily come out in the numbers, but they do come out in the wash. Someone's gotta be watching the situations as they unfold and putting these things together. A liability? He had a 1.48 ERA in the second half of the season. He didn't allow a single run at Petco ALL YEAR during the regular season. Not one. That's not luck. That's dominance. Those things DO get reflected in the numbers, one way or another. Bryce Harper took a 99 MPH fastball on the outer half to the opposite field. He's an incredible hitter who just happens to be nuclear hot. Robert Suarez got out of first and third nobody out in crunch time against LA without giving up a run. His ERA in September/October was 0.00. Like...what. |
|
|
|
Post by sdsuball on Oct 23, 2022 19:41:03 GMT -8
I've been saying all season long that Suarez, er Suckez, was a liability. Yeah, he had some really good luck over the past few weeks. But too many times this season, he did exactly what happened today. Failed. Those things don't necessarily come out in the numbers, but they do come out in the wash. Someone's gotta be watching the situations as they unfold and putting these things together. A liability? He had a 1.48 ERA in the second half of the season. He didn't allow a single run at Petco ALL YEAR during the regular season. Not one. That's not luck. That's dominance. Those things DO get reflected in the numbers, one way or another. Bryce Harper took a 99 MPH fastball on the outer half to the opposite field. He's an incredible hitter who just happens to be nuclear hot. Robert Suarez got out of first and third nobody out in crunch time against LA without giving up a run. His ERA in September/October was 0.00. Like...what. Harper has been on a tear lately, no doubt. I still don't think that he catches up to that fastball if it's inside. Bad pitch placement. |
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 19:59:19 GMT -8
A liability? He had a 1.48 ERA in the second half of the season. He didn't allow a single run at Petco ALL YEAR during the regular season. Not one. That's not luck. That's dominance. Those things DO get reflected in the numbers, one way or another. Bryce Harper took a 99 MPH fastball on the outer half to the opposite field. He's an incredible hitter who just happens to be nuclear hot. Robert Suarez got out of first and third nobody out in crunch time against LA without giving up a run. His ERA in September/October was 0.00. Like...what. Harper has been on a tear lately, no doubt. I still don't think that he catches up to that fastball if it's inside. Bad pitch placement. Just the opposite. www.brooksbaseball.net/h_profile.php?player=547180&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=10/24/2022 |
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Oct 23, 2022 20:38:15 GMT -8
A liability? He had a 1.48 ERA in the second half of the season. He didn't allow a single run at Petco ALL YEAR during the regular season. Not one. That's not luck. That's dominance. Those things DO get reflected in the numbers, one way or another. Bryce Harper took a 99 MPH fastball on the outer half to the opposite field. He's an incredible hitter who just happens to be nuclear hot. Robert Suarez got out of first and third nobody out in crunch time against LA without giving up a run. His ERA in September/October was 0.00. Like...what. Harper has been on a tear lately, no doubt. I still don't think that he catches up to that fastball if it's inside. Bad pitch placement. You take zero chances in that situation. You bring in Hader to face Harper in that situation to save the season. It was all set up for Harper to crush one, and be the hero. He was going to see too many fastballs from the righty. Harper loves fastballs. It doesn't matter how fast they are unless it's against a nasty, left handed Josh Hader. We were all screaming at the TV asking, "Where's Hader?!!! No way Harper hits it out, or gets the barrel on it against him. I'm convinced of that. Bad decision by Melvin not to recognize that it was a do or die situation, and that you needed a nasty lefty pitching to Harper right there. If Hader comes in, we're back in San Diego. It's not even a hindsight is 20-20 deal. It was in front of Melvin's face. Not a happy camper in this household. |
|
