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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 12:41:39 GMT -8
Kudos to AJ for broaching this topic - Unfortunately, it seems like this will continue.
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Post by aardvark on May 13, 2022 13:38:35 GMT -8
Kudos to AJ for broaching this topic - Unfortunately, it seems like this will continue. Interesting. If it really does give you a better hop, wouldn't more 1st basemen be doing that?
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 13:44:24 GMT -8
Kudos to AJ for broaching this topic - Unfortunately, it seems like this will continue. Interesting. If it really does give you a better hop, wouldn't more 1st basemen be doing that? You'd think so. Also, getting the out more efficiently and quickly would involve ending the play faster. Seems like backwards logic and more egotism.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 16:11:19 GMT -8
Interesting. If it really does give you a better hop, wouldn't more 1st basemen be doing that? You'd think so. Also, getting the out more efficiently and quickly would involve ending the play faster. Seems like backwards logic and more egotism. Meanwhile, Hosmer's kicking ass at the plate and saving errors, and runs with his digs. I didn't like the way he stretched on that, but I don't know if he's made plays that way in the past, turning a short hop, into a long hop. Of course, you'll say it's ego, because you don't like him. You'll, instead, focus on this type of play, that rarely comes up that he likes to do, go to the lengths of putting quotes up about it, and call it ego. Hilarious.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 16:38:46 GMT -8
You'd think so. Also, getting the out more efficiently and quickly would involve ending the play faster. Seems like backwards logic and more egotism. Meanwhile, Hosmer's kicking ass at the plate and saving errors, and runs with his digs. I didn't like the way he stretched on that, but I don't know if he's made plays that way in the past, turning a short hop, into a long hop. Of course, you'll say it's ego, because you don't like him. You'll, instead, focus on this type of play, that rarely comes up that he likes to do, go to the lengths of putting quotes up about it, and call it ego. Hilarious. John, politely...this is really delusional. It clearly says in the article that he's going to continue to do the same thing he's done for years - Play into foul territory and play for the long hop. It doesn't work. I have no idea what errors he is "saving" but I do know on this play, he caused one. He's caused more than a few this year that he doesn't get charged with because he has poor footwork around the bag and pretty much always has. Here's the playoffs in 2020 against LA. He never even gets to the bag and then can't adjust to the throw. He goes into foul territory for no reason a lot, making an easy play more difficult. Here's the play from the other night, frame by frame. Look where the ball bounces. He could extend and catch this ball EASILY. Instead, Cronenworth makes a spectacular play and he gets charged with the error because the first baseman can't make the catch. The reason his ego was brought up is not because I "don't like him." It's because he's made repeated statements in the past that he's unwilling to adjust to the game for the benefit of his team. Whether it's elevating the ball, working out in San Diego in the offseason with the staff, his defense or anything else.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 16:45:11 GMT -8
Nice piece of hitting on a ball well below the zone there...so I don't get accused of being negative.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 16:49:58 GMT -8
Meanwhile, Hosmer's kicking ass at the plate and saving errors, and runs with his digs. I didn't like the way he stretched on that, but I don't know if he's made plays that way in the past, turning a short hop, into a long hop. Of course, you'll say it's ego, because you don't like him. You'll, instead, focus on this type of play, that rarely comes up that he likes to do, go to the lengths of putting quotes up about it, and call it ego. Hilarious. John, politely...this is really delusional. It clearly says in the article that he's going to continue to do the same thing he's done for years - Play into foul territory and play for the long hop. It doesn't work. I have no idea what errors he is "saving" but I do know on this play, he caused one. He's caused more than a few this year that he doesn't get charged with because he has poor footwork around the bag and pretty much always has. Here's the playoffs in 2020 against LA. He never even gets to the bag and then can't adjust to the throw. He goes into foul territory for no reason a lot, making an easy play more difficult. Here's the play from the other night, frame by frame. Look where the ball bounces. He could extend and catch this ball EASILY. Instead, Cronenworth makes a spectacular play and he gets charged with the error because the first baseman can't make the catch. The reason his ego was brought up is not because I "don't like him." It's because he's made repeated statements in the past that he's unwilling to adjust to the game for the benefit of his team. Whether it's elevating the ball, working out in San Diego in the offseason with the staff, his defense or anything else. And, Hosmer keeps on keeping on as he just gets a single, and drives in two more runs, but let's continue to focus on this rare move. That's what's delusional. Also, of course you don't recognize the errors and runs he saves with his digs, since I'm sure you block out all good things he does. The proof is that even though he's having a tremendous year, you'll bring up this stuff and go as far as finding quotes. Ridiculous, but I'm here to combat that.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 16:50:48 GMT -8
Nice piece of hitting on a ball well below the zone there...so I don't get accused of being negative. Come on Ryan, that is meaningless. It's a forced compliment.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 16:58:15 GMT -8
John, politely...this is really delusional. It clearly says in the article that he's going to continue to do the same thing he's done for years - Play into foul territory and play for the long hop. It doesn't work. I have no idea what errors he is "saving" but I do know on this play, he caused one. He's caused more than a few this year that he doesn't get charged with because he has poor footwork around the bag and pretty much always has. Here's the playoffs in 2020 against LA. He never even gets to the bag and then can't adjust to the throw. He goes into foul territory for no reason a lot, making an easy play more difficult. Here's the play from the other night, frame by frame. Look where the ball bounces. He could extend and catch this ball EASILY. Instead, Cronenworth makes a spectacular play and he gets charged with the error because the first baseman can't make the catch. The reason his ego was brought up is not because I "don't like him." It's because he's made repeated statements in the past that he's unwilling to adjust to the game for the benefit of his team. Whether it's elevating the ball, working out in San Diego in the offseason with the staff, his defense or anything else. And, Hosmer keeps on keeping on as he just gets a single, and drives in two more runs, but let's continue to focus on this rare move. That's what's delusional. Also, of course you don't recognize the errors and runs he saves with his digs, since I'm sure you block out all good things he does. The proof is that even though he's having a tremendous year, you'll bring up this stuff and go as far as finding quotes. Ridiculous, but I'm here to combat that. No, you're here to be myopic and not understand the difference between "tremendous" and "fluky." What Machado is doing? Tremendous. He's at the top of categories for a reason. What Hosmer is doing isn't in the same stratosphere. I'm not blocking out anything....The fact is he does what I pointed out *often*....and you refuse to accept that. That's your issue.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 16:59:14 GMT -8
Nice piece of hitting on a ball well below the zone there...so I don't get accused of being negative. Come on Ryan, that is meaningless. It's a forced compliment. It was an 80 MPH single that got under the glove of an infielder. At some point, it's not going to last. It's just reality of his skillset. Hope it continues for as long as possible, but he needs to start lifting the ball with regularity at some point.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 17:02:42 GMT -8
Come on Ryan, that is meaningless. It's a forced compliment. It was an 80 MPH single that got under the glove of an infielder. At some point, it's not going to last. The difference is, I hope it does last, and you hope it doesn't.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 17:04:35 GMT -8
And, Hosmer keeps on keeping on as he just gets a single, and drives in two more runs, but let's continue to focus on this rare move. That's what's delusional. Also, of course you don't recognize the errors and runs he saves with his digs, since I'm sure you block out all good things he does. The proof is that even though he's having a tremendous year, you'll bring up this stuff and go as far as finding quotes. Ridiculous, but I'm here to combat that. No, you're here to be myopic and not understand the difference between "tremendous" and "fluky." What Machado is doing? Tremendous. He's at the top of categories for a reason. What Hosmer is doing isn't in the same stratosphere. I'm not blocking out anything....The fact is he does what I pointed out *often*....and you refuse to accept that. That's your issue. You're the one comparing him to Machado, not me. There's no comparison, but that's your way of diminishing what he's done. You're soooo easy to read. He's doing tremendous for Eric Hosmer, and quite frankly for MANY others.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 17:11:24 GMT -8
Nice piece of hitting on a ball well below the zone there...so I don't get accused of being negative. Nice backhanded compliment. Sheesh.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 17:24:59 GMT -8
It was an 80 MPH single that got under the glove of an infielder. At some point, it's not going to last. The difference is, I hope it does last, and you hope it doesn't. Your self-righteousness plays. I know it's unlikely to last, based on four years of data, trends and statistical probability. THAT is the difference. Comparing him to Machado because that's the easiest comparison to make on the team. Simple.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 17:25:46 GMT -8
The difference is, I hope it does last, and you hope it doesn't. Your self-righteousness plays. Nah, just normalcy, at least for those that are really fans of the Padres, and want to see them win, no matter their biases.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 17:27:43 GMT -8
Your self-righteousness plays. Nah, just normalcy, at least for those that are really fans of the Padres, and want to see them win, no matter their biases. Here you go again, preaching how to fan. Stick the religious views and preaching in church, please. No need for it here. My fandom counts just as much as your myopia. We want the same thing. I'm just not here for the same insanity you are.
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Post by sdsuball on May 13, 2022 18:03:14 GMT -8
Eh, we need to just give Voit more time at 1B and Hosmer more time at DH.
Hosmer has been playing better this year on offense, and no it's not all luck. It's (partly) luck, and partly changes he made to his game.
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Post by aztecryan on May 13, 2022 18:36:52 GMT -8
Eh, we need to just give Voit more time at 1B and Hosmer more time at DH. Hosmer has been playing better this year on offense, and no it's not all luck. It's (partly) luck, and partly changes he made to his game. Like what, exactly? Curious.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 22:19:57 GMT -8
Nah, just normalcy, at least for those that are really fans of the Padres, and want to see them win, no matter their biases. Here you go again, preaching how to fan. Stick the religious views and preaching in church, please. No need for it here. My fandom counts just as much as your myopia. We want the same thing. I'm just not here for the same insanity you are. Weird, bringing religion into this discussion, but whatever. You can "fan" however you want, but just know that you're not fooling most people when you say that you don't personally like Hosmer and you're biased because of it. There's no myopia here. He's simply STILL kicking ass with three more hits today. Don't be too upset if he proves you wrong and has a good season when it's all said and done. It will be best for the Padres. Correct? I'm sure that's hard for you to admit when it comes to Hosmer. Good luck, you might have to deal with him being successful a lot this year. We'll see.
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Post by johneaztec on May 13, 2022 22:20:39 GMT -8
Eh, we need to just give Voit more time at 1B and Hosmer more time at DH. Hosmer has been playing better this year on offense, and no it's not all luck. It's (partly) luck, and partly changes he made to his game. Like what, exactly? Curious. Hitting left-handers much better, decided to be more patient at the plate, etc....
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