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Post by aardvark on Oct 28, 2021 16:36:07 GMT -8
Bob Melvin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 17:07:45 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 28, 2021 17:48:07 GMT -8
Home run.
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 28, 2021 18:55:20 GMT -8
Good hire.
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Post by junior on Oct 28, 2021 19:51:21 GMT -8
Kind of a surprise given his current job, but Melvin has some serious credibility.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 28, 2021 19:59:56 GMT -8
Kind of a surprise given his current job, but Melvin has some serious credibility. The A's are going to gut salary and Melvin knew it. He was likely looking at a rebuilding project without the benefit of money being pumped into the team. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 28, 2021 21:49:39 GMT -8
Nice!!! I really like this hire!!!
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Oct 28, 2021 21:56:01 GMT -8
I thought Ozzie Guillen might have been interesting, but this is better. Surprised he was available.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Oct 28, 2021 22:08:34 GMT -8
Melvin will be the 6th Padre manager to manage the A's first. The other 5:
John McNamara
Alvin Dark
Dick Williams
Steve Boros
Jack McKeon
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 28, 2021 23:22:29 GMT -8
He's an improvement, but he's not some miracle worker. His career winning percentage is only .514, and he's never taken a team to the World Series. On the negative side, his teams have had losing records 8 times in 18 years. Not horrible, but not exactly Hall of Fame credentials.
Like I said, an improvement, but I don't see this as a home run. A double, maybe.
We'll see how it goes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 6:49:41 GMT -8
Erik,
I do not disagree, but he has also managed some bad teams. Reminds me of when Terry Francona (proven to be an elite manager) left Philly with an awful record and Red Sox fans were pretty irritated when Theo hired him in BOS. Then he won two 'ships there and has gone on to have the most wins in the American League lately with the Indians.
Yes, maybe more of a double than a home run --- but I do like that his players absolutely love him, and he has a ton of experience. I think we could have done alot worse.
He must be thrilled --- go from that cavernous dump of a home stadium to Petco, and leave behind the A's, who are certain to move Olson and are constantly turning over the roster to lower payroll.
He won't have any excuses, here.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 29, 2021 6:56:27 GMT -8
He's an improvement, but he's not some miracle worker. His career winning percentage is only .514, and he's never taken a team to the World Series. On the negative side, his teams have had losing records 8 times in 18 years. Not horrible, but not exactly Hall of Fame credentials. Like I said, an improvement, but I don't see this as a home run. A double, maybe. We'll see how it goes. Oakland has never run a payroll higher than 24th in baseball since he got there. They've been 29th or 30th multiple times. He's never had a roster like this and a team actually willing to spend. He's got a better managerial record than Bochy (Yeah, I know, rings...) and is lauded for his communication skills and his ability to adapt to the roster. It's a massive improvement. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 7:59:13 GMT -8
"On Thursday, Bob Melvin celebrated his 60th birthday by agreeing to a three-year contract as San Diego’s new manager, sources confirmed. One of baseball’s more decorated figures, Melvin won three American League West titles and was twice named Manager of the Year in his 11 seasons guiding the Oakland Athletics. The A’s, who had exercised Melvin’s option for 2022, will not receive compensation from the Padres.
The move was hailed as an unexpected coup by rival officials. Melvin had been speculated as a candidate for the Mets’ managerial vacancy, but his Padres candidacy was largely a secret. According to sources, Melvin interviewed in San Diego earlier this week. An offer soon followed."
-Dennis Lin
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Post by azson on Oct 29, 2021 8:12:23 GMT -8
He's an improvement, but he's not some miracle worker. His career winning percentage is only .514, and he's never taken a team to the World Series. On the negative side, his teams have had losing records 8 times in 18 years. Not horrible, but not exactly Hall of Fame credentials. Like I said, an improvement, but I don't see this as a home run. A double, maybe. We'll see how it goes. Considering your ad nauseam glass half-full takes on the Aztecs I shouldn't be surprised by your reaction, but as an A's fan I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong. The A's are either in the playoffs, or within striking distance, every single year with zero support from ownership/upper management. What he's done with that piss-poor organization is nothing short of miraculous and there's a reason he's won MOY three times. Ryan is correct, this is an absolute HR, or dare I say grand slam. |
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Post by azson on Oct 29, 2021 8:16:44 GMT -8
"On Thursday, Bob Melvin celebrated his 60th birthday by agreeing to a three-year contract as San Diego’s new manager, sources confirmed. One of baseball’s more decorated figures, Melvin won three American League West titles and was twice named Manager of the Year in his 11 seasons guiding the Oakland Athletics. The A’s, who had exercised Melvin’s option for 2022, will not receive compensation from the Padres. The move was hailed as an unexpected coup by rival officials. Melvin had been speculated as a candidate for the Mets’ managerial vacancy, but his Padres candidacy was largely a secret. According to sources, Melvin interviewed in San Diego earlier this week. An offer soon followed."-Dennis Lin Hopefully the first of many coups to make up for the Scherzer/tradeline debacle  |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 29, 2021 8:18:40 GMT -8
He's an improvement, but he's not some miracle worker. His career winning percentage is only .514, and he's never taken a team to the World Series. On the negative side, his teams have had losing records 8 times in 18 years. Not horrible, but not exactly Hall of Fame credentials. Like I said, an improvement, but I don't see this as a home run. A double, maybe. We'll see how it goes. Oakland has never run a payroll higher than 24th in baseball since he got there. They've been 29th or 30th multiple times. He's never had a roster like this and a team actually willing to spend. He's got a better managerial record than Bochy (Yeah, I know, rings...) and is lauded for his communication skills and his ability to adapt to the roster. It's a massive improvement. Don't forget, he also managed the Diamondbacks, and they DID spend money. And, yeah, with Bochy - RINGS. MULTIPLE Rings. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 29, 2021 8:21:58 GMT -8
He's an improvement, but he's not some miracle worker. His career winning percentage is only .514, and he's never taken a team to the World Series. On the negative side, his teams have had losing records 8 times in 18 years. Not horrible, but not exactly Hall of Fame credentials. Like I said, an improvement, but I don't see this as a home run. A double, maybe. We'll see how it goes. Considering your ad nauseam glass half-full takes on the Aztecs I shouldn't be surprised by your reaction, but as an A's fan I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong. The A's are either in the playoffs, or within striking distance, every single year with zero support from ownership/upper management. What he's done with that piss-poor organization is nothing short of miraculous and there's a reason he's won MOY three times. Ryan is correct, this is an absolute HR, or dare I say grand slam. That's simply not true (about the A's being close to the playoffs every year). They had three losing seasons in a row under Melvin. And 3 of his 5 seasons in Arizona ended up with losing records. I'm sure he's a good manager, but he's never gotten a team to the World Series. We'll see how this works out. I'm quite sure that I've got San Diego Sports PTSD. So many years of frustration and disappointment with ZERO Championships. That will tend to make you quite cynical when it comes to San Diego sports teams... |
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Post by aardvark on Oct 29, 2021 9:38:50 GMT -8
Oakland has never run a payroll higher than 24th in baseball since he got there. They've been 29th or 30th multiple times. He's never had a roster like this and a team actually willing to spend. He's got a better managerial record than Bochy (Yeah, I know, rings...) and is lauded for his communication skills and his ability to adapt to the roster. It's a massive improvement. Don't forget, he also managed the Diamondbacks, and they DID spend money. And, yeah, with Bochy - RINGS. MULTIPLE Rings. The Diamondbacks spent money when Melvin was manager? Well, let's see: Year (Payroll rankings for AZ and SD and notes follow) 2005 16 17 Outspent the Padres on opening day by around $127k 2006 23 17 2007 26 24 2008 23 19 2009 19 29 The Moores divorce played highly into the plummeting payroll that year. And Melvin was fired 29 games into the 2009 season. |
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Post by aardvark on Oct 29, 2021 9:43:21 GMT -8
Considering your ad nauseam glass half-full takes on the Aztecs I shouldn't be surprised by your reaction, but as an A's fan I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong. The A's are either in the playoffs, or within striking distance, every single year with zero support from ownership/upper management. What he's done with that piss-poor organization is nothing short of miraculous and there's a reason he's won MOY three times. Ryan is correct, this is an absolute HR, or dare I say grand slam. That's simply not true (about the A's being close to the playoffs every year). They had three losing seasons in a row under Melvin. And 3 of his 5 seasons in Arizona ended up with losing records. I'm sure he's a good manager, but he's never gotten a team to the World Series. We'll see how this works out. I'm quite sure that I've got San Diego Sports PTSD. So many years of frustration and disappointment with ZERO Championships. That will tend to make you quite cynical when it comes to San Diego sports teams... And the 3 losing seasons in a row, the A's payroll was 27th, 27th, and 27th. You can't always make chicken salad out chicken sh/t. |
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Post by azdick on Oct 29, 2021 9:47:13 GMT -8
Considering your ad nauseam glass half-full takes on the Aztecs I shouldn't be surprised by your reaction, but as an A's fan I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong. The A's are either in the playoffs, or within striking distance, every single year with zero support from ownership/upper management. What he's done with that piss-poor organization is nothing short of miraculous and there's a reason he's won MOY three times. Ryan is correct, this is an absolute HR, or dare I say grand slam. That's simply not true (about the A's being close to the playoffs every year). They had three losing seasons in a row under Melvin. And 3 of his 5 seasons in Arizona ended up with losing records. I'm sure he's a good manager, but he's never gotten a team to the World Series. We'll see how this works out. I'm quite sure that I've got San Diego Sports PTSD. So many years of frustration and disappointment with ZERO Championships. That will tend to make you quite cynical when it comes to San Diego sports teams... Dude, it’s Bob Melvin, not Art Howe. |
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