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Post by aztecking on Feb 22, 2020 15:16:23 GMT -8
If he doesn't start, we don't beat Kansas or Baylor. Does it matter if he starts? He was only playing 20 minutes game before he got hurt. He could still easily average that amount even coming off the bench.
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Post by standiego on Feb 22, 2020 17:03:08 GMT -8
The start of MM is a ways off - let's see how the team and Nathan are doing when that time comes -
Also what kind of contribution we are getting from AG -
Would be great to have a healthy Nathan in there as he adds to the defense and rebounding when he is playing close to 100 %
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 22, 2020 19:35:03 GMT -8
Yeah I think that we beat UNLV if Nathan plays - his size and rebounding would have been huge tonight
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Post by azson on Feb 24, 2020 16:06:07 GMT -8
Yeah I think that we beat UNLV if Nathan plays - his size and rebounding would have been huge tonight Absolutely we do. I'm pretty sure they scored on all or most of their 7 O-boards, most of which don't happen if Nate is in.
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 24, 2020 17:16:38 GMT -8
Yeah I think that we beat UNLV if Nathan plays - his size and rebounding would have been huge tonight Absolutely we do. I'm pretty sure they scored on all or most of their 7 O-boards, most of which don't happen if Nate is in. Absolutely. Also, after we finally shut down their perimeter shooting, they started driving the lane. With Mensah protecting the rim, they wouldn’t have scored on several of their interior baskets.
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Post by docmm on Feb 24, 2020 17:23:25 GMT -8
Dutcher was on 1360 today and said it was a "strong probability" that Nathan plays in MM". That's the most positive language he's given us yet.
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Post by aztecking on Feb 24, 2020 18:41:56 GMT -8
Dutcher was on 1360 today and said it was a "strong probability" that Nathan plays in MM". That's the most positive language he's given us yet. At this point I think it’s almost guaranteed he plays unless he hits a setback for some reason. Dutcher has been more and more positive the last couple weeks and I don’t think he’d be saying what he’s saying unless he was nearly certain he'd play.
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 24, 2020 19:19:27 GMT -8
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 25, 2020 15:45:03 GMT -8
Dutcher was on 1360 today and said it was a "strong probability" that Nathan plays in MM". That's the most positive language he's given us yet. At this point I think it’s almost guaranteed he plays unless he hits a setback for some reason. Dutcher has been more and more positive the last couple weeks and I don’t think he’d be saying what he’s saying unless he was nearly certain he'd play. There is no certainty until he's been officially cleared for contact, and that still hasn't happened. I believe there's a target date for that, but he still needs to pass a few hurdles with the doctors for that to happen. Fingers crossed - would be nice if he has at least 3 full days of contact practice before Sacramento.
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Post by hoobs on Feb 25, 2020 15:57:56 GMT -8
In my own experience with blood thinners, for me coming off them was a function of: 1) a specific date based on an initial triggering event (might not apply to Nate's case), 2) blood tests, 3) physical/cardiovascular tests.
As 'Coug says, it's all down to Dr's orders on being cleared... and there are mostly likely a handful of medical variables that will determine when that happens.
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Post by legkick on Feb 25, 2020 16:38:32 GMT -8
In my own experience with blood thinners, for me coming off them was a function of: 1) a specific date based on an initial triggering event (might not apply to Nate's case), 2) blood tests, 3) physical/cardiovascular tests. As 'Coug says, it's all down to Dr's orders on being cleared... and there are mostly likely a handful of medical variables that will determine when that happens. ok Hoobser
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Post by smoketree on Feb 26, 2020 0:31:41 GMT -8
I, like all Aztec fans hope and pray that Nate will be available for the tourney. After speaking with someone knowledgeable at the game, my gut feeling says that this is NOT a given at all. Nate's health obviously means more than anything. There is such a huge liability that the school and the physicians would be taking by releasing him to play god forbid something happened. Just my two cents for what it's worth. I hope I am wrong.
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 26, 2020 6:19:34 GMT -8
I, like all Aztec fans hope and pray that Nate will be available for the tourney. After speaking with someone knowledgeable at the game, my gut feeling says that this is NOT a given at all. Nate's health obviously means more than anything. There is such a huge liability that the school and the physicians would be taking by releasing him to play god forbid something happened. Just my two cents for what it's worth. I hope I am wrong. Hmmm. Buzzkill.
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Post by richpjr on Feb 26, 2020 6:38:04 GMT -8
Dutcher has said he won’t play until he is cleared by the doctors. From the tone of his statement, it sounded like he was optimistic it would happen, but not until MM.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Feb 26, 2020 9:13:11 GMT -8
Dutcher has said he won’t play until he is cleared by the doctors. From the tone of his statement, it sounded like he was optimistic it would happen, but not until MM. I'll take what Dutch said over some unknown person...I am more than sure Dutch is in the loop of what is going on with Nathan's health...and if it was going slow or bad...he wouldn't say there was a "strong chance" he would return on a specific date....
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Post by twobits on Feb 26, 2020 9:44:55 GMT -8
I, like all Aztec fans hope and pray that Nate will be available for the tourney. After speaking with someone knowledgeable at the game, my gut feeling says that this is NOT a given at all. Nate's health obviously means more than anything. There is such a huge liability that the school and the physicians would be taking by releasing him to play god forbid something happened. Just my two cents for what it's worth. I hope I am wrong. Smoketree, was the person you talked to at all connected to the school/team or just someone that has general medical knowledge? Just wondering in what context the "someone knowledgeable" comment was.
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Post by survalli on Feb 26, 2020 11:06:09 GMT -8
Dutcher has said he won’t play until he is cleared by the doctors. From the tone of his statement, it sounded like he was optimistic it would happen, but not until MM. I'll take what Dutch said over some unknown person...I am more than sure Dutch is in the loop of what is going on with Nathan's health...and if it was going slow or bad...he wouldn't say there was a "strong chance" he would return on a specific date.... thats an optimistic way of looking at it. Coaches are in the business of optimism. Smoketree would have good sources. so im going to take what he says as highly probable. even then it does not change the narrative. in fact when he plays may be entirely up to his family and handlers.
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 26, 2020 11:24:28 GMT -8
I'll take what Dutch said over some unknown person...I am more than sure Dutch is in the loop of what is going on with Nathan's health...and if it was going slow or bad...he wouldn't say there was a "strong chance" he would return on a specific date.... thats an optimistic way of looking at it. Coaches are in the business of optimism. Smoketree would have good sources. so im going to take what he says as highly probable. even then it does not change the narrative. in fact when he plays may be entirely up to his family and handlers. I actually read the entire report on the incidence of deep vein thrombosis in elite athletes that Zeigler mentioned in his article about Mensah from January. Among its salient points are: * Elite athletes are more susceptible to incidents of DVT than the general population * Risk factors include air travel, cold weather and exertion at altitude (Thank you, MWC) * Recovery times vary from three months to a year or more and is dependent on the athlete, severity of the DVT and treatment protocol * While on blood thinners athletes may, after an initial period, resume all normal, non-contact training * Once blood-thinner protocols are completed, the athlete may resume full engagement with their sport within a few days * There is always a risk of recurrence (or worse) of DVT in an athlete who's recently recovered from a DVT incident, though the risk of an adverse event following proper treatment is low * Resumption of sport after a DVT incident must be made with the careful consultation of the athlete, the athlete's family and the athlete's physician. Elite athletes are typically eager to resume their sport and/or livelihood, and this can be accomplished, but must be done with full care and consideration So the bottom line, it seems with Mensah, is that the decision to resume play will come down to Mensah, his family and his physician. Fingers crossed.
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Post by KickAztec on Feb 26, 2020 16:46:19 GMT -8
>> * Risk factors include air travel, cold weather and exertion at altitude.
OK, then no Reno. A staff member needs to drive Nate to Vegas, Sacramento, and LA. Done. Atlanta? Not sure how to handle that one.
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Feb 26, 2020 17:04:30 GMT -8
>> * Risk factors include air travel, cold weather and exertion at altitude. OK, then no Reno. A staff member needs to drive Nate to Vegas, Sacramento, and LA. Done. Atlanta? Not sure how to handle that one. He's traveled with the team to the past few road games, including a couple at various degrees of altitude, so I don't think that facet is an issue anymore.
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