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Post by laaztec on Nov 25, 2010 7:33:42 GMT -8
to Minnesota is because I think this is the first time (at least since '88 when I became an SDSU fan) that one of our coaches, in either football or Men's basketball could actually get hire away.
We are only use to our coaches getting fired not getting snatched away. The only SDSU coach I can remember getting hired away was Beth Burn to Ohio State everyone else got fired.
Successful coaches getting hire away from SDSU (or just interviewing for other jobs) is so foreign to SDSU fans I am not sure we know how to deal with it.
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Post by Xolotl on Nov 25, 2010 7:37:36 GMT -8
I think you are right to a point. But didn't we hire Hoke away from Ball St. and wasn't there still time on that contract.  Just saying, money talks, because love of your University doesn't seem to hold water anymore.  |
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Post by Xolotl on Nov 25, 2010 7:40:11 GMT -8
I was looking at your logo and I see the DC.
Did you notice that the Chargers have NO such thing for Don? Hum? whats with them?
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Post by laaztec on Nov 25, 2010 7:41:00 GMT -8
I think you are right to a point. But didn't we hire Hoke away from Ball St. and wasn't there still time on that contract. Just saying, money talks, because love of your University doesn't seem to hold water anymore. I have no problem with Hoke going to Minnesota if we can't match what they are offering. That's just the way it goes. The problem I have is that Hoke took a meeting with another schools during the week of they last game in the regular season. He couldn't wait until after the UNLV game? I guess he is so confident that we will be UNLV that he could worry about Minnesota this week instead. |
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Post by laaztec on Nov 25, 2010 7:44:43 GMT -8
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Post by Xolotl on Nov 25, 2010 7:49:04 GMT -8
Thanks did not know about the sticker?
And as for Hoke, I agree the timing was real tacky. Didn't he leave his team to go it alone to a bowl game?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2010 8:15:55 GMT -8
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Post by lou on Nov 25, 2010 8:26:21 GMT -8
yes, the fact that he left ball state and did not participate at the end and in their bowl game after all those years of coaching there raised some questions as to his loyalty
kinda like getting your poor girl friend pregnant with your first child and you look forward to the celebration; and then leaving her just before the child is born because the Lady living on the hill with the large house, large lawn, large parties and Country Club membership has taken a fancy to you
whatever: sometimes a man has got to do what a man has got to do
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Post by Xolotl on Nov 25, 2010 8:37:53 GMT -8
Yeah but a man doesn't have to screw the fat lady on the hill. Maybe that's where I get it wrong every time.
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Post by aztecron on Nov 25, 2010 8:46:21 GMT -8
I think you are right to a point. But didn't we hire Hoke away from Ball St. and wasn't there still time on that contract. Just saying, money talks, because love of your University doesn't seem to hold water anymore. I have no problem with Hoke going to Minnesota if we can't match what they are offering. That's just the way it goes. The problem I have is that Hoke took a meeting with another schools during the week of they last game in the regular season. He couldn't wait until after the UNLV game? I guess he is so confident that we will be UNLV that he could worry about Minnesota this week instead. There was probably a deadline to have the meeting issued by Minnesota. Probably on the basis of "we need to get the process going now" edict from the AD at Minny. So, Hoke probably had to partake of the meeting in that manner or pass. That's a tough position to be in. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Nov 25, 2010 8:54:54 GMT -8
Timing is up to the suitor in most cases like this. The paper says they want someone hired by the middle of next week.'
And you're exactly right, LA. We need some Boise fans to come on the board and settle us all down.
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Post by Village Aztec on Nov 25, 2010 21:52:49 GMT -8
May be he did not want to lose in the bowl game?
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Post by aztech on Nov 25, 2010 21:59:26 GMT -8
yes, the fact that he left ball state and did not participate at the end and in their bowl game after all those years of coaching there raised some questions as to his loyalty kinda like getting your poor girl friend pregnant with your first child and you look forward to the celebration; and then leaving her just before the child is born because the Lady living on the hill with the large house, large lawn, large parties and Country Club membership has taken a fancy to you whatever: sometimes a man has got to do what a man has got to do Ball State wasn't loyal to him. Had they been he may still be there. |
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Post by lou on Nov 25, 2010 22:06:52 GMT -8
to me, there is a distinction between Ball State and the kids on the football team that you recruited; and the school may have treated you badly, but you don't leave your kids hanging in the wind when their first bowl game is approaching
and i am sure that the san diego state administration would have understood this and allowed him to coach in the game--now Ball State, on the other hand, may have opened the door for him to leave once he announced he was heading to the west coast
if this same situation arises here next week, i would hope he would coach the team in the bowl game
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2010 5:55:58 GMT -8
to me, there is a distinction between Ball State and the kids on the football team that you recruited; and the school may have treated you badly, but you don't leave your kids hanging in the wind when their first bowl game is approaching and i am sure that the san diego state administration would have understood this and allowed him to coach in the game--now Ball State, on the other hand, may have opened the door for him to leave once he announced he was heading to the west coast if this same situation arises here next week, i would hope he would coach the team in the bowl game Actually, I'd just assume if he leaves, that he doesn't coach in the bowl game. Turn the game prep and HC duties over to Rocky Long and get a dress rehearsal of how the team responds to his leadership. I think we might be pleasantly surprised. I think he is an inspirational leader. |
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Post by azclown on Nov 26, 2010 6:16:30 GMT -8
I remember back in 99 I think, Butch Davis offered Tollner the OC gig for the new Cleveland Browns, TT thought about it for a while but decided he wanted to win here. It obviously didn't work out that way and I know how the board feels about him but I still respect him for not bolting after the Vegas Bowl year.
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Post by lou on Nov 26, 2010 8:27:10 GMT -8
"Turn the game prep and HC duties over to Rocky Long and get a dress rehearsal of how the team responds to his leadership. I think we might be pleasantly surprised. I think he is an inspirational leader. "
--i agree with your thinking and as a matter of fact, i would have hired R Long over B Hoke two years ago.
When I attend State games, I always arrive early and watch the team on the field 90 minutes before the game. I always watch Rocky walking the field with about ten or eleven defensive players about 80 to 90 minutes before the game, wearing their ties and slacks. Gettin their minds right. Results are some times lacking, but the focus and intensity is there.
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Post by k5james on Nov 26, 2010 8:31:15 GMT -8
--i agree with your thinking and as a matter of fact, i would have hired R Long over B Hoke two years ago. You'd be on your own on that one. I love Rocky as a coach but Brady is on a whole other level. |
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Post by Fred Noonan on Nov 26, 2010 10:11:23 GMT -8
to Minnesota is because I think this is the first time (at least since '88 when I became an SDSU fan) that one of our coaches, in either football or Men's basketball could actually get hire away. We are only use to our coaches getting fired not getting snatched away. The only SDSU coach I can remember getting hired away was Beth Burn to Ohio State everyone else got fired. Successful coaches getting hire away from SDSU (or just interviewing for other jobs) is so foreign to SDSU fans I am not sure we know how to deal with it. Good point. We don't know how to act. The idea that someone would leave us drives us nuts. We are so used to kicking people out that when the tables are turned we can't deal with it. I have zero problems with people showing an interest in our coach or him talking to them. College football is a business and people don't run businesses to suit other peoples concepts of timing. Would I prefer to be stuck in a time warp with a Joe Pa type coach being forever loyal. Sure. Is that where we are today in the real world? No. Buck up, deal with it, be happy with the great year we are having. If we have to replace a coach, so be it. We will see whether or not our management team has improved as well as our on field coaching. Or, are we still stuck with the type of decision making that brought us those who shall remain nameless for fear of a never ending thread? The Fred Noonan School of Navigation.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2010 10:22:26 GMT -8
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