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Post by montymontezuma on Oct 6, 2022 11:44:11 GMT -8
We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing. there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 8 i just don't dig (i live north of the 8~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board. I have seen some racist stuff posted on Aztecmesa in the past, but how is this racist? Marshall said 0% he is not coming here and good. Maybe he thinks the kid is selfish or won't play defense. Emotional stated he does not like all the tattoos, but he referred to himself as old. Does not liking tattoos make someone racist? Personally, I do not care for tattoos, but to each their own.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Oct 6, 2022 12:24:05 GMT -8
We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing. there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 8 i just don't dig (i live north of the 8~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board. Bro, I grew up in Chula Vista (south of the 8) and for the past 5 years 15 years live north of the 8 and I don't see anything racial in his comments at all. " He seems like a good teammate though and other players like him" Or how about. I am old and don't like tattoo's.... I know it's an age thing but I have a hard time with full body tattoos...." No mention of anything depicting skin color. In fact, the only one who exhibited racist comments here is you. Why are you assuming that because a kid has tattoos that he is black? White, latino and asian players have tattoos as well, and I am with the OP, I don't like them either. that goes if they are on any skin color, neck tattoos don't do it for me.
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Oct 6, 2022 13:08:30 GMT -8
there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 8 i just don't dig (i live north of the 8~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board. I think he's an incredible athlete and a very good basketball player, but I'm of the crowd that doesn't think he'd be a good fit. But it has nothing to do with his skin color or tattoos. I just think his ego is too massive and he takes plays off & doesn't play defense. I've seen him play and he just acts like its the Mikey show... gets a highlight here and there and doesn't seem to really give it his all to ensure they win. I saw him play in the TP classic I think it was (~2 years ago I think), and his team was losing a close game and he still acted that way. Ended up losing by like 20 if I remember correctly. They could've won the game if he cared more. He also may have grown up a little since, so maybe he's different now. I don't really blame him though. These days when you're famous at 13 years old there's no way that doesn't get to your head. Hopefully he can get over himself and make a good career in the NBA Interesting and I am one to think if Dutch thought he was a good fit then, I would feel he is a good fit. He does seem to take plays off and turn it on when he feels like it. However, I saw them play Riverside Elite and they were losing, and Mikey turned it on, knuckled down on defense, and basically took the game over. They only won by 2-3 points but Mikey was engaged and playing his arse off. Anyways, I do agree with you on being famous at 13, but it does seem the attitude might have changed and he does appear to be a really good teammate. It will be interesting to follow where he goes, but I have to think he could choose any college he wants but G-League might be best odds. Then again, I am not good at predicting like the Oracle. Anyways, I am not one to bash a young high school kid because IMO, most of them have some kind of attitude these days. My kids are no better than anyone else either. I am north of 805 (😂) so I look down on anyone south of it. However, I am seeing some really good teams from South of the 8 coming to these tournaments, and really showing well.
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 6, 2022 13:12:52 GMT -8
I think he's an incredible athlete and a very good basketball player, but I'm of the crowd that doesn't think he'd be a good fit. But it has nothing to do with his skin color or tattoos. I just think his ego is too massive and he takes plays off & doesn't play defense. I've seen him play and he just acts like its the Mikey show... gets a highlight here and there and doesn't seem to really give it his all to ensure they win. I saw him play in the TP classic I think it was (~2 years ago I think), and his team was losing a close game and he still acted that way. Ended up losing by like 20 if I remember correctly. They could've won the game if he cared more. He also may have grown up a little since, so maybe he's different now. I don't really blame him though. These days when you're famous at 13 years old there's no way that doesn't get to your head. Hopefully he can get over himself and make a good career in the NBA Interesting and I am one to think if Dutch thought he was a good fit then, I would feel he is a good fit. He does seem to take plays off and turn it on when he feels like it. However, I saw them play Riverside Elite and they were losing, and Mikey turned it on, knuckled down on defense, and basically took the game over. They only won by 2-3 points but Mikey was engaged and playing his arse off. Anyways, I do agree with you on being famous at 13, but it does seem the attitude might have changed and he does appear to be a really good teammate. It will be interesting to follow where he goes, but I have to think he could choose any college he wants but G-League might be best odds. Then again, I am not good at predicting like the Oracle. Anyways, I am not one to bash a young high school kid because IMO, most of them have some kind of attitude these days. My kids are no better than anyone else either. I am north of 805 (😂) so I look down on anyone south of it. However, I am seeing some really good teams from South of the 8 coming to these tournaments, and really showing well. Yeah he probably goes G League, but I think that we have a shot if he decides to go to college. When you have everything (fame, money), there's something to be said for trying to win a national championship for your hometown college. Blue bloods aren't going to have as much pull on him as they do on other top players because Mikey doesn't need sneaker box money from them and he doesn't need their fame either. Similar to Bronny and Ohio State. That being said there has been very little news tied to Mikey considering how high profile of a basketball player he is, so I'm truly just speculating. That's why I would be interested to know if any Aztec coaches have traveled to see him lately.
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Oct 6, 2022 13:14:10 GMT -8
Wait, were you referring to me as being racist? If so, that might be the most ridiculous thing I have seen posted on here in a long time. In fact, it is so ridiculous that I am not even going to respond any further to it. However, you might want to take a look in the mirror and self reflect with that one. I just hope you were not referring to my comments, and I highly encourage you to go back and read everything I have posted on Mikey if you were.
#FreeStan
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Post by survalli on Oct 6, 2022 13:17:47 GMT -8
Wait, were you referring to me as being racist? If so, that might be the most ridiculous thing I have seen posted on here in a long time. In fact, it is so ridiculous that I am not even going to respond any further to it. However, you might want to take a look in the mirror and self reflect with that one. I just hope you were not referring to my comments, and I highly encourage you to go back and read everything I have posted on Mikey if you were. #FreeStan you missed the part where i said, "not referring to you." Nonetheless, it is well known how certain elements of the basketball community feel about Mikey.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Oct 6, 2022 17:35:29 GMT -8
Wait, were you referring to me as being racist? If so, that might be the most ridiculous thing I have seen posted on here in a long time. In fact, it is so ridiculous that I am not even going to respond any further to it. However, you might want to take a look in the mirror and self reflect with that one. I just hope you were not referring to my comments, and I highly encourage you to go back and read everything I have posted on Mikey if you were. #FreeStan you missed the part where i said, "not referring to you." Nonetheless, it is well known how certain elements of the basketball community feel about Mikey. Soo the bball community feels that way about Mikey because of his actions or because he’s black? You just proved this isn’t racist. As far as classist, Mikey Williams is worth 7 million, he’s the 1% everyone is hating on, so perhaps there is some classism here, just in the opposite direction you were implying
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Post by survalli on Oct 6, 2022 19:32:42 GMT -8
you missed the part where i said, "not referring to you." Nonetheless, it is well known how certain elements of the basketball community feel about Mikey. Soo the bball community feels that way about Mikey because of his actions or because he’s black? You just proved this isn’t racist. As far as classist, Mikey Williams is worth 7 million, he’s the 1% everyone is hating on, so perhaps there is some classism here, just in the opposite direction you were implying i doubt you read what i wrote. as did the guy before, its not just about Mikey. its always been this way with "city" schools.
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Post by jp92grad on Oct 6, 2022 20:19:51 GMT -8
Soo the bball community feels that way about Mikey because of his actions or because he’s black? You just proved this isn’t racist. As far as classist, Mikey Williams is worth 7 million, he’s the 1% everyone is hating on, so perhaps there is some classism here, just in the opposite direction you were implying i doubt you read what i wrote. as did the guy before, its not just about Mikey. its always been this way with "city" schools. All the districts talk smack to each other, been that way and will continue to be that way. The only difference now is that there is social media videos and text to document it. The saddest part is that parents and or adults get involved which is just hard to believe that someone that should know better still gets involved in the high school level stuff made for the kids. The more time goes on the more adults that get involved trainers, coach's, advisors, family, friends......... the more possibility for distractions and corruption.
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Post by jp92grad on Oct 6, 2022 20:38:49 GMT -8
0.00% he comes to the mesa (which is a good thing) We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing. I was wondering about the tattoos, as far as I understand the law in California states no one can apply ink on to anyone under the age of 18. This is a shame that no one is really taking this law serious. How many KIDS do you see running around with all those tats all over there bodies up and down there arms and now necks. A lot of these kids haven't even applied for their first jobs yet and what kind of message are they sending to future employers. I know I am sounding older and older every post I put out but then again I am kinda old and please remember: Stay of my grass! and Where is Stan?
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Oct 6, 2022 22:46:20 GMT -8
Soo the bball community feels that way about Mikey because of his actions or because he’s black? You just proved this isn’t racist. As far as classist, Mikey Williams is worth 7 million, he’s the 1% everyone is hating on, so perhaps there is some classism here, just in the opposite direction you were implying i doubt you read what i wrote. as did the guy before, its not just about Mikey. its always been this way with "city" schools. I read every word you wrote, north county is racist and looks down on schools south of the 805. However, i grew up playing basketball And football in national city and Chula Vista, you try being the only white boy on the court And see what racist comments come your way. Also, wasn’t it Coronado high school, like you they are South of the 805, who threw Tortillas at players from orange Glen, who were north of the 805?
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Post by jp92grad on Oct 7, 2022 0:12:06 GMT -8
i doubt you read what i wrote. as did the guy before, its not just about Mikey. its always been this way with "city" schools. I read every word you wrote, north county is racist and looks down on schools south of the 805. However, i grew up playing basketball And football in national city and Chula Vista, you try being the only white boy on the court And see what racist comments come your way. Also, wasn’t it Coronado high school, like you they are South of the 805, who threw Tortillas at players from orange Glen, who were north of the 805? survalli, I blame all these misguided, mis-directed and lost individuals on you.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 7, 2022 5:10:24 GMT -8
Soo the bball community feels that way about Mikey because of his actions or because he’s black? You just proved this isn’t racist. As far as classist, Mikey Williams is worth 7 million, he’s the 1% everyone is hating on, so perhaps there is some classism here, just in the opposite direction you were implying i doubt you read what i wrote. as did the guy before, its not just about Mikey. its always been this way with "city" schools. Been what way? I wouldve LOVED to land Jameele Horne from Hoover/San Diego High. Or Norman Powell from Morse. The list goes on. I think you're way off here
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Oct 7, 2022 9:26:23 GMT -8
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Post by mc08066 on Oct 7, 2022 10:48:05 GMT -8
For all of you that are saying pass, you are not leveraging Dutcher’s ability and discipline he brings. Play defense or you sit. Mikey needs this probably more then anyone out there and SDSU needs his talent. We should not be afraid of it. Being on his top eight means we are an option. Mikey needs the defensive passion, the Aztecs can provide him the mindset to exceed. Maybe he ends up being a player like Burns who many think may have been one of our better players in one season or maybe he ends up being like a Flynn who just gets better on the defensive end. Recruit talent and let the chips fall were they fall. Let’s see if he can be a San Diego legend? Does he have the desire since he has the talent? Will probably be a first rounder no matter where he goes. This would help us recruit future players. He has practiced at SDSU previously so I am sure he knows most of the players. Hell he lives here so this has got to help in his learning curve if he is dedicated in his craft which I think he is. Recruit the talent and see what Dutch can do with it.
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Post by ignoranus on Oct 7, 2022 11:38:54 GMT -8
This lad does not even need a scholarship. He can walk-on and pay his own way. If he wants to bring a friend or two that can really "ball" like him, and pay their tuition, that would be OK too!
That would be a remarkable recruiting coup.
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Post by ignoranus on Oct 7, 2022 12:09:26 GMT -8
If Mikey could bring in four other Kentuchy level players Dutch could claim that he had recruited the "Free Fab FIVE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by jp92grad on Oct 7, 2022 12:49:33 GMT -8
Maybe this kids realizes that he could attend sdsu (close to home) work on defense for a year or two while still maintaining his social media thing.
The Aztecs have a proven record of producing players who are well coached and understand how to play defense which is kind of lacking these days in most programs.
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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 7, 2022 12:58:12 GMT -8
One and done(s) are great... if you are a Duke or Kentucky... and can consistently recruit them year after year.
A one and done at SDSU (and most other schools) is a big risk. You can easily alienate players that have been in the program for 2, 3 or 4 years. And let's be honest, SDSU looks for 4 year players.
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Post by mojo56 on Oct 7, 2022 20:37:32 GMT -8
You know this thread as gone full douche nozzle when people are saying N or S of the 805. What in the absolute f x x x ? The road runs N & S FFS. You probably meant the 8. If you can't get a detail like that right than the rest of your argument is $#!+.
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