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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Jun 14, 2022 9:03:54 GMT -8
I'm no expert but just thinking about it... I wouldn't think there'd be much endorsement/NIL type of stuff in the G league since nobody (companies) care what team he plays for in the G league. In college you get super rich boosters and companies who will pay you because they want you to play for their school. Unless I guess you can get shoe deals and stuff in the G league that you couldn't otherwise get in college
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Post by aztecs2019 on Jun 14, 2022 9:25:21 GMT -8
He can't jump straight to the NBA and the G-League Ignite cap is $500k. Considering he came back to San Ysidro after playing in North Carolina, I doubt he's interested in playing a year abroad. Best financial move would be to play for a NIL cash cow. He already makes so much more than that. Someone with between $2-5 million at 17 doesn’t need the G league or help from a university getting NIL deals. Companies are lining up for him because of the amount of social media followers he has. This is the only thing giving me optimism that he could choose SDSU The NIL aspect I'm referring to are the "faux" boosters who'd pay a player to go to a specific school. Playing in brighter lights could also increase the sponsorship competition and push contracts higher. He can't jump straight to the NBA and the G-League Ignite cap is $500k. Considering he came back to San Ysidro after playing in North Carolina, I doubt he's interested in playing a year abroad. Best financial move would be to play for a NIL cash cow. No it isn’t. He can make money outside the G league through endorsements. 500 K is just one piece of the puzzle. And the G league would provide significantly better competition for him than college. For a player who wants to grow his brand, is the G-League really the best option? Agreed that the competition is higher there, but some players want to make a name for themselves by dominating in the spotlight of college basketball and the NCAA Tourney, rather than potentially getting exposed. I'm no expert but just thinking about it... I wouldn't think there'd be much endorsement/NIL type of stuff in the G league since nobody (companies) care what team he plays for in the G league. In college you get super rich boosters and companies who will pay you because they want you to play for their school. Unless I guess you can get shoe deals and stuff in the G league that you couldn't otherwise get in college For real. I watch and have gone to NBA & college games but never have I gone to a G League game, let alone try to watch one. Viewership as far as I know is regulated to YouTube streaming, unless ESPN or NBA TV is covering a few of those games. Curious what their attendance is.
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 14, 2022 9:45:26 GMT -8
I'm no expert but just thinking about it... I wouldn't think there'd be much endorsement/NIL type of stuff in the G league since nobody (companies) care what team he plays for in the G league. In college you get super rich boosters and companies who will pay you because they want you to play for their school. Unless I guess you can get shoe deals and stuff in the G league that you couldn't otherwise get in college I'm sure he'd still have his Puma deal, and I doubt his 5M+ followers go away no matter where he plays. He already has a brand, so building it via college is less important for guys like him. The question will be which colleges are going to be flexible with his Puma deal? Do we believe a Jumpman university will like having a Puma guy promoting his brand?
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Post by fisherville on Jun 14, 2022 9:54:17 GMT -8
He already makes so much more than that. Someone with between $2-5 million at 17 doesn’t need the G league or help from a university getting NIL deals. Companies are lining up for him because of the amount of social media followers he has. This is the only thing giving me optimism that he could choose SDSU The NIL aspect I'm referring to are the "faux" boosters who'd pay a player to go to a specific school. Playing in brighter lights could also increase the sponsorship competition and push contracts higher. No it isn’t. He can make money outside the G league through endorsements. 500 K is just one piece of the puzzle. And the G league would provide significantly better competition for him than college. For a player who wants to grow his brand, is the G-League really the best option? Agreed that the competition is higher there, but some players want to make a name for themselves by dominating in the spotlight of college basketball and the NCAA Tourney, rather than potentially getting exposed. I'm no expert but just thinking about it... I wouldn't think there'd be much endorsement/NIL type of stuff in the G league since nobody (companies) care what team he plays for in the G league. In college you get super rich boosters and companies who will pay you because they want you to play for their school. Unless I guess you can get shoe deals and stuff in the G league that you couldn't otherwise get in college For real. I watch and have gone to NBA & college games but never have I gone to a G League game, let alone try to watch one. Viewership as far as I know is regulated to YouTube streaming, unless ESPN or NBA TV is covering a few of those games. Curious what their attendance is. G league did more than fine for Jalen Green and Kuminga
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Post by ignoranus on Jun 14, 2022 9:59:22 GMT -8
His very presence might attract another 5* player or two that would greatly improve the Aztec roster. Participation in summer tournaments might showcase his talents to to other high ranking talents that might want to play with him in order to get more noticed at the national level. This could have a millions of $$$$$$$$ (DOLLARS) benefit to the SDSU Athletics dept.
A deep NC2A run would have additional benefits to future recruiting and budgets, I suspect.
Questions: Is he coachable? How did he do in North Carolina? Grades? Character?
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 14, 2022 18:27:59 GMT -8
I'm no expert but just thinking about it... I wouldn't think there'd be much endorsement/NIL type of stuff in the G league since nobody (companies) care what team he plays for in the G league. In college you get super rich boosters and companies who will pay you because they want you to play for their school. Unless I guess you can get shoe deals and stuff in the G league that you couldn't otherwise get in college I'm sure he'd still have his Puma deal, and I doubt his 5M+ followers go away no matter where he plays. He already has a brand, so building it via college is less important for guys like him. The question will be which colleges are going to be flexible with his Puma deal? Do we believe a Jumpman university will like having a Puma guy promoting his brand? I think the better question is, will Nike like one of their Jumpman schools starting a player with a Puma shoe deal? Because I doubt SDSU cares so long as it can keep its Jumpman status
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Post by fisher1fan on Aug 10, 2022 11:32:25 GMT -8
His very presence might attract another 5* player or two that would greatly improve the Aztec roster. Participation in summer tournaments might showcase his talents to to other high ranking talents that might want to play with him in order to get more noticed at the national level. This could have a millions of $$$$$$$$ (DOLLARS) benefit to the SDSU Athletics dept. A deep NC2A run would have additional benefits to future recruiting and budgets, I suspect. Questions: Is he coachable? How did he do in North Carolina? Grades? Character? The revenue to the Dept is why they are worth millions. Hopefully he comes our way
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 10, 2022 12:05:59 GMT -8
His very presence might attract another 5* player or two that would greatly improve the Aztec roster. Participation in summer tournaments might showcase his talents to to other high ranking talents that might want to play with him in order to get more noticed at the national level. This could have a millions of $$$$$$$$ (DOLLARS) benefit to the SDSU Athletics dept. A deep NC2A run would have additional benefits to future recruiting and budgets, I suspect. Questions: Is he coachable? How did he do in North Carolina? Grades? Character? The revenue to the Dept is why they are worth millions. Hopefully he comes our way IDK. I'll admit I've only seen him play 3 times & it's been a couple years, but I see a lot of Emani Bates in the kid. Very me oriented, and when put into a position to help create for others he struggles. Some are a good fit for college style hoops and others less so. I think his game is better suited for the G-league style of play. Also do not see him worth millions to the athletic dept. I doubt we raise ticket prices because he comes here, and we're already at 90%+ capacity in ticket sales. You never turn away talent, obviously, so I hope he does come here. But not sold on him making a significant difference on the program overall other than if he does really well it might convince the next local stud to stay home as well. But IMO that'll be impacted more by a move to the P12 than by Williams coming here.
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Post by survalli on Aug 10, 2022 13:57:18 GMT -8
The revenue to the Dept is why they are worth millions. Hopefully he comes our way IDK. I'll admit I've only seen him play 3 times & it's been a couple years, but I see a lot of Emani Bates in the kid. Very me oriented, and when put into a position to help create for others he struggles. Some are a good fit for college style hoops and others less so. I think his game is better suited for the G-league style of play. Also do not see him worth millions to the athletic dept. I doubt we raise ticket prices because he comes here, and we're already at 90%+ capacity in ticket sales. You never turn away talent, obviously, so I hope he does come here. But not sold on him making a significant difference on the program overall other than if he does really well it might convince the next local stud to stay home as well. But IMO that'll be impacted more by a move to the P12 than by Williams coming here. The ball does need to revolve around him. Similar to JF. JF however was always had high assist numbers. This is something Mikey is working on. Mikey is a scorer and a ball handler. He needs the ball in his hands every possession.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 10, 2022 14:06:20 GMT -8
IDK. I'll admit I've only seen him play 3 times & it's been a couple years, but I see a lot of Emani Bates in the kid. Very me oriented, and when put into a position to help create for others he struggles. Some are a good fit for college style hoops and others less so. I think his game is better suited for the G-league style of play. Also do not see him worth millions to the athletic dept. I doubt we raise ticket prices because he comes here, and we're already at 90%+ capacity in ticket sales. You never turn away talent, obviously, so I hope he does come here. But not sold on him making a significant difference on the program overall other than if he does really well it might convince the next local stud to stay home as well. But IMO that'll be impacted more by a move to the P12 than by Williams coming here. The ball does need to revolve around him. Similar to JF. JF however was always had high assist numbers. This is something Mikey is working on. Mikey is a scorer and a ball handler. He needs the ball in his hands every possession. Which is fine if you're an efficient player. When I saw him he wasn't. Lots of forced bad shots, little creation for others, high TO%, etc. The worst players are high usage, low efficiency types. Bates had a high usage %, the teams highest % of shots taken to go with a low eFG%, low assist %, and high TO%. That's what I saw, but again, it was a couple years ago. Hopefully his decision making has matured. His skillset has never been in question, only his decision making.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 10, 2022 15:43:41 GMT -8
The ball does need to revolve around him. Similar to JF. JF however was always had high assist numbers. This is something Mikey is working on. Mikey is a scorer and a ball handler. He needs the ball in his hands every possession. Which is fine if you're an efficient player. When I saw him he wasn't. Lots of forced bad shots, little creation for others, high TO%, etc. The worst players are high usage, low efficiency types. Bates had a high usage %, the teams highest % of shots taken to go with a low eFG%, low assist %, and high TO%. That's what I saw, but again, it was a couple years ago. Hopefully his decision making has matured. His skillset has never been in question, only his decision making. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 13, 2022 16:49:13 GMT -8
IDK. I'll admit I've only seen him play 3 times & it's been a couple years, but I see a lot of Emani Bates in the kid. Very me oriented, and when put into a position to help create for others he struggles. Some are a good fit for college style hoops and others less so. I think his game is better suited for the G-league style of play. Also do not see him worth millions to the athletic dept. I doubt we raise ticket prices because he comes here, and we're already at 90%+ capacity in ticket sales. You never turn away talent, obviously, so I hope he does come here. But not sold on him making a significant difference on the program overall other than if he does really well it might convince the next local stud to stay home as well. But IMO that'll be impacted more by a move to the P12 than by Williams coming here. The ball does need to revolve around him. Similar to JF. JF however was always had high assist numbers. This is something Mikey is working on. Mikey is a scorer and a ball handler. He needs the ball in his hands every possession. Not similar to JF, Jamaal got to the line a ton and made his free throws. JF did not in any way need the ball in his hand to make an impact on the game. Really good team defense player, long arms got into passing lanes, lots of rebounds, could score in the fast break. Now did he have the ball a ton as a junior, yes. But wasn't X injured for part of the year, and we had a thin bench as well?
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Aug 13, 2022 17:26:38 GMT -8
I saw Mikey playing today at the tournament in Ladera. He is just a beast on the court against kids his own age. He looks big, strong, athletic and too good for regular tournament games. He can basically score anytime he wants. He was bringing the ball up the court and taking a couple of steps past the half court and draining 3's. He is bigger than the last time I saw him, and seemed to be a really good teammate. The competition was weak so he was never challenged. I saw some incredible highlight alley oops and dunks from him. The kids and fans mob him after the game. He seems to take it all in stride and just an incredible atmosphere around him.
Anyways, I am not sure how his game will transition to college since that is not my skill set, he definitely passes the eye test. The smaller quicker guards gave him a bit of a challenge but I never got the feeling he was really even trying. It almost seemed like he was out there for fun and winning was ever a concern or in question. Definitely fun to watch the kid play and his team is solid at every position. San Ysidro is going to be amazing this year.
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 5, 2022 19:18:24 GMT -8
Are we still in play for Mikey Williams?
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Post by MarshallU on Oct 6, 2022 9:43:04 GMT -8
Are we still in play for Mikey Williams? 0.00% he comes to the mesa (which is a good thing)
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Oct 6, 2022 10:58:14 GMT -8
Are we still in play for Mikey Williams? 0.00% he comes to the mesa (which is a good thing) We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing.
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Post by survalli on Oct 6, 2022 11:01:39 GMT -8
0.00% he comes to the mesa (which is a good thing) We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing. there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 8 i just don't dig (i live north of the 8~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board.
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Post by jp92grad on Oct 6, 2022 11:17:57 GMT -8
We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing. there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 805 i just don't dig (i live north of the 805~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board. Doesn't 805 run North to South?
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Post by survalli on Oct 6, 2022 11:23:25 GMT -8
there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 805 i just don't dig (i live north of the 805~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board. Doesn't 805 run North to South? hah your right, will fix it.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 6, 2022 11:33:39 GMT -8
We have played San Ysidro a few times in the tournament and fall league. He is just on another level and he is a pretty big kid. The amount of attention and people that surround him before and after games is incredible. The people all watch his games when they play. The stands are filled and people are standing 3-4-5 deep in the standing room area. He has amazing athleticism and his shot is pretty darn good. However, like many of you, I don't see him coming to State or likely any college for that matter. The kid is already a multi-millionaire so money isn't going to be an issue. He seems like a good teammate though and the other players seem to really like him. I think that whole team has been together for years. The other guy on their team, can't remember his name is really really good as well. Also, I am old so I don't like the tattoos all over his neck, hands, and rest of his body. I know it is an age thing but I have a hard time with the full body tattoos thing. I hope my kids don't fall into the whole ink thing. there is this Northern San Diego mentality versus those south of the 8 i just don't dig (i live north of the 8~), it reeks of racism and classism. when we have a talent in San Diego like Mikey Williams we should be embracing him rather than writing him off as "not a good fit." not saying its you, but that is the tone of the Anti Mikey crowd on this board. I think he's an incredible athlete and a very good basketball player, but I'm of the crowd that doesn't think he'd be a good fit. But it has nothing to do with his skin color or tattoos. I just think his ego is too massive and he takes plays off & doesn't play defense. I've seen him play and he just acts like its the Mikey show... gets a highlight here and there and doesn't seem to really give it his all to ensure they win. I saw him play in the TP classic I think it was (~2 years ago I think), and his team was losing a close game and he still acted that way. Ended up losing by like 20 if I remember correctly. They could've won the game if he cared more. He also may have grown up a little since, so maybe he's different now. I don't really blame him though. These days when you're famous at 13 years old there's no way that doesn't get to your head. Hopefully he can get over himself and make a good career in the NBA
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