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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 21:23:36 GMT -8
I understand the Orioles suck!! But they won 9 games in July. The Padres won only 5. So, if the Orioles were losing on purpose, or tanking, what were the Padres doing? I like your enthusiasm about the Padres. But you seriously might be the worst glass half full guy on this board. Neither team is very good, but you are cherry-picking a month out of the season. The Padres have won double-digit games in 3 months this season, and seem well on their way to doing it again this month--something the O's haven't done yet this season, and probably won't do at all. Yes, the Padres currently suck, but they don't suck as bad as the Orioles. Cherry picking one month? So 17 wins in June and July is some kind of awesome? You can fill your glass half full with Kool Aid as well.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 12, 2018 21:28:02 GMT -8
Neither team is very good, but you are cherry-picking a month out of the season. The Padres have won double-digit games in 3 months this season, and seem well on their way to doing it again this month--something the O's haven't done yet this season, and probably won't do at all. Yes, the Padres currently suck, but they don't suck as bad as the Orioles. Cherry picking one month? So 17 wins in June and July is some kind of awesome? You can fill your glass half full with Kool Aid as well. If you have read my posts on the Padres this season, you would know that I really don't care for the current team much at all. They are going to lose well over 90 games this season. I don't recall ever using the word "awesome" regarding the Padres this season. And I don't like Kool-Aid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 21:39:42 GMT -8
Cherry picking one month? So 17 wins in June and July is some kind of awesome? You can fill your glass half full with Kool Aid as well. If you have read my posts on the Padres this season, you would know that I really don't care for the current team much at all. They are going to lose well over 90 games this season. I don't recall ever using the word "awesome" regarding the Padres this season. And I don't like Kool-Aid. Well seeing how I was cherry picking, let's not forget the 10-20 record to start the season. That included 3 games in March. Try the orange Kool Aid. It's delicious!!
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 12, 2018 22:32:22 GMT -8
I just don't understand your point. They are bad. Nobody is denying that. I like to take the view though that understands what their long-term process is. There are 3 teams that are on pace to lose 100+ games in the AL. There are 2 or 3 in the NL. I happen to believe that the Padres could bounce back before any of the others do. It's been shown that you can engineer quicker turnarounds (Like the team they played and beat this series) than most expect.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 13, 2018 6:25:32 GMT -8
In August there are 21 teams with more KKKKs than the Padres.
Much Much more indicative is, the Padres lead the NL in runs per game in August. They are young and will improve over time. Having a number of good young players all being hot at once maybe gives us a little glimpse of what the near future could look like with this team.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 13, 2018 8:20:34 GMT -8
If you have read my posts on the Padres this season, you would know that I really don't care for the current team much at all. They are going to lose well over 90 games this season. I don't recall ever using the word "awesome" regarding the Padres this season. And I don't like Kool-Aid. Well seeing how I was cherry picking, let's not forget the 10-20 record to start the season. That included 3 games in March. Try the orange Kool Aid. It's delicious!! The Orioles were 8-22 during that time. Your point again?
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Post by aardvark on Aug 13, 2018 8:27:22 GMT -8
In August there are 21 teams with more KKKKs than the Padres. Much Much more indicative is, the Padres lead the NL in runs per game in August. They are young and will improve over time. Having a number of good young players all being hot at once maybe gives us a little glimpse of what the near future could look like with this team. It's only a 10-game sample. They were also 7-3 their first 10 games in June. How did that work out? Certainly not enough time to show a long-term trend. And should they improve over time, many of the current players will not be here when they do.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 13, 2018 8:38:14 GMT -8
But the core of that SHOULD be here. Renfroe, Margot, Hedges, etc. Some of them will obviously not be here, but I think the team will build around some of these younger players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:32:56 GMT -8
Well seeing how I was cherry picking, let's not forget the 10-20 record to start the season. That included 3 games in March. Try the orange Kool Aid. It's delicious!! The Orioles were 8-22 during that time. Your point again? I don't give a rats patootie about the Orioles. That's my point!! My argument started when Ryan seems to think they were losing on purpose. And you seem to come to his rescue with more bologna. The cherry picking you claim is ridiculous. You say the Padres had three months with double digit wins. Big deal!! May was their only winning month. Losing records in March/April, June and 5-20 in July is unacceptable!! But you guys will find somthing to compare this mediocrity to in order to fill your over optimism or just plain BS. Rebuilding or not this team has underachieved period. Most of us didn't think this was a playoff team including myself. But we also didn't see this so far horrible season coming either. I hope I am wrong and this team and organization turns things around. Let's hope they have winning record double digit wins in August and September and show us what they are capable of. So far so good. But just a little stumble and losing 100 games is back in the equation. Btw, the Chihuahuas are town this week. If it's not 100° I might go check some of the up and coming talent out. I am paying attention.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 13, 2018 9:44:19 GMT -8
The Orioles were 8-22 during that time. Your point again? I don't give a rats patootie about the Orioles. That's my point!! My argument started when Ryan seems to think they were losing on purpose. And you seem to come to his rescue with more bologna. The cherry picking you claim is ridiculous. You say the Padres had three months with double digit wins. Big deal!! May was their only winning month. Losing records in March/April, June and 5-20 in July is unacceptable!! But you guys will find somthing to compare this mediocrity to in order to fill your over optimism or just plain BS. Rebuilding or not this team has underachieved period. Most of us didn't think this was a playoff team including myself. But we also didn't see this so far horrible season coming either. I hope I am wrong and this team and organization turns things around. Let's hope they have winning record double digit wins in August and September and show us what they are capable of. So far so good. But just a little stumble and losing 100 games is back in the equation. Btw, the Chihuahuas are town this week. If it's not 100° I might go check some of the up and coming talent out. I am paying attention. Fowler thought this team would be a .500 team. This season. I laughed when he said that. And now, Fowler is disappointed that the Padres are playing so poorly. Wins and loss wise, the Padres DO stink this season. I have never said they DON'T stink. I said before the season started they would lose over 90 games, and (unfortunately) I will be proven correct. They are committed to building from their farm system, but they will suck leading up to the point that their prospects are brought up, and hopefully, they will become good players. And...Ryan doesn't need to be "rescued" by me, or anyone else.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 13, 2018 9:45:25 GMT -8
But the core of that SHOULD be here. Renfroe, Margot, Hedges, etc. Some of them will obviously not be here, but I think the team will build around some of these younger players. Isn't that the idea?
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 13, 2018 13:22:45 GMT -8
In August there are 21 teams with more KKKKs than the Padres. Much Much more indicative is, the Padres lead the NL in runs per game in August. They are young and will improve over time. Having a number of good young players all being hot at once maybe gives us a little glimpse of what the near future could look like with this team. It's only a 10-game sample. They were also 7-3 their first 10 games in June. How did that work out? Certainly not enough time to show a long-term trend. And should they improve over time, many of the current players will not be here when they do. The free agent years of their core players is beyond 2021. They will be her for the Padres target seasons.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 13, 2018 13:35:02 GMT -8
I think next year you could see a lineup of... 1. Margot 2. Urias 3. Hosmer 4. Myers 5. Renfroe 6. Tatis 7. FA 3B 8. Hedges/Mejia
Assuming they target a free agent third baseman who is competent, a bounceback from Hosmer and actual health from Myers...That isn't a poor lineup.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 13, 2018 14:04:46 GMT -8
It's only a 10-game sample. They were also 7-3 their first 10 games in June. How did that work out? Certainly not enough time to show a long-term trend. And should they improve over time, many of the current players will not be here when they do. The free agent years of their core players is beyond 2021. They will be her for the Padres target seasons. As I said above, isn't that the idea?
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Post by aardvark on Aug 13, 2018 14:07:10 GMT -8
I think next year you could see a lineup of... 1. Margot 2. Urias 3. Hosmer 4. Myers 5. Renfroe 6. Tatis 7. FA 3B 8. Hedges/Mejia Assuming they target a free agent third baseman who is competent, a bounceback from Hosmer and actual health from Myers...That isn't a poor lineup. Myers could be your third baseman. The Padres have to find a spot for him. Although, tonight's lineup is interesting, in that Green has decided to start Myers at 3rd--and give Villanueva his first start at 1st base.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 13, 2018 16:06:49 GMT -8
Pretty sure Villanueva has played first before at least once - Myers at 3rd is an experiment, nothing more. It would be a mistake, honestly. It's fun, but his injuries are a major concern.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 13, 2018 16:25:53 GMT -8
Pretty sure Villanueva has played first before at least once - Myers at 3rd is an experiment, nothing more. It would be a mistake, honestly. It's fun, but his injuries are a major concern. He also played the third in his rehab assignment at Lake Elsinore. It makes sense since the Padres have a lot of young good outfielders. The number 5 Prospect in baseball catcher the Padres got in the hand trade also has played third base and left field in the minors. If Hedges continues to improve like he has. Mejia, catching Prospect from Cleveland, could play a lot of third base and backup catcher. Reyes and Jankowski could have quite a battle for the third Outfield position if Meyers does play Third Base. Good problems to have.
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Post by azteca on Aug 13, 2018 16:41:34 GMT -8
Pretty sure Villanueva has played first before at least once - Myers at 3rd is an experiment, nothing more. It would be a mistake, honestly. It's fun, but his injuries are a major concern. He also played the third in his rehab assignment at Lake Elsinore. It makes sense since the Padres have a lot of young good outfielders. The number 5 Prospect in baseball catcher the Padres got in the hand trade also has played third base and left field in the minors. If Hedges continues to improve like he has. Mejia, catching Prospect from Cleveland, could play a lot of third base and backup catcher. Reyes and Jankowski could have quite a battle for the third Outfield position if Meyers does play Third Base. Good problems to have. Myers only played a one game rehab!
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 13, 2018 18:57:39 GMT -8
He also played the third in his rehab assignment at Lake Elsinore. It makes sense since the Padres have a lot of young good outfielders. The number 5 Prospect in baseball catcher the Padres got in the hand trade also has played third base and left field in the minors. If Hedges continues to improve like he has. Mejia, catching Prospect from Cleveland, could play a lot of third base and backup catcher. Reyes and Jankowski could have quite a battle for the third Outfield position if Meyers does play Third Base. Good problems to have. Myers only played a one game rehab! The First 6 outs tonight, Myers gets 4 assists and 1 PO, amazingly. He looks comfortable there.
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Post by azteca on Aug 13, 2018 19:09:02 GMT -8
Myers only played a one game rehab! The First 6 outs tonight, Myers gets 4 assists and 1 PO, amazingly. He looks comfortable there. That he does.
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