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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 16, 2017 19:39:27 GMT -8
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 16, 2017 20:08:45 GMT -8
Man, what a great game that was. Yeah, if we had Blanton and Blackwell on last year's team we may well have gone undefeated. That '96 team was great.
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Post by northcountymike on Jul 16, 2017 23:15:36 GMT -8
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Post by northcountymike on Jul 16, 2017 23:17:30 GMT -8
Wyoming was ranked #16 in the country at the time. The Cowboys were very good. But you left out three 1997 NFL draft picks from that Aztec team: Will Blackwell (WR Steelers) Nate Jacquet (WR Colts) Ricky Parker (DB Bears) And don't forget RB Obafemi Ayanbadejo, who wasn't drafted but had a long NFL career. And don't forget Az Hakim, who was drafted in 1998. And don't forget a young Kabeer Gbajabiamila, who was drafted in 2000. Don't forget Ephraim Salaam. ...that's a lot of "forgetting."
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Post by Frantic on Jul 17, 2017 7:41:55 GMT -8
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 17, 2017 19:22:13 GMT -8
Man, what a great game that was. Yeah, if we had Blanton and Blackwell on last year's team we may well have gone undefeated. That '96 team was great. I doubt those guys would have helped us cover the South Alabama receivers. But with Ricky Parker and Rico Curtis maybe.
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Post by Snohomie-Aztec on Jul 17, 2017 19:42:45 GMT -8
We had Billy Blanton, Kyle Turley and George Jones and barely pulled it out? Besides coaching, the best explanation to me is that SDSU in those years had more talented individual players (same goes for the Faulk years), but were not a complete "team". Flashy talent, but not getting past .500 in the standings. Nowadays, under Rocky Long, SDSU has been a complete "team" and each year gaining players with the potential to be the next Turley or George Jones. In my opinion, the best, most balanced (a good running AND passing game plus a good defense) team in recent years was the 2010 squad with Ryan Lindley (243/421 for 3,830 yards and 28 TDs and 14 INTs), two 1,000-yard receivers in Vincent Brown (69 receptions for 1,352 yards and 10 TDs) and DeMarco Sampson (67 receptions for 1,220 yards and 8 TDs), and Ronnie Hillman (262 carries for 1,532 yards and 17 TDs). Went 9-4 and lost their games by a grand total of 15 points.
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 17, 2017 19:46:26 GMT -8
I didn't realize that Wyoming was ranked 16 at the time. Sorry!
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Post by Snohomie-Aztec on Jul 17, 2017 19:51:54 GMT -8
That game started one of the more astonishing pair of back to back results ever. We beat #16 Wyoming to end the nation's then longest winning streak. The very next week, we lost to NLV to halt the nation's longest losing streak.
Difficult to believe to this very day.
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Post by sgvaztec on Jul 18, 2017 15:22:44 GMT -8
We had Billy Blanton, Kyle Turley and George Jones and barely pulled it out? Besides coaching, the best explanation to me is that SDSU in those years had more talented individual players (same goes for the Faulk years), but were not a complete "team". Flashy talent, but not getting past .500 in the standings. Nowadays, under Rocky Long, SDSU has been a complete "team" and each year gaining players with the potential to be the next Turley or George Jones. In my opinion, the best, most balanced (a good running AND passing game plus a good defense) team in recent years was the 2010 squad with Ryan Lindley (243/421 for 3,830 yards and 28 TDs and 14 INTs), two 1,000-yard receivers in Vincent Brown (69 receptions for 1,352 yards and 10 TDs) and DeMarco Sampson (67 receptions for 1,220 yards and 8 TDs), and Ronnie Hillman (262 carries for 1,532 yards and 17 TDs). Went 9-4 and lost their games by a grand total of 15 points. Great post CV. You are right on everything. The pro offense is all about balance. The 2010 team had that.
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Post by fanhood on Jul 19, 2017 3:31:41 GMT -8
Besides coaching, the best explanation to me is that SDSU in those years had more talented individual players (same goes for the Faulk years), but were not a complete "team". Flashy talent, but not getting past .500 in the standings. Nowadays, under Rocky Long, SDSU has been a complete "team" and each year gaining players with the potential to be the next Turley or George Jones. In my opinion, the best, most balanced (a good running AND passing game plus a good defense) team in recent years was the 2010 squad with Ryan Lindley (243/421 for 3,830 yards and 28 TDs and 14 INTs), two 1,000-yard receivers in Vincent Brown (69 receptions for 1,352 yards and 10 TDs) and DeMarco Sampson (67 receptions for 1,220 yards and 8 TDs), and Ronnie Hillman (262 carries for 1,532 yards and 17 TDs). Went 9-4 and lost their games by a grand total of 15 points. Great post CV. You are right on everything. The pro offense is all about balance. The 2010 team had that. In reality, the 2010 team gave away the Missouri game, as well as the Utah game. We were better than both of those teams. That team should have been 11-2, and they were all recruited by Chuck Long. Strange.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Jul 19, 2017 5:36:05 GMT -8
Great post CV. You are right on everything. The pro offense is all about balance. The 2010 team had that. In reality, the 2010 team gave away the Missouri game, as well as the Utah game. We were better than both of those teams. That team should have been 11-2, and they were all recruited by Chuck Long. Strange. Not to get off topic, but I'll never forget going to the @ UCLA game in Hoke's first year as HC. We got crushed and that year we only won about 4 games, but I was enthused because we looked so much more organized on both sides of the ball than we did under Chuck Long. I guess he could recruit decently, but that staff was so clearly terrible at coaching X's and O's it was painful
But yes... that 2010 team was extremely good. Could've easily had a much better record with some real quality wins
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Post by fowl on Jul 19, 2017 5:47:07 GMT -8
Great post CV. You are right on everything. The pro offense is all about balance. The 2010 team had that. In reality, the 2010 team gave away the Missouri game, as well as the Utah game. We were better than both of those teams. That team should have been 11-2, and they were all recruited by Chuck Long. Strange. It really is crazy when you think about that season. Mizzou game was ours and we gave it away (with help from the refs on that last td). Utah won because of the hail mary td at the end of H1. BYU loss by 3 - fumblegate. And then we lost by 5 at TCU who ended up the season #2 in the nation.
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Post by fanhood on Jul 19, 2017 6:18:09 GMT -8
In reality, the 2010 team gave away the Missouri game, as well as the Utah game. We were better than both of those teams. That team should have been 11-2, and they were all recruited by Chuck Long. Strange. It really is crazy when you think about that season. Mizzou game was ours and we gave it away (with help from the refs on that last td). Utah won because of the hail mary td at the end of H1. BYU loss by 3 - fumblegate. And then we lost by 5 at TCU who ended up the season #2 in the nation. I actually forgot about the BYU game. So in reality, you can point to three plays. Should have gone 12-1. That team was amazing.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 19, 2017 13:12:20 GMT -8
Hmmm...actually just trolling, don't mind me....
as the conversation involves histronics involving Wyoming, I recall some ten years earlier the Pokes were in the Holiday Bowl against OSU and their star Running Back Barry Sanders.
Because both teams had potent offenses it resulted in a ridiculously high over/under, which I couldn't resist. When it became painfully obvious I was going to get no help from Wyoming, it was about how many more points the other Pokes could score. It wasn't until the fourth quarter that an OSU score broke the over and I was pretty much the only one in the stadium standing up and cheering.
My post is about San Diego sports history beyond the Aztecs. It pains me to know that The Holiday Bowl may well be yet another casualty. After spending the last weekend in Vegas, it also pains me to know San Diego sports may well end up in a vacuum.
(What, no good?)
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Post by northcountymike on Jul 19, 2017 15:52:38 GMT -8
Hmmm...actually just trolling, don't mind me.... as the conversation involves histronics involving Wyoming, I recall some ten years earlier the Pokes were in the Holiday Bowl against OSU and their star Running Back Barry Sanders. Because both teams had potent offenses it resulted in a ridiculously high over/under, which I couldn't resist. When it became painfully obvious I was going to get no help from Wyoming, it was about how many more points the other Pokes could score. It wasn't until the fourth quarter that an OSU score broke the over and I was pretty much the only one in the stadium standing up and cheering. My post is about San Diego sports history beyond the Aztecs. It pains me to know that The Holiday Bowl may well be yet another casualty. After spending the last weekend in Vegas, it also pains me to know San Diego sports may well end up in a vacuum. (What, no good?) It's just the San Diego way!
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Post by tonatiuh on Jul 21, 2017 19:45:50 GMT -8
So here's the funny thing... I was talking with Billy and Mike Malano after the Cal game last year and both of them said that Christian is just as good as Billy was... They talked about the offense being so different and that Christian's receivers are just not as good as Bill had. I can agree with that. Christian doesn't have the same weapons as that team, and Christian is very talented. Having said that, Billy Blanton was the man!!!! I'd take him in my foxhole any day!!! Are you talking about the whole team, or just one player? Chapman is good and he doesn't need to have all the weapons of a particular team. He has some of the best special talents which make him a winner. That is the main reason he was named on the Johnny Unitas watch list this season! Last year he threw for almost 2000 yds., and 20 TD's with only 6 INT's, but most important of all he is 4-0 in games that count! 2 and 0 in MW Championship games and 2-0 in very good bowl games (beat both Cincy & Houston from the AAC!) Those are some of the most important stats to have!
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Post by tonatiuh on Jul 21, 2017 19:47:43 GMT -8
I didn't realize that Wyoming was ranked 16 at the time. Sorry! Not only that , but they came into the Murph' undefeated, so they were not just any team.
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Post by fanhood on Jul 22, 2017 5:28:59 GMT -8
I can agree with that. Christian doesn't have the same weapons as that team, and Christian is very talented. Having said that, Billy Blanton was the man!!!! I'd take him in my foxhole any day!!! Are you talking about the whole team, or just one player? Chapman is good and he doesn't need to have all the weapons of a particular team. He has some of the best special talents which make him a winner. That is the main reason he was named on the Johnny Unitas watch list this season! Last year he threw for almost 2000 yds., and 20 TD's with only 6 INT's, but most important of all he is 4-0 in games that count! 2 and 0 in MW Championship games and 2-0 in very good bowl games (beat both Cincy & Houston from the AAC!) Those are some of the most important stats to have! I think Blanton had better support at WR. He had three NFL WRs at one point in Jacquet, Hakim, and Blackwell. Chapman however, had a great season last year. Just look at his efficiency, accuracy, TD to TO ratio. If he even improves slightly this year, we could be looking at one of the best seasons in Aztec history.
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 22, 2017 5:34:25 GMT -8
I don't remember them being slow.
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