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Post by RiffelBooks on Nov 3, 2016 20:57:52 GMT -8
Very proud of this very classy men's basketball program tonight.
In the midst of all the national anthem protests among athletes the past couple of months, our players and coaches stood, mixed in together and linked arms. Black/white, old/young. A great show of solidarity far more meaningful than sitting off by yourself.
Without getting too preachy, unity is the only way we're going to solve some of these problems our society is having. The Aztecs showed how that works. Good job, players and coaches.
(and, yeah, the game and the dancing kid were great, too)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 21:20:29 GMT -8
I too am proud of our guys.
I would have been equally as proud of one or all of them if they had chosen to sit during the national anthem in protest of the systemic racial inequality that our country is steeped in.
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Post by northcountymike on Nov 3, 2016 23:51:06 GMT -8
Just curious, would there be any way to "not be proud" of them? I didn't think so. Stand up, sit down, turn away, or whatever during the anthem. Someone's always going to be "proud" no matter what, so why is this even a "thing?"
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Post by northcountymike on Nov 3, 2016 23:54:28 GMT -8
I too am proud of our guys. I would have been equally as proud of one or all of them if they had chosen to sit during the national anthem in protest of the systemic racial inequality that our country is steeped in. What if someone were to protest all of the other "systemic" injustices and inequalities that exist during the anthem? Would that be ok and should we still be proud of them for doing so, or is it only this one particular issue that we have to be proud of people for taking a stand on?
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 4, 2016 3:24:39 GMT -8
It's a propaganda song ritual that promotes worshipping a cheaply made piece of cloth from Indochina.
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Post by alohaboarder on Nov 4, 2016 4:02:46 GMT -8
I too am proud of our guys. I would have been equally as proud of one or all of them if they had chosen to sit during the national anthem in protest of the systemic racial inequality that our country is steeped in. Been watching CNN a little much?
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Post by fanhood on Nov 4, 2016 4:20:41 GMT -8
Very proud of this very classy men's basketball program tonight. In the midst of all the national anthem protests among athletes the past couple of months, our players and coaches stood, mixed in together and linked arms. Black/white, old/young. A great show of solidarity far more meaningful than sitting off by yourself. Without getting too preachy, unity is the only way we're going to solve some of these problems our society is having. The Aztecs showed how that works. Good job, players and coaches. (and, yeah, the game and the dancing kid were great, too) I would be unable to support the program if the players made any sort of political statement during the National Anthem. Not that I am against political action, rather because the issue many are protesting is a manufactured one.
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Post by fanhood on Nov 4, 2016 4:26:12 GMT -8
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 4, 2016 4:31:20 GMT -8
Very proud of this very classy men's basketball program tonight. In the midst of all the national anthem protests among athletes the past couple of months, our players and coaches stood, mixed in together and linked arms. Black/white, old/young. A great show of solidarity far more meaningful than sitting off by yourself. Without getting too preachy, unity is the only way we're going to solve some of these problems our society is having. The Aztecs showed how that works. Good job, players and coaches. (and, yeah, the game and the dancing kid were great, too) This subject is probably going to have to move to the "politics" section (could be a fun one!), but I'm with you on this one.
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 4, 2016 4:31:21 GMT -8
33,000 Americans dead and 82,000 wounded each year from firearms is a manufactured issue?
Over 2,500 Americans (both black and white) killed each year from bullets fired by cops?
And we don't even really know the exact number because we don't have a national gun death/injury database, nor do we keep statistics on cop-civilian killings for our nation as a whole?
You can say you're proud, angry, disgruntled, sad, outraged, enthusiastic, gleeful about national anthem protests. But one thing you can't say, with any modicum of honesty, is that what some of these athletes are protesting isn't an important issue.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 4, 2016 4:37:00 GMT -8
Very proud of this very classy men's basketball program tonight. In the midst of all the national anthem protests among athletes the past couple of months, our players and coaches stood, mixed in together and linked arms. Black/white, old/young. A great show of solidarity far more meaningful than sitting off by yourself. Without getting too preachy, unity is the only way we're going to solve some of these problems our society is having. The Aztecs showed how that works. Good job, players and coaches. (and, yeah, the game and the dancing kid were great, too) I would be unable to support the program if the players made any sort of political statement during the National Anthem. Not that I am against political action, rather because the issue many are protesting is a manufactured one. Agree, and the disrespect to the thousands of lives lost (black, brown and white) that died so we (and Japan, Europe and South Korea) can live in relative freedom and peace....
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 4, 2016 5:03:54 GMT -8
I would be unable to support the program if the players made any sort of political statement during the National Anthem. Not that I am against political action, rather because the issue many are protesting is a manufactured one. Agree, and the disrespect to the thousands of lives lost (black, brown and white) that died so we (and Japan, Europe and South Korea) can live in relative freedom and peace.... So the American flag represents only the interests of military activities overseas and any disrespect shown to it is a de facto disrespect of our nation's military? I don't get it. Seriously, I don't. I thought those people died to protect our freedoms, including our first amendment rights -- rights that may or may not include making a political protest in front of the starts and stripes.
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Post by azteccc on Nov 4, 2016 6:19:42 GMT -8
Can we not
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Post by fanhood on Nov 4, 2016 6:22:38 GMT -8
Don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative.......see posted articles.
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Post by KDub on Nov 4, 2016 6:27:50 GMT -8
Another sweet part of the game last night was that kid dancing on the big screen in the second half. Dude was straight up Ballin! I wish I had half the moves of that 10-year-old!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 6:32:32 GMT -8
I too am proud of our guys. I would have been equally as proud of one or all of them if they had chosen to sit during the national anthem in protest of the systemic racial inequality that our country is steeped in. Been watching CNN a little much? No I don't watch televised news
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 7:18:27 GMT -8
Let me guess, NPR.
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Post by retiredaztec on Nov 4, 2016 7:31:48 GMT -8
Very proud of this very classy men's basketball program tonight. In the midst of all the national anthem protests among athletes the past couple of months, our players and coaches stood, mixed in together and linked arms. Black/white, old/young. A great show of solidarity far more meaningful than sitting off by yourself. Without getting too preachy, unity is the only way we're going to solve some of these problems our society is having. The Aztecs showed how that works. Good job, players and coaches. (and, yeah, the game and the dancing kid were great, too)
That about says it all. In my day it was, "united we stand, divided we fall". As the ultimate pragmatist you need only to look at the rise and fall of the Greek, Roman and Egyptian Empires, to get a clue..NO country or nation is invulnerable to divisiveness.
It just eats away.
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 4, 2016 7:41:24 GMT -8
Very proud of this very classy men's basketball program tonight. In the midst of all the national anthem protests among athletes the past couple of months, our players and coaches stood, mixed in together and linked arms. Black/white, old/young. A great show of solidarity far more meaningful than sitting off by yourself. Without getting too preachy, unity is the only way we're going to solve some of these problems our society is having. The Aztecs showed how that works. Good job, players and coaches. (and, yeah, the game and the dancing kid were great, too)
That about says it all. In my day it was, "united we stand, divided we fall". As the ultimate pragmatist you need only to look at the rise and fall of the Greek, Roman and Egyptian Empires, to get a clue..NO country or nation is invulnerable to divisiveness.
It just eats away. What are you guys talking about? Seriously? Back in your day no one disrespected the flag? Really? I just wrote a book about the Vietnam War. And I just finished an op-ed piece about my uncle who, upon his return from combat at SFO, was jeered and spit on by his fellow Americans. Taking a knee during the anthem at a stupid NFL game is tame by comparison. And don't get me wrong -- I'm not a flag-burning advocate. It's just that we should maintain a sense of history and proportion.
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Post by Zuma on Nov 4, 2016 7:51:55 GMT -8
f x x x this thread
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