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Post by keepersdsu on Apr 11, 2016 8:56:22 GMT -8
UCLA and USC are right down the street from where he is from. Would love him at SDSU, but I can't see him not going to the PAC12. Maybe this kid is different and he learned a lesson at DUKE that will benefit the Aztecs. We will see...
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Post by jibron on Apr 11, 2016 8:56:47 GMT -8
He pretty much can go anywhere he wants....If he wants to come here play D and doesn't mind sharing the ball then I'm all for it. I didn't really keep up with how he did throughout the season, but the dookie fans are saying his defense will be missed. Hopefully he sees that we fit his style of play.
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Post by fisherville on Apr 11, 2016 10:47:00 GMT -8
I think having two point guards at SDSU would be great. I think Kell is a small ball 3 anyways. Also I think Hemsley would be a great 2 if need be. Hemsley can play either position very well. He was a good 3 point shooter till his injury. If a starting point guard at duke wants to come to sdsu, we should welcome him with open arms Kell is most definitely not a small ball 3, his defense is much better served defending SG's. Recruiting over Hemsley after a very good freshman year would not be good for relationships with AAU coaches in california
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Post by johnnyutah on Apr 11, 2016 10:58:25 GMT -8
I think having two point guards at SDSU would be great. I think Kell is a small ball 3 anyways. Also I think Hemsley would be a great 2 if need be. Hemsley can play either position very well. He was a good 3 point shooter till his injury. If a starting point guard at duke wants to come to sdsu, we should welcome him with open arms Kell is most definitely not a small ball 3, his defense is much better served defending SG's. Recruiting over Hemsley after a very good freshman year would not be good for relationships with AAU coaches in california Let's pretend Thornton wanted to come here. If he did, you could go to a 3-guard line-up and play small and wouldn't "recruit over" anyone. Think the 11-12 team where we basically started 4 guards. Not saying that would happen, but it seems reasonable to have the kid come here and adjust your line-up/style to get the best players on the court.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 11, 2016 11:05:05 GMT -8
I think having Kell at the 3 with Hemsley and Thornton at the 1 and 2 would be interesting. Kell wouldn't be ideal defensively there but I think he'd be adequate, and we might make up for it with how well our offense could do. I wouldn't dismiss that playing style. I do think it's a long shot he comes here, and even if he wanted to I agree with fisherville that it'd be sketchy to recruit over Hemsley like that. Hemsley is a terrific player in his own right, we need a big a LOT more than we need another PG, no matter how good this guy is
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Post by ignoranus on Apr 11, 2016 11:18:13 GMT -8
Hemsley might be even better playing alongside Thornton. Certainly knows him from HS days.
Also, I'm sure that Teki will have quite a bit to say about how floor time is divided.
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Post by hoobs on Apr 11, 2016 11:22:27 GMT -8
Playing 3 (or 4) guards at a time certainly didn't seem to hurt Villanova too much this season (or, just about any season in the previous decade or so since Jay Wright moved to that formula).
But in fact, think about it this way... you have 80 minutes/game of playing time for PG & SG. If Hemsley, Kell, and Thornton played 30 mins/game each... all three would be on the court together for only about 10 minutes per game.
I think Thornton would fit into the rotation quite well, without Hemsley or Kell sacrificing much (if any) playing time. Furthermore, Thornton would be eligible after Pope presumably declares for the NBA after his Junior season... which seems like a good time to me to have another elite player joining the rotation, albeit at a different position.
But yes, as stated, we could still use a "big" but there's room for both Thornton + a "big to be named later."
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Post by fisherville on Apr 11, 2016 12:24:43 GMT -8
Kell is most definitely not a small ball 3, his defense is much better served defending SG's. Recruiting over Hemsley after a very good freshman year would not be good for relationships with AAU coaches in california Let's pretend Thornton wanted to come here. If he did, you could go to a 3-guard line-up and play small and wouldn't "recruit over" anyone. Think the 11-12 team where we basically started 4 guards. Not saying that would happen, but it seems reasonable to have the kid come here and adjust your line-up/style to get the best players on the court. Moving Hemsley off ball is the same thing, also that 11-12 team is our worst defensive team since 2006.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 11, 2016 12:24:52 GMT -8
Now the #1 transfer on ESPN
Top 10 available transfers 1. Derryck Thornton, Duke Blue Devils Thornton, a former five-star recruit, reclassified last spring in order to enroll at Duke a year early. He played more than 26 minutes per game, but couldn't lock down the starting point guard role and would have also had to compete with five-star freshman Frank Jackson next season. Expect him to look at schools out west.
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Post by fisherville on Apr 11, 2016 12:29:36 GMT -8
Playing 3 (or 4) guards at a time certainly didn't seem to hurt Villanova too much this season (or, just about any season in the previous decade or so since Jay Wright moved to that formula). But in fact, think about it this way... you have 80 minutes/game of playing time for PG & SG. If Hemsley, Kell, and Thornton played 30 mins/game each... all three would be on the court together for only about 10 minutes per game. I think Thornton would fit into the rotation quite well, without Hemsley or Kell sacrificing much (if any) playing time. Furthermore, Thornton would be eligible after Pope presumably declares for the NBA after his Junior season... which seems like a good time to me to have another elite player joining the rotation, albeit at a different position. But yes, as stated, we could still use a "big" but there's room for both Thornton + a "big to be named later." I realize there is room for Thornton and a big, I'd much rather look for a sit out wing than PG. And Kell/Hemsley aren't going to just play 30 MPG as JR/SRs
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Post by docmm on Apr 11, 2016 12:37:31 GMT -8
Yes, he's a stud, but we need bigs more than guards.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 11, 2016 12:41:52 GMT -8
Playing 3 (or 4) guards at a time certainly didn't seem to hurt Villanova too much this season (or, just about any season in the previous decade or so since Jay Wright moved to that formula). But in fact, think about it this way... you have 80 minutes/game of playing time for PG & SG. If Hemsley, Kell, and Thornton played 30 mins/game each... all three would be on the court together for only about 10 minutes per game. I think Thornton would fit into the rotation quite well, without Hemsley or Kell sacrificing much (if any) playing time. Furthermore, Thornton would be eligible after Pope presumably declares for the NBA after his Junior season... which seems like a good time to me to have another elite player joining the rotation, albeit at a different position. But yes, as stated, we could still use a "big" but there's room for both Thornton + a "big to be named later." I realize there is room for Thornton and a big, I'd much rather look for a sit out wing than PG. And Kell/Hemsley aren't going to just play 30 MPG as JR/SRs Are you sure about that? Trey & Win played more minutes than anyone and neither averaged 30 minutes per game on the season. Obviously that's higher during conference play where both played just over 30, but not by much. Plus, you can play them across any of 3 guard positions, so 120 available minutes, which could go to these 3 + Teki (& maybe a little Hoetzel at the 3).
Like you said, we definitely can use a "big", but if we do add a 2nd player for next year I'd think it'd be the BEST player you go get, regardless of their position.
PS. In talking to Fish yesterday I really got the feeling they were looking to add 1 more this spring/summer, but really pushing for 2017 right now.
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Post by oxomo on Apr 11, 2016 14:58:18 GMT -8
USC appears to be the favorite right now.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 11, 2016 15:56:08 GMT -8
Now the #1 transfer on ESPN
Top 10 available transfers1. Derryck Thornton, Duke Blue Devils Thornton, a former five-star recruit, reclassified last spring in order to enroll at Duke a year early. He played more than 26 minutes per game, but couldn't lock down the starting point guard role and would have also had to compete with five-star freshman Frank Jackson next season. Expect him to look at schools out west. Please see the the link. It may be becuse he was so young but if you look at all of his metrics, he was not very good at all last year. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duke/2016.html
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Post by fisherville on Apr 11, 2016 21:49:19 GMT -8
Now the #1 transfer on ESPN
Top 10 available transfers1. Derryck Thornton, Duke Blue Devils Thornton, a former five-star recruit, reclassified last spring in order to enroll at Duke a year early. He played more than 26 minutes per game, but couldn't lock down the starting point guard role and would have also had to compete with five-star freshman Frank Jackson next season. Expect him to look at schools out west. Please see the the link. It may be becuse he was so young but if you look at all of his metrics, he was not very good at all last year. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duke/2016.htmlHe's going to be good, not sure about NBA good, but he was good on defense as a Freshman, he needs to get physically more mature, and keep in mind he is younger than Josh Jackson.
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Post by fisherville on Apr 11, 2016 21:53:01 GMT -8
I realize there is room for Thornton and a big, I'd much rather look for a sit out wing than PG. And Kell/Hemsley aren't going to just play 30 MPG as JR/SRs Are you sure about that? Trey & Win played more minutes than anyone and neither averaged 30 minutes per game on the season. Obviously that's higher during conference play where both played just over 30, but not by much. Plus, you can play them across any of 3 guard positions, so 120 available minutes, which could go to these 3 + Teki (& maybe a little Hoetzel at the 3).
Like you said, we definitely can use a "big", but if we do add a 2nd player for next year I'd think it'd be the BEST player you go get, regardless of their position.
PS. In talking to Fish yesterday I really got the feeling they were looking to add 1 more this spring/summer, but really pushing for 2017 right now.
Yeah, love Winston for all he has done for SDSU but he wasn't on the floor at times cause he hampered the offense with his shooting/inefficiency. Look at 2014-2015, where JJ played 32.9 MPG. If Hemsley/Kell are going to progress like most SDSU fans think they are (and I love both but don't think either are legit NBA prospects), than they will be in that 31-33 MPG range as upperclassman.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 11, 2016 22:52:35 GMT -8
USC appears to be the favorite right now. McLaughlin may be done by the time he is egible. SC promised Melton he could learn to play the point. Looks like he would be odd man out.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 15, 2016 6:27:28 GMT -8
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Post by Gundo on Apr 18, 2016 18:05:40 GMT -8
Didn't see this coming, that's the ultimate FU for Coach K and Duke. Thornton shows up talking Kansas in Durham.
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Post by standiego on Apr 18, 2016 20:01:05 GMT -8
Jayhawks also recently signed the top HS SG/SF in the country for 2016 . Josh Jackson
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