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Post by aztecvatar on Feb 10, 2016 22:37:46 GMT -8
wrong. that's not all the coaching staff can do. how about making some adjustments to beat the zone instead of sitting back while the players jack up ill-advised 3 pointers. Who says they didn't? Players have to perform. But if it's easier to blame coaching, go ahead. It don't cost nothin'. Yeah, sit back and watch the same players make the same mistakes each trip down the court. Great learning experience for the kids. Sign of a great coach.
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Feb 10, 2016 22:38:04 GMT -8
I saw more horrible passes in that game than in an entire month of games. That was the difference right there.
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Post by Gundo on Feb 10, 2016 22:38:59 GMT -8
No reason to lose when they were missing three Bigs. TOs, missed FTs, sloppy play, poor play!
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Post by aztecdan8 on Feb 10, 2016 22:39:37 GMT -8
We are so in-ept on offense, we should have blown out this team! Too many times these guys get up 8-10 points and then start playing silly with house money and guess what the other guys catch up. Play smart, protect your leads and put your opponents away so you can read your clippings the next day! They did it twice tonight, once in each half. Double digit lead, then they all go hero ball on offense by cranking up poor shots, and lag on defense to boot. Often, bad O leads to easy O for the other team. That was the case tonight. Any decent P12 team beats us by 20+ tonight. So frustrating to watch this team so many games. I can;t help myself, I'll keep watching
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Post by oldie on Feb 10, 2016 22:44:23 GMT -8
Too many times these guys get up 8-10 points and then start playing silly with house money and guess what the other guys catch up. Play smart, protect your leads and put your opponents away so you can read your clippings the next day! They did it twice tonight, once in each half. Double digit lead, then they all go hero ball on offense by cranking up poor shots, and lag on defense to boot. Often, bad O leads to easy O for the other team. That was the case tonight. Any decent P12 team beats us by 20+ tonight. So frustrating to watch this team so many games. I can;t help myself, I'll keep watching how many times did they give up 6 to 12 point leads? Big heads got in the way and let fres back in the game. aztecs deserved to lose, free deserved the win.
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Post by jdaztec on Feb 10, 2016 22:45:05 GMT -8
Our Seniors can't be real leaders because they don't have a high Basketball IQ (doesn't mean they don't care). It really hurts when we need to make adjustments or need composure late.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Feb 10, 2016 22:50:06 GMT -8
I had a sick feeling they would pi$$ this game away. They had 2 of Fresno's starters out and another rolled his ankle in the game. Should have been easy and I'm sure that's what they were thinking but Fresno never caved in! SAD!
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Post by jdaztec on Feb 10, 2016 22:53:19 GMT -8
If we hit even 2/3 of our free throws we win. Maybe we needed to get this one out of our system so we can finish strong.
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Post by oldie on Feb 10, 2016 22:56:52 GMT -8
at half time, fisher said something about the team rushing and playing out of control and they would have to settle down. never did, until the last few minutes when they just held the ball until a couple of seconds were left on the shot clock and heaved up a sloppy grade school throw the ball at the basket shot. classless tonight
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on Feb 10, 2016 23:08:36 GMT -8
I guess the naysayers will say it is time for Fish to hang them up and retire, pass over Dutch and hire some other coach because Dutch has been ruined by Fish. Wake up naysayers, we lost 3 5th year seniors from last year and the growing pains are apparent.
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Post by mySTRAS on Feb 10, 2016 23:12:34 GMT -8
We squeaked by CSU... and UNM (ahem ahem)... at home. Is this really that big of a surprise?
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 11, 2016 0:11:39 GMT -8
Terrible last shot, Kell mid range, leaning/falling to right. Kell sucked tonight, why is he taking the last shot. Hemsley the closest to a go to guy. They deserved the win, we deserved to lose. Mentally soft. So soft. Give it a rest with the Kell bashing all night. He's had a GREAT year so far and has hit plenty of big shots. Yes, either Kell, or Hemsley should take the last shot and one of them did. No regrets.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 11, 2016 0:16:51 GMT -8
Zero idea why ball wasn't in Hemsleys hands for final play. He's quick enough w 7 sec left to drive and make a pass or shoot it. Kell was always going to shoot it and offensively wasn't a factor in 2ND half. Goddammit! Well at least you folks have nice weather. It's 3° in Dayton. Kell was not only not a factor in the second half, he was horrible. Less than zero sense that he took the last shot. The result was exactly the subpar result I would expect. Less than zero sense? You have no basketball IQ. How many big shots has he hit for us this year? A lot. Kell must've banged your girlfriend or something, the way you bash him. Sheesh.
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Post by northcountymike on Feb 11, 2016 1:41:00 GMT -8
We are so in-ept on offense, we should have blown out this team! Too many times these guys get up 8-10 points and then start playing silly with house money and guess what the other guys catch up. Play smart, protect your leads and put your opponents away so you can read your clippings the next day! This is what I said in another thread...it seems like the hallmark of recent Aztec teams. I'm not sure if it's a Fisher thing or what. All I know is that it always seems like we let up a little when we have a lead. Just once, I'd like to see Fisher put the pedal to the metal and demoralize teams that we are beating instead of eeking out 2 and 3-point wins (or in this case, a 1-point loss). The truth is (and has been for a few years now) that the team looks like it plays to not lose, rather than to win.
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Post by northcountymike on Feb 11, 2016 1:45:55 GMT -8
Kell was not only not a factor in the second half, he was horrible. Less than zero sense that he took the last shot. The result was exactly the subpar result I would expect. Less than zero sense? You have no basketball IQ. How many big shots has he hit for us this year? A lot. Kell must've banged your girlfriend or something, the way you bash him. Sheesh. Sure, Kell has hit some huge shots for us this year and is one of the key reasons for our 1-loss conference record. However, aztecdan isn't dismissing that fact, he stated in this post and a previous one as well, that Kell was "horrible" tonight.
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Post by Texaz on Feb 11, 2016 6:29:02 GMT -8
We squeaked by CSU... and UNM (ahem ahem)... at home. Is this really that big of a surprise? We are very fortunate to be 11-1 in conference. Our conference is terrible and we are getting one bid for the NCAA tournament. I hope the team learns from this loss and quits playing to our competition.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 11, 2016 9:39:23 GMT -8
Less than zero sense? You have no basketball IQ. How many big shots has he hit for us this year? A lot. Kell must've banged your girlfriend or something, the way you bash him. Sheesh. Sure, Kell has hit some huge shots for us this year and is one of the key reasons for our 1-loss conference record. However, aztecdan isn't dismissing that fact, he stated in this post and a previous one as well, that Kell was "horrible" tonight. Well he was absolutely wrong saying he was horrible tonight. He wasn't horrible. As a matter of fact, the only thing horrible was Aztecdan's statement. I think it's great that since Kell is having such a great, people think that a 16 point performance along with good is "horrible." SMH
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Post by northcountymike on Feb 11, 2016 11:39:52 GMT -8
Sure, Kell has hit some huge shots for us this year and is one of the key reasons for our 1-loss conference record. However, aztecdan isn't dismissing that fact, he stated in this post and a previous one as well, that Kell was "horrible" tonight. Well he was absolutely wrong saying he was horrible tonight. He wasn't horrible. As a matter of fact, the only thing horrible was Aztecdan's statement. I think it's great that since Kell is having such a great, people think that a 16 point performance along with good is "horrible." SMH Well, I suppose there are other measures that can demonstrate how "great" a night was besides simply how many points a guy puts up.
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Post by dunksalot on Feb 11, 2016 12:57:17 GMT -8
The blueprint for beating us was on display last night: (a) Pack in the zone and force 3-pt shots, and (b) don't let Winston get his post game going.
We did show better motion and ball movement than pre-MWC games. Unfortunately, we did force the ball into a tight zone too often. Some passes - while the right idea - were tipped just enough to become a TO. Winning @ Fresno is not easy for us. Mainly because they have solid guard play and that's a hallmark of teams that do beat us.
Pope, while improving, is still hesitating and that (my opinion) will knock 25% off his FG%. Coaches need to build his confidence I can't figure out why they don't see what appears to be a simple thing I could fix in a few hours of tape and practice. Losing to a team without its' top rebounders is embarrassing but then again this team seems OK to play down to the level of its competition.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 11, 2016 13:35:26 GMT -8
Well he was absolutely wrong saying he was horrible tonight. He wasn't horrible. As a matter of fact, the only thing horrible was Aztecdan's statement. I think it's great that since Kell is having such a great, people think that a 16 point performance along with good is "horrible." SMH Well, I suppose there are other measures that can demonstrate how "great" a night was besides simply how many points a guy puts up. The word that I left out after great was season, which is what he is having. He had a good game yesterday, not great and absolutely not horrible that's for sure. Just putting posters in check who need to be.
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