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Post by gamer2101 on Oct 8, 2015 11:37:18 GMT -8
With all the QB issues we've been having since Ryan left, I started to wonder. I haven't been around long enough to watch a lot of his games while I college. He seemed to be having a real tough time in the pros. IMHO it seems that he was very similar to the guys we've been having since his departure. Is the accurate?
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Post by aztech on Oct 8, 2015 11:52:26 GMT -8
We have to go to the spread instead of stubbornly clinging to the pro set. Most high schools play the spread now. The pro set pool is getting smaller and smaller and the good ones go to the P5 schools. We get their leftovers.
IIRC Rocky's reasoning to stay with the pro set is because teams aren't familiar defending it. Well if we can't get good QBs to run it then what's the point?
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Post by douchey1 on Oct 8, 2015 12:11:25 GMT -8
We haven't had a good QB since David Lowry. Santos fed me during college. For the youngsters ,fans with tickets would get a free square pan meal deal everytime he threw over I think 300yrs. Usually nail it by halftime or 3rd quarter
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 8, 2015 12:16:33 GMT -8
I wonder how good the Sr. transfer we got from Oregon State would have been if he wasn't injured. It looks like rent-a-seniors are better for SDSU BB than FB. JMO  |
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 8, 2015 12:20:13 GMT -8
I'd say Lindley has probably been the best in the last 10 years. He won't be a starter in the pros, but he did get drafted.
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Post by sdsudevil on Oct 8, 2015 12:22:53 GMT -8
Hard to say, we saw him with DeMarco, Vincent, and I suppose throw in Escobar and Sandifer.
Chicken or egg, who made the other look good?
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Post by aztech on Oct 8, 2015 12:23:50 GMT -8
We haven't had a good QB since David Lowry. Santos fed me during college. For the youngsters ,fans with tickets would get a free square pan meal deal everytime he threw over I think 300yrs. Usually nail it by halftime or 3rd quarter
No question that we had some good QBs back then, but those were the days when everybody played the pro set with some shotgun thrown in. See my post, above. I'm surprised our players aren't wearing single bar face guard helmets. LOL
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 8, 2015 12:34:18 GMT -8
I thought Billy Blanton was as good/better than Lowry |
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Post by Sdsu4life on Oct 8, 2015 13:02:52 GMT -8
I'd say Lindley has probably been the best in the last 10 years. He won't be a starter in the pros, but he did get drafted. I don't think what they did after SDSU should play a factor. We are a college team. So, our "best" quarterback should be a guy who was the best for US, not whether he amounted to anything after college. The best college player should be judged 100% on his time in college, not also include how successful they were in the pros. Practically two different sports. Some of the greatest collegiate football players in its entire history either never played in the pros or never did much in the pros. People make the mistake thinking that in order to judge how good an collegiate player was, we must judge how good of a pro player he was. |
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Post by McQuervo on Oct 8, 2015 13:43:44 GMT -8
Everybody forgets about Kevin O'Connell. By far better than Lindley...
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Post by sdsu2000 on Oct 8, 2015 13:46:01 GMT -8
I'd go with O'Connell. Lindley had Hillman, Young, Brown, Sampson and Escobar around him which made him look better. O'Connell didn't have much of anything. He also suffered Chuck Long's first year where the offense started off with a smash mouth style and after a few games they switched to a spread. Then the team was so bad around him one year he didn't have time to throw, a running back couldn't get a yard and receivers couldn't catch that he basically had to take off running almost every play. I feel if O'Connell would have played on Lindley's 2010 team we might have had an even better season.
But you can't knock either because both ended up in the NFL and that's something none of us have ever done.
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Post by standiego on Oct 8, 2015 14:00:06 GMT -8
Shows the major problem at SDSU . Poor recruitment and development of QB's at SDSU for the last 10 years . In today's game We can not win with out having quality QB's . Have had numerous quality RB's but without the QB we are going no where in games against quality opponents or win an MW championship .
Debate should be who is in charge of recruiting and developing them Now and going forward . Is it our HC , OC or QB coach? would like some one to step up and take responsibility
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Post by aztecjake on Oct 8, 2015 14:54:28 GMT -8
Yes!
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Post by fisherville on Oct 8, 2015 15:00:25 GMT -8
Lindley by far.
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 8, 2015 15:05:28 GMT -8
I'd say Lindley has probably been the best in the last 10 years. He won't be a starter in the pros, but he did get drafted. I don't think what they did after SDSU should play a factor. We are a college team. So, our "best" quarterback should be a guy who was the best for US, not whether he amounted to anything after college. The best college player should be judged 100% on his time in college, not also include how successful they were in the pros. Practically two different sports. Some of the greatest collegiate football players in its entire history either never played in the pros or never did much in the pros. People make the mistake thinking that in order to judge how good an collegiate player was, we must judge how good of a pro player he was. In the last 10 years who had better stats as a QB at SDSU than Lindley? He was a four-year starter if I remember correctly. He threw for more yards than Santos I think. Santos' career record had existed for decades. So, fine, leave out the fact that he has played for the New England Patriots in the role of a backup. Who was better in the last 10 years? |
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Post by Sdsu4life on Oct 8, 2015 15:16:52 GMT -8
I don't think what they did after SDSU should play a factor. We are a college team. So, our "best" quarterback should be a guy who was the best for US, not whether he amounted to anything after college. The best college player should be judged 100% on his time in college, not also include how successful they were in the pros. Practically two different sports. Some of the greatest collegiate football players in its entire history either never played in the pros or never did much in the pros. People make the mistake thinking that in order to judge how good an collegiate player was, we must judge how good of a pro player he was. In the last 10 years who had better stats as a QB at SDSU than Lindley? He was a four-year starter if I remember correctly. He threw for more yards than Santos I think. Santos' career record had existed for decades. So, fine, leave out the fact that he has played for the New England Patriots in the role of a backup. Who was better in the last 10 years? Huh? when did I said Lindley was or wasn't our best? All I was doing was commenting about your use of a collegiate player's pro career to determine if he was a good college player. |
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Post by Frantic on Oct 8, 2015 15:54:03 GMT -8
In the last 10 years who had better stats as a QB at SDSU than Lindley? He was a four-year starter if I remember correctly. He threw for more yards than Santos I think. Santos' career record had existed for decades. So, fine, leave out the fact that he has played for the New England Patriots in the role of a backup. Who was better in the last 10 years? It's Lindley and KO'C, and everyone else. KO'C played on some very bad teams through the 2007 season. Yet: - He started 21 games, the sixth-most among SDSU quarterbacks. - He is 1st all time in rushing yards among quarterbacks. - 2nd all time in career rushing touchdowns among quarterbacks. - 2007 he led the ENTIRE TEAM team in rushing yards. That year he also rushed for 11 TDs and passed for 15 TDs. - 10th all time in passing yardage. - 8th all time in passing attempts. - 7th all time in completions. - 5th all time in total offense. www.goaztecs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/oconnell_kevin00.html |
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Post by jdaztec on Oct 8, 2015 15:56:16 GMT -8
I liked O'Connell
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Post by Frantic on Oct 8, 2015 17:43:50 GMT -8
We haven't had a good QB since David Lowry. I loved Lowery and those were exciting times, but Billy Blanton is arguably the best Aztec QB of all time. Blanton's stats: #1 and #3 all-time passer rating in a season. (Lowery not in top 10) #1 all-time passer rating in a career. (Lowery not in top 10) #1 all-time completion percentage in a season. #1 all-time completion percentage in a career. #7 all-time completions over a career. (Lowery not in top 10) #7 all-time passing yards in a season. (Lowery not in top 10.) #3 all-time passing yards in a career. (Lowery #6). #4 all-time total offense. (Lowery #6). #4 all time completions. #2 and #8 all-time in passing TDs in a season. (Lowery not in top 10). #3 all-time passing TDs in a career. (Blanton 67. Lowery 44). #4 all-time wins. (Lowery #7). #1 all-time consecutive 300 yard games in a season. #1 all-time consecutive 300 yard games in a career. Overall, Blanton threw 67 TDs against 25 INTs. Lowery threw 44 TDs against 28 INTs. And get this: Blanton has the lowest interception percentage of any Aztec QB for a season and a career. grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/sdsu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/fb-14-records.pdf |
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 8, 2015 17:56:38 GMT -8
We haven't had a good QB since David Lowry. Santos fed me during college. For the youngsters ,fans with tickets would get a free square pan meal deal everytime he threw over I think 300yrs. Usually nail it by halftime or 3rd quarter With rare exception, one needs to be a good college QB to get drafted (Lindley and KO). Also, Blanton finished his career one of the highest rated QBs in NCAA history |
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