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Post by standiego on Oct 6, 2015 13:19:15 GMT -8
Rocky on 1090 radio today . Hawaii when they play at home is a totally different team then on the road . When at home other teams have a long trip and do not always adjust to the time clock . 6 o'clock game is 9 o'clock for the players . Aztecs arrive late about 4 or 5 on Friday . Guys go to Hotel for meals and meetings , game plan .... . Saturday go to the field and do walk through preps .... Very quick .Rocky asked ,do the guys have fun there , his answer NO , strictly business trip Adjustment for guys especially if you have not traveled there.. Hawaii knows it has advantage for the home game and their coaches use it. Can it neutralize talent who knows . Bottom line same game, who are the guys that can execute . Who wins the battle of the lines of scrimmage ? Plus very important QB , who has the better one and line to protect them ? Another problem , what time do the guys get back and be able to prep for the next game at San Jose ? Hawaii game should be over about midnight or later CA time .
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Post by HighNTight on Oct 6, 2015 13:20:58 GMT -8
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Post by thetruth on Oct 6, 2015 14:00:27 GMT -8
Seriously, "thetruth", it's not hard to interpret this. Long is NOT saying that Hawaii is equal to Penn State or Cal in talent. Nor he is saying that Hawaii is equal to USD in talent. He is saying that of all the teams on the schedule, the Aztecs are most equal in talent and physicality to Hawaii. Your second question belies that you did not understand this. There is plenty to criticize about Long, and it is unnecessary to misconstrue what he says to score points against him. It is also kind of lame to use coach speak from a press conference against him. Long is NOT going to give Hawaii any bulletin board material; if anything, he would talk them up. "Coach speak"? Come on. "legkick", all I'm asking (and feel free to chime in) is how Hawaii recruiting (talent) and physicality is on the same level as SDSU's? Simple question. Please don't deflect by suggesting that I am "misconstruing what he says to score points against him". I don't need to "score points", but I'm happy to hear that you and I agree that there is plenty to criticize when it comes to Long.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Oct 6, 2015 15:44:43 GMT -8
Good read. Lots of parallels between Hawaii & SDSU. Reminded me of this interview on 1090... "Mt. Carmel QB Lucas Johnson is committed to SDSU and he joined Scott and BR to talk about his decision to choose his hometown team over schools like Utah and what he thinks of Scott’s plan to only recruit San Diego players." www.mighty1090.com/episode/lucas-johnson-on-why-he-committed-to-sdsu/
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Post by junior on Oct 6, 2015 16:09:17 GMT -8
It will not be an easy feat for the Aztecs to win in Hawaii this week. The deck is stacked in Hawaii's favor. However, if we're saying that SDSU and UofH are "about as equal' as squat, then there's a real problem. All the hype surrounding this year and now they're equal to UofH? WTF?
I guess you get out of your team what you put into it. Maybe that explains how UofH is now an "equal" to SDSU. Good fscking grief. Someone in Hawaii putting something extra into their team - while someone in San Diego …
But all of this is clouding the issue. If the Aztecs win on Saturday night, it'll be a valid win in a tough situation against a decent team (this year). If they lose, then they have truly become an "equal" to Hawaii.
And that won't really be a good equal, either.
PS (If recruits aren't exactly clamoring to play on the Island considering Hawaii's lifestyle - how in the hell are they ever going to be attracted to play in San Diego's?)
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Post by standiego on Oct 6, 2015 16:48:28 GMT -8
Football players head to schools that can develop their talents , quality coaching staff and decent facilities , chance to get into Bowls ,prep them for an opportunity for NFL.... . Do not think weather is as much of a factor as some may hope . Do you want to recruit a guy who is coming here to head to the beach ? Yes it is great to have our climate but not The major factor in recruiting .
What QB , key player on offense , is a better talent SDSU's or U of H 's ? Also the line play ? We could have very talented RB's but as we have seen ,if they do not have holes to run through , that talent gets wasted and we have to focus back on the QB .
Hawaii has also played against better competition on the road ( Buckeyes, Badgers, BSU), so this is the opportunity for them to get back into the race for the very weak MW West division championship . So major motivation factor for them at home . They win and they are in the race , lose and they could be chasing other teams or be out of it . As the saying goes ,important who you play , but also when and where you play the other team . Home field advantage / some extra effort and points , for Mountain Schools and Hawaii at home .
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Post by HighNTight on Oct 7, 2015 12:03:01 GMT -8
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Oct 7, 2015 16:48:15 GMT -8
Rocky will say this every week from here on out. It's just a coach talking to the media Either that or out of his ass.
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Post by sdcoug on Oct 7, 2015 18:07:42 GMT -8
Seriously, "thetruth", it's not hard to interpret this. Long is NOT saying that Hawaii is equal to Penn State or Cal in talent. Nor he is saying that Hawaii is equal to USD in talent. He is saying that of all the teams on the schedule, the Aztecs are most equal in talent and physicality to Hawaii. Your second question belies that you did not understand this. There is plenty to criticize about Long, and it is unnecessary to misconstrue what he says to score points against him. It is also kind of lame to use coach speak from a press conference against him. Long is NOT going to give Hawaii any bulletin board material; if anything, he would talk them up. We'll said. Unreal how people are obsessed with dissecting ever word and twisting them. He has compared SDSUs units to our opponents and even compared teams. Has said Cal is best team we will play, etc. He's simply saying when you compare talent, we are closer to Hawaii than we were to PSU or Cal, and the gap is closer than it was for USD, etc, or at least as close as any team we'll pkay. Nothing wrong with that at all. He didn't say they're better than us. Hawaii has a highly recruited and talented QB, and some good units. I'd bet he'd be happy to say which of our units are better, equal or worse than Hawaii's but he's not going to give them BB material. In the press it's just standard coach speak.
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Post by hoobs on Oct 7, 2015 18:47:27 GMT -8
My issue is the "physicality" comment.
I don't mind (as much) being "out talented" by opposing squads (but that should have only been the case for Cal & Penn State on our schedule this season). However... "physicality" -- in my opinion -- is more about attitude and coaching (inclusive of Strength & Conditioning) than anything else. If we're truly "equal" to Hawaii... then our coaching staff has failed.
Maybe it's **coach-speak** for "I'm desperate to motivate these guys" but whatever... I'm very unhappy to hear a coach use that description.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 19:15:51 GMT -8
My issue is the "physicality" comment. I don't mind (as much) being "out talented" by opposing squads (but that should have only been the case for Cal & Penn State on our schedule this season). However... "physicality" -- in my opinion -- is more about attitude and coaching (inclusive of Strength & Conditioning) than anything else. If we're truly "equal" to Hawaii... then our coaching staff has failed. Maybe it's **coach-speak** for "I'm desperate to motivate these guys" but whatever... I'm very unhappy to hear a coach use that description. Did you consider that he may not actually believe that and he just said it to the media? You know, so that he doesn't give the other team any bulletin board material? Just a thought...
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Post by HighNTight on Oct 7, 2015 19:27:27 GMT -8
My issue is the "physicality" comment. I don't mind (as much) being "out talented" by opposing squads (but that should have only been the case for Cal & Penn State on our schedule this season). However... "physicality" -- in my opinion -- is more about attitude and coaching (inclusive of Strength & Conditioning) than anything else. If we're truly "equal" to Hawaii... then our coaching staff has failed. Maybe it's **coach-speak** for "I'm desperate to motivate these guys" but whatever... I'm very unhappy to hear a coach use that description. As someone who was stationed in Hawai'i for a period of time and saw quite a few football games there ... never underestimate the passion and physicality of the locals playing in front of their friends and family. There's a few reasons why Hawai'i is a better team at home than on the road, and one of them is that they will not be out-toughed in front of their friends, family, and entire culture.
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Post by hoobs on Oct 7, 2015 20:01:43 GMT -8
As a coach (& I did coach collegiate club lacrosse) I would NEVER say that another team would equal mine in "physicality." Hell no.
Say something else if you want vanilla "coaches' speak" but don't call out your own players as no better to equal another team in terms of physicality / toughness / etc. There are a near infinite number of alternate expressions to avoid bulletin board material. Unless you're trying to call out your own players for being soft. But holy hell is that a dangerous (& IMO foolish) mind game to play with your own team.
To me, the comment just reeks of being tired as a coach.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 22:19:56 GMT -8
As a coach (& I did coach collegiate club lacrosse) I would NEVER say that another team would equal mine in "physicality." Hell no. Say something else if you want vanilla "coaches' speak" but don't call out your own players as no better to equal another team in terms of physicality / toughness / etc. There are a near infinite number of alternate expressions to avoid bulletin board material. Unless you're trying to call out your own players for being soft. But holy hell is that a dangerous (& IMO foolish) mind game to play with your own team. To me, the comment just reeks of being tired as a coach. I was a D1 athlete and now also coach and I am not bothered one bit by his comment to the media. To me it's him saying blah, blah, blah to the media. If it was in a closed team meeting then it's a different issue but it wasn't. So it's a matter of opinion and we can agree to disagree.
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Post by hoobs on Oct 8, 2015 3:04:37 GMT -8
So it's a matter of opinion and we can agree to disagree. No worries
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Post by Spud on Oct 8, 2015 5:07:51 GMT -8
**Sigh** We are witnessing the end and there's nothing we can do about it...
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Oct 8, 2015 6:51:13 GMT -8
Rocky's been playing the similar talent card every week like he's holding a pair of jacks and trying to bluff his way through.
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Post by legkick on Oct 8, 2015 7:31:32 GMT -8
As a coach (& I did coach collegiate club lacrosse) I would NEVER say that another team would equal mine in "physicality." Hell no. Say something else if you want vanilla "coaches' speak" but don't call out your own players as no better to equal another team in terms of physicality / toughness / etc. There are a near infinite number of alternate expressions to avoid bulletin board material. Unless you're trying to call out your own players for being soft. But holy hell is that a dangerous (& IMO foolish) mind game to play with your own team. To me, the comment just reeks of being tired as a coach. Except he didn't say they were "equal" or "no better to equal". You are reading that into his statement, which is clearly coach speak. Lou Holtz was famous/infamous for talking up his opponents, and some (wrongly, I might add) inferred that by doing so he was poor mouthing his own team. I do have a general concern about the statement though. In my opinion, SDSU should be able to significantly outrecruit Hawaii, and they should at least be able to coach them up as well as Hawaii, so it isn't a good sign that they are even close to "about as equal" in any general aspect such as physicality or talent. If you're significantly outrecruiting Hawaii, you can use coach speak to say Hawaii is a tough team and have some real good players, but you wouldn't come close to even hinting that they are "about . . . equal".
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Post by danpatrick on Oct 8, 2015 8:00:45 GMT -8
goaztecs: .@coachlongsdsu says the Aztecs and Hawai'i are about as equal in talent and physicality as any team on the schedule this year. Actually legkick, that's exactly what he said. Verbatim. When our own coach compares the talent and physicality of Hawaii to SDSU, and calls them equal, we've got a real problem.
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Post by aztech on Oct 8, 2015 10:39:55 GMT -8
goaztecs: .@coachlongsdsu says the Aztecs and Hawai'i are about as equal in talent and physicality as any team on the schedule this year. Actually legkick, that's exactly what he said. Verbatim. When our own coach compares the talent and physicality of Hawaii to SDSU, and calls them equal, we've got a real problem. This is what he said AFTER the So Alabama game. There is no effen way we were supposed to be equal as 15+ point favorites. Now if he sincerely felt we were equal then let's face it, we're a lousy team. No excuses for that loss. We badly needed to win that game to prove we at least had a pulse.
SDSU head coach Rocky Long Opening Statement: “I think it was a very entertaining football game. I think it was two equally matched teams. I don’t know what anyone thought going in but it was two physically, equally matched teams that played hard, made some mistakes and made some plays. One team is happy and one team is not.”
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