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Post by sleepy on Apr 27, 2015 11:54:49 GMT -8
There's a lot of focus right now on what the right thing to do is for a stadium for SDSU. There's a bit of lower hanging fruit that I think most could agree on and would not significantly move the needle in terms of budget.
I'd like to see "bronze" statues completed in the "Big Three Sports" for Tony Gwynn and Marshall Faulk and placed on the grass area near the steps that lead to the main entrance of Viejas Arena (Marshall's could be later moved to any on-campus stadium that is completed if the feeling is that is what needs to be done).
Of course, this leaves a void for an Aztec basketball player. Obviously, Kawhi is on course to fill that spot -- I'd just like him to complete his career down the road in 10 years and see if we still feel the same. Sometimes things happen over the course of time that can drastically sway the general feeling of a player, after all. Maybe instead we go with a Coach Fish statue and leave it at that.
As for the statues... Think in terms of Tony's statue at PetCo, or the bronze statues of Magic, Chick Hearn, Kareem outside of Staples Center. Something bigger than life and showing the players in action. I think it could be a real centerpiece that people would take pride in and enjoy taking photos with, etc.
Thoughts?
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 27, 2015 12:00:41 GMT -8
There's a lot of focus right now on what the right thing to do is for a stadium for SDSU. There's a bit of lower hanging fruit that I think most could agree on and would not significantly move the needle in terms of budget. I'd like to see "bronze" statues completed in the "Big Three Sports" for Tony Gwynn and Marshall Faulk and placed on the grass area near the steps that lead to the main entrance of Viejas Arena (Marshall's could be later moved to any on-campus stadium that is completed if the feeling is that is what needs to be done). Of course, this leaves a void for an Aztec basketball player. Obviously, Kawhi is on course to fill that spot -- I'd just like him to complete his career down the road in 10 years and see if we still feel the same. Sometimes things happen over the course of time that can drastically sway the general feeling of a player, after all. Maybe instead we go with a Coach Fish statue and leave it at that. As for the statues... Think in terms of Tony's statue at PetCo, or the bronze statues of Magic, Chick Hearn, Kareem outside of Staples Center. Something bigger than life and showing the players in action. I think it could be a real centerpiece that people would take pride in and enjoy taking photos with, etc. Thoughts? If anything -- this "low hanging fruit" should be for statues at the Q / West Campus and should start with Don Coryell & Tony Gwynn, then Marshall Faulk -- and their direct connections to that stadium site. |
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Post by sdsudevil on Apr 27, 2015 12:26:46 GMT -8
Gwynn, Faulk, Fisher. We should probably start fundraising now. Probably pretty expensive.
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Post by AzTex on Apr 27, 2015 12:30:41 GMT -8
Any discussion of statues should start with Coryell.
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Post by sdsudevil on Apr 27, 2015 12:44:29 GMT -8
Any discussion of statues should start with Coryell. What if said hypothetical stadium was the statue? BTW, I agree with Coryell over Faulk. That would be three coaches if Fisher was over Whi. |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 27, 2015 13:06:11 GMT -8
I'll leave it to the more seasoned generation to discuss merits of Coryell v. Faulk. I was too young for Coryell. But I like the fact you guys see where I'm going with this.
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Post by AzTex on Apr 27, 2015 14:07:26 GMT -8
Any discussion of statues should start with Coryell. What if said hypothetical stadium was the statue? BTW, I agree with Coryell over Faulk. That would be three coaches if Fisher was over Whi. I see the statues as something like a lifetime achievement award, only more. To get a statue someone would have to have had an indelible effect on SDSU lasting beyond their time here. Coryell is a lock. Without him we're still playing in an unchanged Aztec Bowl. We'd be FCS at best. Possibly not even the best football program in San Diego. There would be no Viejas. Therefore no Steve Fisher. Tony is also a lock. Besides being a great 2 sport star when he was a student here, he has been identified with San Diego and SDSU his entire pro career. He finished out his career, and life, as a coach. While Steve Fisher hasn't had the longevity that Coryell and Gwynn had as former Aztecs, I don't doubt that his impact on SDSU will be as long lasting as either of them. Put a lock on the Steve Fisher choice as well. I think Faulk is on the bubble. It can be argued that he is the best football player we've ever had. Although there are other viable candidates as well. What might push him into strong consideration would be his continued association with SDSU through his charitable work. I wouldn't argue against including him if we were going to add non-coaches to the mix. I think it's too soon to include Kawhi as a candidate for a statue. Based only on his playing time with SDSU he is certainly a very good college basketball player. But, I can name one of two hand fulls of former players that might be considered better college basketball players at SDSU. I'd wait until we see what kind of connection he maintains with the Aztecs and what impact that connection has on SDSU before adding him to any consideration of getting a statue. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 14:09:53 GMT -8
I appreciate all of their accomplishments and think it would be great to have statues for all of them. You need to find a way to finance them that doesn't impact the Athletic Budget though. There's just alot of facilities needed that would come before some statues. Maybe when The Show takes over the Aztec Club their creativity will bring about enough funds. Good idea though.
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Post by tonatiuh on Apr 28, 2015 11:19:34 GMT -8
I'll leave it to the more seasoned generation to discuss merits of Coryell v. Faulk. I was too young for Coryell. But I like the fact you guys see where I'm going with this. There should be little discussion since both were great, and helped San Diego State in many ways. But, just for interest and to let you know if Don had Marshall on his teams when he coached he would probably have three more undefeated teams. He coached three without him. ( '66, '68,& '69) |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 28, 2015 19:14:35 GMT -8
I guess maybe a good litmus test would be "Who would Joe Blow from Iowa want his photo taken with?" That takes the bias out of it. Coryell, Faulk, Gwynn, Fisher, maybe someday Leonard -- any of those sound like reasonable bets.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 20:19:32 GMT -8
If Joe was a BB guy he would pick Fisher, Baseball Gwynn, Old Football St. DON, Younger Marshall.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 22:16:04 GMT -8
Neither Gwynn or Faulk were playing at Kawhi's level after 4 years of play.
Already NBA Champ ,NBA Finals MVP and DPOY 2015.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 28, 2015 22:16:21 GMT -8
Give Michael Cage a statue and have MJ unveil it.
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Post by fowl on Apr 28, 2015 23:24:52 GMT -8
Neither Gwynn or Faulk were playing at Kawhi's level after 4 years of play. Already NBA Champ ,NBA Finals MVP and DPOY 2015. Of course because batting .351 your third year out after a .309 year in which you were injured and a shortened/injured rookie year of .289 - the only year you hit under .300, winning the batting title in your third year, being an all-star starter in your third year, pretty much single-handedly leading your team to a World Series in your third year, and winning a golden glove in your fourth year clearly makes you inferior to a very talented kid who is maybe the second or third best player on his team. I'm not trying to instigate a fight here because Kawhi deserves lots of praise and is a great Aztec but honestly he isn't a Gwynn or a Faulk - yet. Hopefully he becomes one. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 29, 2015 6:29:18 GMT -8
Neither Gwynn or Faulk were playing at Kawhi's level after 4 years of play. Already NBA Champ ,NBA Finals MVP and DPOY 2015. You're completely stoned. Gwynn won the NL batting title and played in a World Series his second year. Faulk was Rookie of the Year, Pro Bowl MVP, NFL rushing champ, etc. by year 4. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 29, 2015 6:33:01 GMT -8
If you're going to do statues, it's an easy decision: Coryell, Gwynn, Faulk, Fisher. Kawhi still has a lot of seasoning to do and NBA dragons to slay. But reserve a pedestal for him, for sure.
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Post by uncledougy on Apr 29, 2015 13:52:05 GMT -8
#28 is a no brainer...leaving him out would be a mistake of epic proportions. Hall-of-Famer, MVP, and Heisman runner up (still think he won it).
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Post by leastcoast on Apr 29, 2015 17:18:04 GMT -8
statues are gaudy and cliche.
make any tributes to aztec athletic history part of the architecture somehow.
get some creative people on this and you won't have to spend tons of money on these memorials.
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 29, 2015 20:51:34 GMT -8
statues are gaudy and cliche. make any tributes to aztec athletic history part of the architecture somehow. get some creative people on this and you won't have to spend tons of money on these memorials. Holograms at mid court before each game. |
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Post by bearfoot on Apr 30, 2015 0:22:00 GMT -8
Neither Gwynn or Faulk were playing at Kawhi's level after 4 years of play. Already NBA Champ ,NBA Finals MVP and DPOY 2015. You're completely stoned. Gwynn won the NL batting title and played in a World Series his second year. Faulk was Rookie of the Year, Pro Bowl MVP, NFL rushing champ, etc. by year 4. I just attributed the silly psot to lack on experience on Earth. Besides, K L spent only two seasons as an Aztec and neither of his teams were considered "his" teams. He was the best player on them, but they were more DJ's than KL's/ Me for coaches Coryell, Fisher and TG. |
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