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Post by hoobs on Apr 9, 2015 6:27:05 GMT -8
Assuming we win the USD game, which we will, it isn't even a blip in the road in the drive to 25. 9+ wins puts us in the MWC championship game against a ranked BSU. Win that game, and we are on our way. Go Aztecs! The game vs. USD also helps at least a little bit to be prepared to beat Cal the following weekend... which *would* be more than a blip on the radar...
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Post by gocoaztec on Apr 9, 2015 7:29:04 GMT -8
Yes.
It really doesn't matter which FCS team that we play, as long as we win that game.
If it turns out that we need the FCS win to be bowl eligible it will suck for our players, but I believe that Rocky would retire and our attention will be on finding our next head coach.
But, that's not going to happen -- we will win the West Division this year. The make or break game will be the MWCCG against BSU in Boise.
Go Aztecs!
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Post by fowl on Apr 9, 2015 7:44:49 GMT -8
If you want to be in the top 25 it goes without saying that you need to win games. This accomplishes that goal. Come mid-season if we have a good season and are undefeated no voter is going to hold us out of the top 25 because we played USD. Under that scenario we will have beaten Cal and Penn St and that will count for far more than a win against USD.
Case in point is Marshall last year. Take a look at that schedule and note that they were in the top 25.
Under the circumstances I think this was the right move.
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Post by AztecSports95 on Apr 9, 2015 7:58:03 GMT -8
Alabama played Western Carolina in week 10 last year.
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Post by retiredaztec on Apr 9, 2015 8:38:17 GMT -8
If you want to be in the top 25 it goes without saying that you need to win games. This accomplishes that goal. Come mid-season if we have a good season and are undefeated no voter is going to hold us out of the top 25 because we played USD. Under that scenario we will have beaten Cal and Penn St and that will count for far more than a win against USD. Case in point is Marshall last year. Take a look at that schedule and note that they were in the top 25. Under the circumstances I think this was the right move. True. But as a mid-level program, it would be a thin line of margin for error. Having played USD would make the line only thinner. But let's talk about this undefeated thing... And as previously noted, if State was in competition for a particular bowl, the USD thing could well come back to bite the program in the butt. This isn't Alabama. But again, let's talk about that undefeated thing....
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 9, 2015 9:57:45 GMT -8
Why isn't "AztecBruce" posting under his name as opposed to ab? But, anyways I think it showed some imaginative thinking to come up with a way to have a 12 game schedule as opposed to a disappointing 11 game schedule. Do I want to play USD in football every year, no. But as a one off its pretty cool. In regards to Sterk, has he done anything spectacular, not really. But he seems competent and certainly doing a better job then who ever Washington State replaced him with. The big splash football hire of Mike Leach instantly fixed football in Pullman, didn't it? Can SDSU be a top 25 program in football? Absolutely, if you think it will be easy you don't have a grasp of reality. SDSU has been a good football program only once. When Don Coryell, a truly once in a lifetime coach was here; Claude Gilbert kept it going for another 6-8 years but Gilbert certainly couldn't have started what Coryell did. SDSU athletics motto: We have Rocky and Sterk and both are competent!!!!!!! (Anticipated response from the apologists: "Maybe so but they're better than Chuck Long and Jeff Schemmel. Lol.)
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 9, 2015 10:12:43 GMT -8
I have a question for the "I hate this game, this program sucks we will never be a top 25 program" crowd. Let's say State plays USD and wins by 3 points, goes on next week into Cal and wins by 4 points, beats South Alabama by 1 point but comes back the next week to beat Penn St by a solid 10 points. To the people outside of San Diego and to the people that put together the rankings, would the fact that we beat USD... Scratch that...would the fact that we even played USD matter in the grand scheme of things??? Will playing USD stop us from becoming a ranked program if we're able to beat Cal and Penn St??? Just curious to know your answer. Before answering, I need to say this. IMO at least, the issue isn't whether we should play USD or play nobody. I played enough sports when I was younger to say that scrimmaging against teammates just doesn't get the juices flowing like playing another school, even if you know you're going to put a whupping on that other school. To answer your question, if the scenario you paint becomes reality, I'll be very pleased. However, again IMO, a much more possible scenario is that not only won't playing USD be followed by a win at Cal, part of the reason it won't is that one or two key players will get banged up. USD's players may not be big but they're going to have a chip on their shoulder and their adrenaline flowing to the maximum for the game so it concerns me a lot that they're going to cheap shot us. Maybe not intentionally but it's going to happen. Which is a reason I don't want to see any of our starters in after halftime.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 10:52:34 GMT -8
I have a question for the "I hate this game, this program sucks we will never be a top 25 program" crowd. Let's say State plays USD and wins by 3 points, goes on next week into Cal and wins by 4 points, beats South Alabama by 1 point but comes back the next week to beat Penn St by a solid 10 points. To the people outside of San Diego and to the people that put together the rankings, would the fact that we beat USD... Scratch that...would the fact that we even played USD matter in the grand scheme of things??? Will playing USD stop us from becoming a ranked program if we're able to beat Cal and Penn St??? Just curious to know your answer. Before answering, I need to say this. IMO at least, the issue isn't whether we should play USD or play nobody. I played enough sports when I was younger to say that scrimmaging against teammates just doesn't get the juices flowing like playing another school, even if you know you're going to put a whupping on that other school. To answer your question, if the scenario you paint becomes reality, I'll be very pleased. However, again IMO, a much more possible scenario is that not only won't playing USD be followed by a win at Cal, part of the reason it won't is that one or two key players will get banged up. USD's players may not be big but they're going to have a chip on their shoulder and their adrenaline flowing to the maximum for the game so it concerns me a lot that they're going to cheap shot us. Maybe not intentionally but it's going to happen. Which is a reason I don't want to see any of our starters in after halftime. Your last paragraph is non-sense unless you felt the same way about NAU, EIU, and Cal Poly games. Which effectively would mean we should never play an lower division(FCS) opponent.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 9, 2015 10:57:54 GMT -8
Before answering, I need to say this. IMO at least, the issue isn't whether we should play USD or play nobody. I played enough sports when I was younger to say that scrimmaging against teammates just doesn't get the juices flowing like playing another school, even if you know you're going to put a whupping on that other school. To answer your question, if the scenario you paint becomes reality, I'll be very pleased. However, again IMO, a much more possible scenario is that not only won't playing USD be followed by a win at Cal, part of the reason it won't is that one or two key players will get banged up. USD's players may not be big but they're going to have a chip on their shoulder and their adrenaline flowing to the maximum for the game so it concerns me a lot that they're going to cheap shot us. Maybe not intentionally but it's going to happen. Which is a reason I don't want to see any of our starters in after halftime. Your last paragraph is non-sense unless you felt the same way about NAU, EIU, and Cal Poly games. Which effectively would mean we should never play an lower division(FCS) opponent. or a lower FBS conference foe like from the Sunbelt or MAC ... I mean who does not have a chip on their shoulder opening game in someone else's stadium?
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 9, 2015 11:02:37 GMT -8
NAU, EIU and Cal Poly all count toward bowl eligibility.
Unless, of course, we can't actually beat such monsters of the midway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:06:26 GMT -8
NAU, EIU and Cal Poly all count toward bowl eligibility. Unless, of course, we can't actually beat such monsters of the midway. That wasn't the point, the point was your comments about additional injury risk, which is non-sense. There is more of an injury risk in spring and fall camp then there is a game against a non-schollie FCS like USD.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 9, 2015 11:16:59 GMT -8
Really? So are Pumphrey and whoever plays QB against USD going to be wearing yellow so they can't get tackled?
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Post by dtay2004 on Apr 9, 2015 11:27:43 GMT -8
I have a question for the "I hate this game, this program sucks we will never be a top 25 program" crowd. Let's say State plays USD and wins by 3 points, goes on next week into Cal and wins by 4 points, beats South Alabama by 1 point but comes back the next week to beat Penn St by a solid 10 points. To the people outside of San Diego and to the people that put together the rankings, would the fact that we beat USD... Scratch that...would the fact that we even played USD matter in the grand scheme of things??? Will playing USD stop us from becoming a ranked program if we're able to beat Cal and Penn St??? Just curious to know your answer. Before answering, I need to say this. IMO at least, the issue isn't whether we should play USD or play nobody. I played enough sports when I was younger to say that scrimmaging against teammates just doesn't get the juices flowing like playing another school, even if you know you're going to put a whupping on that other school. To answer your question, if the scenario you paint becomes reality, I'll be very pleased. However, again IMO, a much more possible scenario is that not only won't playing USD be followed by a win at Cal, part of the reason it won't is that one or two key players will get banged up. USD's players may not be big but they're going to have a chip on their shoulder and their adrenaline flowing to the maximum for the game so it concerns me a lot that they're going to cheap shot us. Maybe not intentionally but it's going to happen. Which is a reason I don't want to see any of our starters in after halftime. If you expect a couple of key players to get banged up after every game, SDSU is in for a long season so playing USD won't matter much. You can't worry about injuries, you can tear your ACL getting out of bed in the morning. I see this game more for the players then it is for the fans.Regardless who you play, it always feels good to beat somebody and put up impressive stats. The fact that you have a chance to beat an in-town "rival" is just the cherry on top. Fans will come
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:37:41 GMT -8
Really? So are Pumphrey and whoever plays QB against USD going to be wearing yellow so they can't get tackled? Have they done that for any other game against a live opponent ever? Being disappointed about the scheduled game is fine...it sucks, it does. But this game has no more risk of injury than any other game.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 9, 2015 11:39:46 GMT -8
Really? So are Pumphrey and whoever plays QB against USD going to be wearing yellow so they can't get tackled? Have they done that for any other game against a live opponent ever? Being disappointed about the scheduled game is fine...it sucks, it does. But this game has no more risk of injury than any other game. I'd say it has less risk because their players will be half our size
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 9, 2015 11:39:58 GMT -8
Really? So are Pumphrey and whoever plays QB against USD going to be wearing yellow so they can't get tackled? Have they done that for any other game against a live opponent ever? Being disappointed about the scheduled game is fine...it sucks, it does. But this game has no more risk of injury than any other game. I was referring to your contention there is more likelihood of injury in practice than in playing itty bitty San Diego U.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:46:06 GMT -8
Have they done that for any other game against a live opponent ever? Being disappointed about the scheduled game is fine...it sucks, it does. But this game has no more risk of injury than any other game. I was referring to your contention there is more likelihood of injury in practice than in playing itty bitty San Diego U. Yeah, thats because in practice contact rarely happens at true full speed which can lead to accidents. This is why there are always season ending injuries to a few players during camp.
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Post by gamer2101 on Jul 5, 2015 12:01:39 GMT -8
We should win a lot of games. That would help
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 5, 2015 13:56:17 GMT -8
Yes. It really doesn't matter which FCS team that we play, as long as we win that game. If it turns out that we need the FCS win to be bowl eligible it will suck for our players, but I believe that Rocky would retire and our attention will be on finding our next head coach. But, that's not going to happen -- we will win the West Division this year. The make or break game will be the MWCCG against BSU in Boise. Go Aztecs! Not if we keep losing players!
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Post by ab on Jul 5, 2015 14:31:21 GMT -8
Is Sterk suiting up? As what?
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