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Post by rs1899 on Mar 9, 2015 19:52:49 GMT -8
He will transfer from LMU.
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Post by fisherville on Mar 9, 2015 19:54:07 GMT -8
Not interested unless quite a few people leave, we will need to get grad transfers.
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Post by Gundo on Mar 9, 2015 21:11:48 GMT -8
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Post by Frantic on Mar 9, 2015 21:21:21 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 5:11:31 GMT -8
I would take him in a heart beat. Athletic, quick guard who can shoot/score/create for himself? Yes, please.
At the same time, it would likely take a currently unknown member of our team to transfer or leave early, because I assume the staff wants a JC or grad transfer. I prefer all of our current players due to return next year over this guy, but if there was room for him, seems like he might be a good fit.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Mar 10, 2015 6:29:59 GMT -8
www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/evan-payne-1.htmlPretty efficient player, especially since he was the number one option on a bad team. He averaged six fts per game and can shoot them. I don't know if he can play defense, but he can score. He would have been a nice player for us in Kell's role as a 20 minute combo guard. Because we lack scoring, I think he would be ahead of KZ and DW next year, not rhat he can play next year.
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Post by MarshallU on Mar 10, 2015 7:13:15 GMT -8
that is some serious HOPS! i just don't know if there is a spot for him unless someone transfers or leaves early for the draft.
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Post by standiego on Mar 10, 2015 8:01:16 GMT -8
First find out what guys are going to return from our current squad for next year . As of today if all come back with JH ( guard) and BJ ( PF/C ) that makes 12 guys , If WS or others leave then it opens up slots . there are going to be numerous transfers also after MM , NIT . But as mentioned add any regular transfers and you also take away from 2016 group.
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Post by aztecdan8 on Mar 18, 2015 12:27:44 GMT -8
Rounded stats- 30 min/gm, 18 pts/game, 44% FG, 35% 3pt, 80% FT. As a sophomore. Pretty impressive, especially on a bad team.
observations- explosive quickness and speed- Richie Williams quick, not tall at 6'/6'1", but unreal hops, dunks easily- very solid and strong at about 190-195 ibs.
I like the video of him, I like him a lot. I think he is better option right now by far at PG than what we have seen from KZ & DW. Is a superior athlete, so if he is interested and committed to playing Aztec D, he is very intriguing. If we had him this season, I think we score more and win 2-3 more games. Plus, we wouldn't have force fed Trey and played him our of position. Losing JJ and AQ, even more intriguing.
Problem is he is a sophomore and can't help us next season. If he was a grad transfer, I think he'd be of much more value. Not sure if he fits in 2 years now and if we can afford to carry him as a redshirt next season, as I think BJ won't be ready next season, so that would be 2 scholarship players unavailable.
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Post by ignoranus on Mar 19, 2015 5:33:47 GMT -8
Probably would have to follow in the tradition of Al Faux and AQ, because the Aztecs need immediate help next year.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Mar 19, 2015 7:34:27 GMT -8
My guess is that you'll only see them give a scholarship to a graduate transfer who can add depth to the team next year unless a PG transfers out. I think they like the guys in 2016 that they are in the hunt for and are happy with the addition of Hemsley at that position.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 19, 2015 7:46:36 GMT -8
Rounded stats- 30 min/gm, 18 pts/game, 44% FG, 35% 3pt, 80% FT. As a sophomore. Pretty impressive, especially on a bad team. observations- explosive quickness and speed- Richie Williams quick, not tall at 6'/6'1", but unreal hops, dunks easily- very solid and strong at about 190-195 ibs. I like the video of him, I like him a lot. I think he is better option right now by far at PG than what we have seen from KZ & DW. Is a superior athlete, so if he is interested and committed to playing Aztec D, he is very intriguing. If we had him this season, I think we score more and win 2-3 more games. Plus, we wouldn't have force fed Trey and played him our of position. Losing JJ and AQ, even more intriguing. Problem is he is a sophomore and can't help us next season. If he was a grad transfer, I think he'd be of much more value. Not sure if he fits in 2 years now and if we can afford to carry him as a redshirt next season, as I think BJ won't be ready next season, so that would be 2 scholarship players unavailable. The bolded above really tells us very little about the player. That is because he could shoot half his shots as 3 pointers making his 2 point FG% 53% or he could only shot 1 in 10 as a 3 pointer making his 2 point FG% 45%. 35.2% 3P FG% 48.0% 2P FG% 49.4% eFG% (puts them together so the ratios don't matter) 55.5% TS% (expresses shooting including FTs as a shooting percentage) For comparison55.7% TS% X Thames (last season) 55.6% TS% Malik Pope 54.2% TS% Aqueel Quinn 50.6% TS% JJ X Thames numbers include a lot of free throws via intentional fouls in close games the Aztecs won. Since LMU didn't win many, we can assume that is not the case with this player.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 19, 2015 8:25:07 GMT -8
My guess is that you'll only see them give a scholarship to a graduate transfer who can add depth to the team next year unless a PG transfers out. I think they like the guys in 2016 that they are in the hunt for and are happy with the addition of Hemsley at that position. And Keith Smith who will be eligible at the same time this transfer would be. Verbal Commits average ratingsJeremy Hemsley 4 star in all 3 rating services #59 overall and #19 SG Keith Smith 4 star in all 3 rating services #49 overall and #14 SG Try Kell was the only SG in the top 100 in recent memory. He was #92 overall We will likely have 3 top 100 SGs by the time that transfer would be eligible.
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Post by mySTRAS on Mar 19, 2015 10:39:41 GMT -8
Rounded stats- 30 min/gm, 18 pts/game, 44% FG, 35% 3pt, 80% FT. As a sophomore. Pretty impressive, especially on a bad team. observations- explosive quickness and speed- Richie Williams quick, not tall at 6'/6'1", but unreal hops, dunks easily- very solid and strong at about 190-195 ibs. I like the video of him, I like him a lot. I think he is better option right now by far at PG than what we have seen from KZ & DW. Is a superior athlete, so if he is interested and committed to playing Aztec D, he is very intriguing. If we had him this season, I think we score more and win 2-3 more games. Plus, we wouldn't have force fed Trey and played him our of position. Losing JJ and AQ, even more intriguing. Problem is he is a sophomore and can't help us next season. If he was a grad transfer, I think he'd be of much more value. Not sure if he fits in 2 years now and if we can afford to carry him as a redshirt next season, as I think BJ won't be ready next season, so that would be 2 scholarship players unavailable. The bolded above really tells us very little about the player. That is because he could shoot half his shots as 3 pointers making his 2 point FG% 53% or he could only shot 1 in 10 as a 3 pointer making his 2 point FG% 45%. 35.2% 3P FG% 48.0% 2P FG% 49.4% eFG% (puts them together so the ratios don't matter) 55.5% TS% (expresses shooting including FTs as a shooting percentage) For comparison55.7% TS% X Thames (last season) 55.6% TS% Malik Pope 54.2% TS% Aqueel Quinn 50.6% TS% JJ X Thames numbers include a lot of free throws via intentional fouls in close games the Aztecs won. Since LMU didn't win many, we can assume that is not the case with this player. Other things to consider: What is the average distance of a 2 point FG attempt (is it 5 feet, is it 18 feet). Was the shooter wide-open or did he have the other team's best defender draped all over him. Too many variables come into play to judge anything based purely on the numbers.
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Post by standiego on Mar 19, 2015 11:02:40 GMT -8
Bottom line lets first see what MP , WS , DA , DW and KZ are going to do , then evaluate what/ who we are going to need for 2015-16 season .
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 19, 2015 12:17:28 GMT -8
The bolded above really tells us very little about the player. That is because he could shoot half his shots as 3 pointers making his 2 point FG% 53% or he could only shot 1 in 10 as a 3 pointer making his 2 point FG% 45%. 35.2% 3P FG% 48.0% 2P FG% 49.4% eFG% (puts them together so the ratios don't matter) 55.5% TS% (expresses shooting including FTs as a shooting percentage) For comparison55.7% TS% X Thames (last season) 55.6% TS% Malik Pope 54.2% TS% Aqueel Quinn 50.6% TS% JJ X Thames numbers include a lot of free throws via intentional fouls in close games the Aztecs won. Since LMU didn't win many, we can assume that is not the case with this player. Other things to consider: What is the average distance of a 2 point FG attempt (is it 5 feet, is it 18 feet). Was the shooter wide-open or did he have the other team's best defender draped all over him. Too many variables come into play to judge anything based purely on the numbers. What difference does that make since he earned those positions upon the floor to make the shots. Since he was the only scorer he would not only be going against the best defender and also have little help from teammates.
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Post by mySTRAS on Mar 19, 2015 14:47:32 GMT -8
Other things to consider: What is the average distance of a 2 point FG attempt (is it 5 feet, is it 18 feet). Was the shooter wide-open or did he have the other team's best defender draped all over him. Too many variables come into play to judge anything based purely on the numbers. What difference does that make since he earned those positions upon the floor to make the shots. Since he was the only scorer he would not only be going against the best defender and also have little help from teammates. Really? What if someone plays with a couple of All-American marksmen? And is constantly left wide open? Is that really 'earning' those shooting positions on the floor? When you are guarded by the 4th or 5th best defender... you don't think that makes a difference in FG%? What about a player that misses a shot, gets his own rebound, misses again, gets his own rebound and then makes a bucket? 1/3 = 33% FG% but he still scored 2 points. Same as somebody who made their first attempt. Only stat that matters is the final score.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 19, 2015 15:23:22 GMT -8
What difference does that make since he earned those positions upon the floor to make the shots. Since he was the only scorer he would not only be going against the best defender and also have little help from teammates. Really? What if someone plays with a couple of All-American marksmen? And is constantly left wide open? Is that really 'earning' those shooting positions on the floor? When you are guarded by the 4th or 5th best defender... you don't think that makes a difference in FG%? What about a player that misses a shot, gets his own rebound, misses again, gets his own rebound and then makes a bucket? 1/3 = 33% FG% but he still scored 2 points. Same as somebody who made their first attempt. Only stat that matters is the final score. What if? We know who we are talking about. Are you saying he is that man? What about? If he did that enough to make a difference, his offensive rebounding stats would be great - they aren't.
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Post by tuff on Mar 19, 2015 15:28:24 GMT -8
Well, the guy can shoot. And we don't have any other than their press clippings. So yeah, go after him and drop some dead weight.
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Post by mySTRAS on Mar 19, 2015 15:45:16 GMT -8
Really? What if someone plays with a couple of All-American marksmen? And is constantly left wide open? Is that really 'earning' those shooting positions on the floor? When you are guarded by the 4th or 5th best defender... you don't think that makes a difference in FG%? What about a player that misses a shot, gets his own rebound, misses again, gets his own rebound and then makes a bucket? 1/3 = 33% FG% but he still scored 2 points. Same as somebody who made their first attempt. Only stat that matters is the final score. What if? We know who we are talking about. Are you saying he is that man? What about? If he did that enough to make a difference, his offensive rebounding stats would be great - they aren't. It's asininely stupid to compare FG %s of multiple shooters unless they are all being guarded by the same defender, under the same game situations. What about the poor sucker who constantly has to heave the last-second 3/4 court buzzer-beater? His fg% is going to be lower... even though he is never expected to make one of those shots. There is only one single best defender on any given team. Who that man guards... is gonna have a more difficult time making buckets compared to the guy being guarded by the worst defender on the court. Stats, in a vacuum, are WORTHLESS.
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