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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 10:50:15 GMT -8
My choice for offensive coordinator is. Doug Nussmeier former Michigan OF. His style is classic Pro-Style with innovative passing attack. He would fit right-in. He was former OC at Alabama. If he does well in the next two years he would be in_line for a Head Coach position. You mean because Michigan's offense was so much better with him as OC than Al Borges? Lol. Rocky would like to see SDSU use both a spread and pro style. However, once he hires an OC, it will be completely up to that guy to make the decision. If SteveEM is correct that Jeff Horton has no interest in being an OC again - and it wouldn't surprise me if Steve hasn't heard from somebody who would know that's the case - then I'd like to see Rocky bring back Al Borges. Big Al's been criticized by some for not recruiting good QBs for Ludwig and Toledo to use but as I've said, Al had all of 1.5 recruiting cycles to do that so I think such criticism is a bit unfair. I also think Al got thrown under the bus by Tuberville at Auburn and Hoke at Michigan and so would come here with fire in his ample belly to prove his worth. I have no particular objection to most of the young guys whose names have been mentioned. However, would an old guy like Rocky hire a young up-and-comer whom he might feel was looking over his shoulder to replace him as HC? I highly doubt it. I do not think that is a priority at all with him he has had quite a few offers NFL position coaches(which pay more money for less work) etc. He would do it if Rocky wanted him to but I think it would have be a done deal as soon as Toledo let Rocky know he was leaving. If Rocky is scouting around as he ha said then Jeff turned it down. Unless this is just a CSU thing were they give a chance to everyone to apply. Rocky will hire someone within the RockySphere look to Texas. This is the pay scale for SDSU Coaches .N San Diego State Mt. West Bob Toledo $205,008 $3,000 $208,008 $60,453
San Diego State Mt. West Jeff Horton $200,004 $3,000 $203,004 $59,001 Not really an upgrade for Jeff Horton only 6k more
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Post by sdcoug on Dec 17, 2014 10:54:32 GMT -8
Just throwing possibilities out there, but John Garrett could be a good fit. Ran a pro style offense at Oregon St with Mannion at QB (who wouldn't?), but has worked in several other schemes as well both at the collegiate & pro levels. Wasn't retained by Anderson when he took over at OSU. I have a feeling Ludwig ends up jumping ship post-bowl at Wisky & ends up at OSU, and think Riley goes big for a OC at Nebraska (still think it's Frost once he doesn't get a HC gig).
Back to Garrett, he was only at OSU for 1 year & they struggled a bit, but they'd lost Brandon Cooks from last year, and they were hit hard by injuries all year. They underperformed, but there was good reason. So he probably wouldn't be at the top of too many P5 school's lists right now, but think he could be solid at SDSU. Good recruiter as well - may even get the QB from Florida (Pensyl) to flip with him (although getting a kid to go from a P5 to a B5 is tough).
Just a possibility...
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Post by cvtower on Dec 17, 2014 12:15:35 GMT -8
There's been more than a few comments about looking from within and promoting Jeff Horton to offensive coordinator. I'm curious about wide receivers coach LeCharls McDaniel. Does he have the desire to go up in position or stay as wide receivers coach? Qualifications-wise, he's coached notable names such as J.R. Tolver, Brett Swain, Chaz Schilens, DeMarco Sampson, Kassim Osgood, and Vincent Brown. Would he make a good OC based on his overall resume?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 12:44:20 GMT -8
McDaniel deserves plaudits for his long time quality service to SDSU. However, in the interests of objectivity, his area of responsibility hasn't exactly impressed in the last three years.
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Post by Old School on Dec 17, 2014 13:27:07 GMT -8
Some say Marshall Faulk was the smartest guy on the field. Smart enough to be our OC?
Oldie Out
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Post by aztecbrothers on Dec 17, 2014 13:27:23 GMT -8
As I posted on another thread, Mike Norvell would be an excellent hire for OC and Assistant Head Coach in waiting. This would be the perfect fit for what we need. If we want to go to the next level, we need a guy like this to take us there. Someone with West Coast ties and no big name retread please. Sure it is going to cost more money. That is the name of the game now. We either grow the program or end it.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 17, 2014 13:27:23 GMT -8
There's been more than a few comments about looking from within and promoting Jeff Horton to offensive coordinator. I'm curious about wide receivers coach LeCharls McDaniel. Does he have the desire to go up in position or stay as wide receivers coach? Qualifications-wise, he's coached notable names such as J.R. Tolver, Brett Swain, Chaz Schilens, DeMarco Sampson, Kassim Osgood, and Vincent Brown. Would he make a good OC based on his overall resume? He is retiring soon. Only has a year or two left.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 17, 2014 13:29:34 GMT -8
As I posted on another thread, Mike Norvell would be an excellent hire for OC and Assistant Head Coach in waiting. This would be the perfect fit for what we need. If we want to go to the next level, we need a guy like this to take us there. Someone with West Coast ties and no big name retread please. Sure it is going to cost more money. That is the name of the game now. We either grow the program or end it. This is just like the Scott Frost mention. Why on earth would this guy come here for the same position he already has? He is the OC and Assistant Head Coach already at ASU. Why would be leave the P5 for the same exact job and less money? The only way a guy like that is coming to the MW is for a head coaching job.
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Post by matteosandiego on Dec 17, 2014 13:43:26 GMT -8
i do not believe this Greg Stevens is the same OC at Eastern Ill. that had demolished us last season. Dino Babers had already moved on to Bowling Green this season. I'm assuming he took his staff that was intact last season with him.
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Post by sdcoug on Dec 17, 2014 13:45:28 GMT -8
As I posted on another thread, Mike Norvell would be an excellent hire for OC and Assistant Head Coach in waiting. This would be the perfect fit for what we need. If we want to go to the next level, we need a guy like this to take us there. Someone with West Coast ties and no big name retread please. Sure it is going to cost more money. That is the name of the game now. We either grow the program or end it. This is just like the Scott Frost mention. Why on earth would this guy come here for the same position he already has? He is the OC and Assistant Head Coach already at ASU. Why would be leave the P5 for the same exact job and less money? The only way a guy like that is coming to the MW is for a head coaching job. +1. There's NO CHANCE a Frost or Norvell come here or anywhere else in the MWC as a OC/AHC. For 1, we couldn't afford them, and 2 - both are interviewing for HC gigs. Last I saw Norvell was the leading candidate at some place in the Midwest - can't recall where though, and if Frost doesn't get a HC gig he'll end up at Oregon or Nebraska making over the top money.
MW OC's or DC's are the "up & comers" or those with experience who aren't up to the P5 pressures right now.
I'm also amused by those who believe money grows on trees at non P5 schools...most P5 schools even have their boundaries.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 17, 2014 13:54:55 GMT -8
i do not believe this Greg Stevens is the same OC at Eastern Ill. that had demolished us last season. Dino Babers had already moved on to Bowling Green this season. I'm assuming he took his staff that was intact last season with him. Sterlin Gilbert was the OC in 2013. He is now the OC at BG with Dino Babers.
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Post by tonatiuh on Dec 17, 2014 15:57:58 GMT -8
Instead of thinking retreads, or old school why not go for Scott Frost (Ore. OC), or Doug Meacham, Sonny Cumbie OC's from TCU. They seem to know how to put up points! Why on earth would a Pac 12 championship team OC come down to the MW to take the same job? Lol, it would even be a far fetch if it was for the HC position, but to even think that he would come down to this conference as a OC says that you are very confused about college football. So why not? It may be as you say, but you can always ask. Also because we do need help, and you never know for sure what they might consider. Didn't some great coach at Michigan finally decide to come here to help our Basketball team? Gee, how did that happen? ?
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Post by pdraztec on Dec 17, 2014 16:01:54 GMT -8
He was an assistant Coach in the NBA prior to coming to SDSU.
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Post by Azthetic on Dec 17, 2014 16:50:44 GMT -8
Let's just say that I do not think Sipes has done a good job in identifying, recruiting and coaching QB's. That being said, if we truly are going to a spread or zone read offense, then you have to closely look at Sipes, his background and honestly his failure here. Change the offense and the coaches. Fischer, Falk, or Hokes
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Post by tonatiuh on Dec 17, 2014 17:52:50 GMT -8
He was an assistant Coach in the NBA prior to coming to SDSU. So, and just where was he before that???
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Post by aztecbrothers on Dec 17, 2014 18:45:24 GMT -8
As I posted on another thread, Mike Norvell would be an excellent hire for OC and Assistant Head Coach in waiting. This would be the perfect fit for what we need. If we want to go to the next level, we need a guy like this to take us there. Someone with West Coast ties and no big name retread please. Sure it is going to cost more money. That is the name of the game now. We either grow the program or end it. This is just like the Scott Frost mention. Why on earth would this guy come here for the same position he already has? He is the OC and Assistant Head Coach already at ASU. Why would be leave the P5 for the same exact job and less money? The only way a guy like that is coming to the MW is for a head coaching job. From the ASU website, it looks like he is the Assistant to the Assistant Head Coach. It looked like he was third in line, why can't we offer him more money if we want to be big time?
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 17, 2014 19:00:01 GMT -8
Won't happen, but he would fix things.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Dec 17, 2014 19:37:38 GMT -8
Let's just say that I do not think Sipes has done a good job in identifying, recruiting and coaching QB's. That being said, if we truly are going to a spread or zone read offense, then you have to closely look at Sipes, his background and honestly his failure here. Change the offense and the coaches. Fischer, Falk, or Hokes 0-3 on names. Tell us you're drunk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 20:11:12 GMT -8
Dennis Erickson how is that for a wild idea.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 17, 2014 20:33:41 GMT -8
Why on earth would a Pac 12 championship team OC come down to the MW to take the same job? Lol, it would even be a far fetch if it was for the HC position, but to even think that he would come down to this conference as a OC says that you are very confused about college football. So why not? It may be as you say, but you can always ask. Also because we do need help, and you never know for sure what they might consider. Didn't some great coach at Michigan finally decide to come here to help our Basketball team? Gee, how did that happen? ? How did that happen? Gee the guy was unemployed. He was fired by Michigan and then was offered our job. Norvell is still on the ASU staff. Do you honestly not see the difference between that situation and Fishers situation? Norvell is not taking a step down fort the same job and lesser pay. Does it hurt to reach out to him? Of course not. Wouldn't cost anyone a dime to do so. So, why not? But just saying, unless it is for a HC job, Norvell and anyone in his situation is not leaving for P5 for the G5 for the same exact job.
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