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Post by bearfoot on Aug 30, 2014 22:51:20 GMT -8
Love all the novel thoughts in this thread. And, so much of it new thoughts. Our Aztecs play our home games at the Q. Unless someone in this place wants to drop a pile of dough, lets just play there and encourage as many as we can to come and watch.
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Post by bearfoot on Aug 30, 2014 22:52:50 GMT -8
It felt like tonight's crowd could fit into Viejas...The real problem isn't the stadium...if that thing is full, the place is rocking. It's 1) Our lackluster schedule 2) crappy conference 3) Coach that doesn't WOW anybody... Where would you put the 16K to 18K that wouldn't fit in Viejas? Asking for a friend.
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Post by Top of the Pyramid on Aug 30, 2014 23:01:07 GMT -8
The main problem is it's too big. We had 50k watching Faulk. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards And along came HD television and the death of the multipurpose stadium...
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2014 23:37:38 GMT -8
It's a craphole. Time to hire a demolition squad. I go in there now and half expect a chunk of concrete to dislodge and brain somebody. Lord knows what's crawling around in the food prep areas. I don't think there is anything crawling around the food prep areas--those critters don't want to be there either.
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Post by Top of the Pyramid on Aug 30, 2014 23:56:13 GMT -8
Love all the novel thoughts in this thread. And, so much of it new thoughts. Our Aztecs play our home games at the Q. Unless someone in this place wants to drop a pile of dough, lets just play there and encourage as many as we can to come and watch. A pile of dough? It takes commitment and involvement from all of us. We can't wait for someone to save us, we must dig in deep and forge our own path! The JAM center is getting built right now based on the donations of 300 people. That's right right 300 people. Our current student body is 30,000. Our alumni base is closer to 240,000. Only 300 people donated? Pathetic. I'm a grad student trying to juggle work, school, and my family. I still donated. I found a way to help the school that has done so much for me. I'm in this for the long haul. I'm going down with this ship. If we can't get this done, the last thing you will see from me is my middle finger falling below the tide. It will be directed at everyone that did nothing. It is time for me to retire for the evening, but I will leave you all with this: “It became a community thing, a community asset,” said Morris, who recently donated an additional $250,000 with his wife, Susan, a Stanford alum. “You go to these games and there are 12,414 people in there and they’re all hollering. Those are members of the community, and as a result people become very emotional and attached to the university.
“At Cal, I wouldn’t give something like this. It’s a different culture. The greatest asset they have here are the people ... You don’t have to go here to want to support what these guys are doing. If I had to do it over again, I’d love to go here.”www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/27/sdsu-basketball-practice-facility-groundbreaking/
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Post by bearfoot on Aug 31, 2014 2:09:29 GMT -8
And, so much of it new thoughts. Our Aztecs play our home games at the Q. Unless someone in this place wants to drop a pile of dough, lets just play there and encourage as many as we can to come and watch. A pile of dough? It takes commitment and involvement from all of us. We can't wait for someone to save us, we must dig in deep and forge our own path! The JAM center is getting built right now based on the donations of 300 people. That's right right 300 people. Our current student body is 30,000. Our alumni base is closer to 240,000. Only 300 people donated? Pathetic. I'm a grad student trying to juggle work, school, and my family. I still donated. I found a way to help the school that has done so much for me. I'm in this for the long haul. I'm going down with this ship. If we can't get this done, the last thing you will see from me is my middle finger falling below the tide. It will be directed at everyone that did nothing. It is time for me to retire for the evening, but I will leave you all with this: “It became a community thing, a community asset,” said Morris, who recently donated an additional $250,000 with his wife, Susan, a Stanford alum. “You go to these games and there are 12,414 people in there and they’re all hollering. Those are members of the community, and as a result people become very emotional and attached to the university.
“At Cal, I wouldn’t give something like this. It’s a different culture. The greatest asset they have here are the people ... You don’t have to go here to want to support what these guys are doing. If I had to do it over again, I’d love to go here.”www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/27/sdsu-basketball-practice-facility-groundbreaking/I love the passion. Consider, each of those 240K pitches in 1,000, and we still can't build a place for 240 million. What then? We are tied to the Chargers. If they get a place, we will play there. If they leave, we will have to figure out whether we keep playing D-1 football, or not. If we try to keep it up, then, and only then, will we have to build our own place. Right now, which is all we know, we must wait, and pray that somehow we get an invite to a Big 5 league. That would change everything.
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Post by Top of the Pyramid on Aug 31, 2014 2:47:38 GMT -8
I love the passion. Consider, each of those 240K pitches in 1,000, and we still can't build a place for 240 million. What then? We are tied to the Chargers. If they get a place, we will play there. If they leave, we will have to figure out whether we keep playing D-1 football, or not. If we try to keep it up, then, and only then, will we have to build our own place. Right now, which is all we know, we must wait, and pray that somehow we get an invite to a Big 5 league. That would change everything. Spot on bearfoot, We must wait. I have to contest the being tied to the Chargers part though. Our interests are different. The word of the day is contingencies. SDSU has them. When the bumbling powder-blue milk-maid takes her clumsy fingers off the teet of the city, then we make our move. My post in general was directed at those with the defeatist attitude, but your point is well taken. Respect; my friend.
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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 31, 2014 5:50:25 GMT -8
I do NOT appreciate that, and for a very good reason. For many years I had three season View Level seats right about the 42 yard line. That spot was great, and I could easily afford three seats. Then they exiled us downstairs. Then a few years later we were able to move upstairs. Then downstairs again, and for three years (I think) we had great seats on the 40 something yard line at the same price. Then we were no longer able to get the same seats at the old price. Frankly, with the necessity of getting season basketball season tickets as well, I just couldn't afford the higher price. This is about the third year we have been in the end zone, section 21. It's better than being forced to stay at home, but it kind of sucks. Oh, yes, you are wrong on another issue, as well. Thirty to thirty-five thousand seats would definitely NOT be enough. 40K absolute minimum, better about 45K with possible expansion built in to the plan from the start. AzWm Yeah, 40k for the 25k that show up. Good plan. You would have made Cox/Viejas about 2-3k then....cause,you know, that's all that showed up when it was designed.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 31, 2014 6:48:48 GMT -8
A new 42k stadium with seating closer to the field would make a HUGE improvement to the atmosphere of the games. Right now there's a bit of a disconnect between the fans and the team, due in part to the huge distance between the field and most of the seats. Put the fans almost on top of the field in a smaller stadium and the atmosphere totally changes. It would be a lot more like what Cox/Viejas Arena has become for basketball.
As it stands now, the atmosphere for Aztec football games is pretty weak most of the time. It's just a cavernous stadium where the fans feel like they're watching the game from the next county...
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 31, 2014 7:01:19 GMT -8
There is nothing that can be done, so bitching won't change anything. The Q is our home field. Win at North Carolina and Oregon St. and there will 50k at the Q for the UNLV game. I would bet that is about right. Still, I think we need to redevelop the "Q" site with a 45K to 50K stadium designed to be further expanded. Let SDSU use that location and let the Chargers go downtown. In the meantime, a few more wins and we will get more folks to come out.
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Post by brady on Aug 31, 2014 8:05:58 GMT -8
There is nothing that can be done, so bitching won't change anything. The Q is our home field. Win at North Carolina and Oregon St. and there will 50k at the Q for the UNLV game. 50k for UNLV? Not unless we move up the 70's butt-rock/fireworks show.
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Post by brady on Aug 31, 2014 8:10:29 GMT -8
Field level midway through the 3rd quarter yesterday or a scene from The Shining?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 9:34:33 GMT -8
A pile of dough? It takes commitment and involvement from all of us. We can't wait for someone to save us, we must dig in deep and forge our own path! The JAM center is getting built right now based on the donations of 300 people. That's right right 300 people. Our current student body is 30,000. Our alumni base is closer to 240,000. Only 300 people donated? Pathetic. I'm a grad student trying to juggle work, school, and my family. I still donated. I found a way to help the school that has done so much for me. I'm in this for the long haul. I'm going down with this ship. If we can't get this done, the last thing you will see from me is my middle finger falling below the tide. It will be directed at everyone that did nothing. It is time for me to retire for the evening, but I will leave you all with this: “It became a community thing, a community asset,” said Morris, who recently donated an additional $250,000 with his wife, Susan, a Stanford alum. “You go to these games and there are 12,414 people in there and they’re all hollering. Those are members of the community, and as a result people become very emotional and attached to the university.
“At Cal, I wouldn’t give something like this. It’s a different culture. The greatest asset they have here are the people ... You don’t have to go here to want to support what these guys are doing. If I had to do it over again, I’d love to go here.”www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/27/sdsu-basketball-practice-facility-groundbreaking/I love the passion. Consider, each of those 240K pitches in 1,000, and we still can't build a place for 240 million. What then? We are tied to the Chargers. If they get a place, we will play there. If they leave, we will have to figure out whether we keep playing D-1 football, or not. If we try to keep it up, then, and only then, will we have to build our own place. Right now, which is all we know, we must wait, and pray that somehow we get an invite to a Big 5 league. That would change everything. I'm praying for 2 things; that we get a P5 invite and the Pyramid's degree isn't in finance.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 31, 2014 10:09:44 GMT -8
There is nothing that can be done, so bitching won't change anything. The Q is our home field. Win at North Carolina and Oregon St. and there will 50k at the Q for the UNLV game. That's like saying back in the sports arena days "just beat Kentucky and Michigan and we'll have 15,000 for UTEP". You're not acknowledging the root of the problem. The root of the problem is apathetic fan support. There is nothing we can do about the stadium except fill the damn thing. Complaining and crying about the Q gets the program nowhere, besides it would take 15-25 years of red tape to build an on campus facility and who knows if there will be any college football by then.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Aug 31, 2014 10:20:09 GMT -8
So, I'm standing up behind loge 19 at halftime and I notice someone come out of the Stadium Club bar door with a beer and smile. Mind you that club has been closed for years now,like so many of the concession stands. He says there is no one in there but the beer taps are working and there are cups on the bar too. I walk in and exactly right, no one in there. I stand there for a minute and another guy walks in and say's "free beer I hear" . He walks behind the bar, draws one and walks out. When I went outside on the concourse, the word is getting around and more fans are walking in and "liberating" free beer. About 15 minutes later the cops show up and that was the end of that. Pretty typical that stadium people would leave the door unlocked and there is no one in there working.
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Post by HighNTight on Aug 31, 2014 10:26:01 GMT -8
College Football 2011: The 25 Worst College Football Stadium Experiences (By David Luther , Featured Columnist) No. 20: San Diego State - bleacherreport.com/articles/655869-college-football-2011-the-25-worst-college-football-stadium-experiences/page/7SDSU comes in at No. 20, and is the first on the list that plays in an expansive NFL stadium while drawing an average crowd that doesn't even fill the place half full. Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, home of the NFL's Chargers, seats 70,561. San Diego State draws an average crowd of 34,133. Even if every single fan in attendance stood up and screamed at the top of their lungs, the stadium would still sound half empty. Qualcomm is a great venue for the NFL. If San Diego State drew 70,000 fans for home games, it would probably make a nice venue for the Aztecs. But the seats in NFL stadiums are typically a bit further from the field than they are in collegiate stadiums. Add that to the fact that the place is only half full, and you have a recipe for an atmosphere that lacks that certain college feel. No. 17: Southern California - bleacherreport.com/articles/655869-college-football-2011-the-25-worst-college-football-stadium-experiences/page/10No, it's not a joke. USC really is making this list, and comes in at No. 18. Why? USC plays at the LA Memorial Colliseum. That stadium holds 93,607 fans. In 2010, USC averaged fewer than 80,000 fans. Sure, 2010 was a bad year for the Trojans, but 2010 was a bad year for Michigan, and they averaged over 111,000. In fact, Michigan averaged well in excess of 100,000 over the past three terrible years in Ann Arbor. So what is it, Trojan nation? A major football program in the nation's second largest city, which incidentally does not have a professional football team, should be able to find enough fans to fill the stadium. USC can't. No. 16: UCLA - bleacherreport.com/articles/655869-college-football-2011-the-25-worst-college-football-stadium-experiences/page/11Since USC had their chops busted, it's only fair that UCLA gets a little smack, especially since their attendance is worse off than USC's. The Rose Bowl is one of those venues that can be defined simply as a "Temple of College Football." UCLA, like USC, is in the nation's second-largest city. LA has no professional football team. So why does UCLA draw so poorly? One can make the point that they draw worse than USC because they haven't been as successful. That's a valid point. But both of those teams should have no problem filling their respective venues. Because the Bruins draw fewer fans than USC in a stadium of comparable size in the same city, they make the list one spot ahead of the Trojans. So what has changed for these Stadiums since 2011?Ask Fresno St about their recent trip to the Colosseum and what a terrible venue it is, yet they draw 80K ... Look what winning has done for UCLA since 2011 -- it's the same Rose Bowl with the same capacity and the same distance from campus as it's always been, but they are once again filling the stadium because they are winning and they are ranked. SDSU can do the same, by winning and getting ranked. All 3 schools would love to be able to renovate their stadiums, but there are major barriers for all three to do so. Until they can afford to do anything about it, all three teams must make the most out of their venues.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 31, 2014 10:35:01 GMT -8
I do NOT appreciate that, and for a very good reason. For many years I had three season View Level seats right about the 42 yard line. That spot was great, and I could easily afford three seats. Then they exiled us downstairs. Then a few years later we were able to move upstairs. Then downstairs again, and for three years (I think) we had great seats on the 40 something yard line at the same price. Then we were no longer able to get the same seats at the old price. Frankly, with the necessity of getting season basketball season tickets as well, I just couldn't afford the higher price. This is about the third year we have been in the end zone, section 21. It's better than being forced to stay at home, but it kind of sucks. Oh, yes, you are wrong on another issue, as well. Thirty to thirty-five thousand seats would definitely NOT be enough. 40K absolute minimum, better about 45K with possible expansion built in to the plan from the start. AzWm Yeah, 40k for the 25k that show up. Good plan. Would you really want to assume that for all time the Aztecs will never draw more than 25K to games? That would be throwing in the towel for sure. We would not want to build a stadium seating 85,000, since we never have, even in the good old days, drawn close to that number. It would be equally foolish to build a stadium that would not be big enough to accommodate decent sized crowds. Somewhere between 40K and 45K would seem to be the sweet spot. Anything smaller would be foolish. Much bigger than that (e.g., 55K, 60K, 65K, etc.) would be unwise. I do think that any plans for a new stadium should be designed so that an extra 5K to 10K seats could be added easily. AzWm PS: A random thought. Do you think that anyone from the Chargers reads AztecMesa? if they do, they must by now have figured out that the fanbase is mostly opposed to sharing a too-large stadium that would be too far from campus. . . i.e., downtown.
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Post by aztech on Aug 31, 2014 10:51:15 GMT -8
So, I'm standing up behind loge 19 at halftime and I notice someone come out of the Stadium Club bar door with a beer and smile. Mind you that club has been closed for years now,like so many of the concession stands. He says there is no one in there but the beer taps are working and there are cups on the bar too. I walk in and exactly right, no one in there. I stand there for a minute and another guy walks in and say's "free beer I hear" . He walks behind the bar, draws one and walks out. When I went outside on the concourse, the word is getting around and more fans are walking in and "liberating" free beer. About 15 minutes later the cops show up and that was the end of that. Pretty typical that stadium people would leave the door unlocked and there is no one in there working. That is what you get when a city runs the stadium. There's probably a bit of corruption on who wins the service contracts. Yeah, I know low income people need jobs, but...... Unfortunately SDSU is in a powerless position. It would be ideal to have students behind the counters instead. They'd love to have some extra money without committing to a long term job. Overall they'd be more responsible and would take on a more collegiate atmosphere. Campus signups for these jobs would help provide awareness of the program. It could encourage their friends and their friends' friends to go to the games as well.
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Aug 31, 2014 12:45:07 GMT -8
The sorry ass support system and the lack of any significant accomplishments is the real weight around the program's neck. But I guess it's easier to blame the venue.
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Post by laaztec on Aug 31, 2014 13:08:03 GMT -8
College Football 2011: The 25 Worst College Football Stadium Experiences (By David Luther , Featured Columnist) No. 20: San Diego State - bleacherreport.com/articles/655869-college-football-2011-the-25-worst-college-football-stadium-experiences/page/7SDSU comes in at No. 20, and is the first on the list that plays in an expansive NFL stadium while drawing an average crowd that doesn't even fill the place half full. Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, home of the NFL's Chargers, seats 70,561. San Diego State draws an average crowd of 34,133. Even if every single fan in attendance stood up and screamed at the top of their lungs, the stadium would still sound half empty. Qualcomm is a great venue for the NFL. If San Diego State drew 70,000 fans for home games, it would probably make a nice venue for the Aztecs. But the seats in NFL stadiums are typically a bit further from the field than they are in collegiate stadiums. Add that to the fact that the place is only half full, and you have a recipe for an atmosphere that lacks that certain college feel. Bleacher Report is not to be taken seriously, ever.
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