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Post by sdsu2000 on Jul 22, 2015 8:06:56 GMT -8
This whole Jones thing is a mystery. But regardless he was a emergency bench player for us for the next few years if not his whole career. I'd much rather take Narain this year and allow him to redshirt than still have Jones. Narain is going to start next year for us so adding him this year would be huge.
Jones narrowed it down to UTEP, Syracuse, Providence and Memphis. Syracuse has maxed out their scholarships. Sounds like UTEP has no space so they would need to pull a scholarship from someone a month before school starts. Providence offered but Jones isn't a physical player so I don't see him doing well with the east coast style of basketball. Then there's Memphis who's desperate for players because a couple have transferred out. I'd say Memphis and the AAC is taking a big step down from SDSU. Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at a prep school trying to get better offers for 2016.
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Post by standiego on Jul 22, 2015 8:42:07 GMT -8
Would guess the coaches are upset that they were willing to work with BJ even though he was having difficulties through the spring , a time when if they had known of his intensions , could have gone out and recruited other players ,but did not . Lonnie Jackson wanted to come here but we passed and now he is on BSU . Coaches will be upset if he helps beat SDSU ,or other games that put BSU over SDSU . Were there transfer forwards that we missed out on because we had BJ coming in for 2015 , 2016 ....?
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Post by aztec619 on Jul 22, 2015 8:45:58 GMT -8
Link Stan?
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 22, 2015 9:08:28 GMT -8
This whole Jones thing is a mystery. But regardless he was a emergency bench player for us for the next few years if not his whole career. I'd much rather take Narain this year and allow him to redshirt than still have Jones. Narain is going to start next year for us so adding him this year would be huge. Jones narrowed it down to UTEP, Syracuse, Providence and Memphis. Syracuse has maxed out their scholarships. Sounds like UTEP has no space so they would need to pull a scholarship from someone a month before school starts. Providence offered but Jones isn't a physical player so I don't see him doing well with the east coast style of basketball. Then there's Memphis who's desperate for players because a couple have transferred out. I'd say Memphis and the AAC is taking a big step down from SDSU. Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at a prep school trying to get better offers for 2016. If it was one or the other sure, but the unfortunate thing is we could (or should) have had both in the house developing. Unfortunate that a kid gets influenced like that, and hangs onto SDSU when his future is in question but leaves the second he qualifies.
If, as Ziegler inferred, we could have been in the equation for a few true transfers had Jones given us notice its really unfortunate. I'd never root against a kid, but at the same time it won't be easy wishing him success at his next stop. I'm with you - seems like Memphis is his best (& maybe only real) option. I like Postner, but that place appears to have a revolving door policy with guys going in & out, although with the "3 brothers" coming in they should be a pretty good program.
PS. I don't buy the Lonnie Jackson comment by Ziegler. In talking with one of the coaches they weren't going to go after a grad transfer, and instead were going to remain true to Win, Pope, Zylan, Kell, etc. I do believe we may have gone after a true transfer though had we known about BJ earlier.
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Post by standiego on Jul 22, 2015 9:16:03 GMT -8
I was listening as I was driving so you may want to check Mighty 1090 website . Or google Mark Zeigler interview on Mighty 1090 . They have an Aztec section on the Mighty 1090 website . It was on the Darrin Smith show 7/21 about 1.35 pm . Zeigler talked about BJ , JAM Center , Nolan Narain . To my understanding coaches can Not talk about recruits until they sign, so Zeigler's Opinions , ( he tried to be discreet or non specific )are from his discussions with the coaches , players and things he has found out while getting information for his articles in the SD UT . Then put out there by other media. He has direct access to the coaches, as he attends practices and did get a tour of the JAM center .
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Post by johnnyutah on Jul 22, 2015 9:20:55 GMT -8
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Post by Old School on Jul 22, 2015 9:56:39 GMT -8
Is Buddha still relevant? No? Let's move this thread somewhere else.
Oldie Out
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Post by standiego on Jul 22, 2015 10:21:55 GMT -8
I would concur that the Aztec Coaches probably had made a decision that they wanted to reward all the guys coming back with the opportunity to battle for PT , plus 2015 recruit JH . Not take a grad senior ,who probably would want a decent amount of PT . Lonnie Jackson wanted to come here but with the number of scholarships and the PT they passed on him . But we also may not have had the scholarship open to give if we wanted as we had committed to BJ. Would guess we did not work at hard as we could have for a PF / C regular transfer for 2016 , because of BJ . So BJ did mess up the coaches . He would have had the opportunity to show in fall practice if it was better to be an active player or red shirt . Remember both the player and coaches have to agree , to red shirt . If the player says no red shirt ,then they stay on the active squad .
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Post by dirtball on Jul 22, 2015 10:57:27 GMT -8
Ziegler insinuating foul play with the current schools recruiting him is chicken sh*t.
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Post by Gundo on Jul 22, 2015 11:12:54 GMT -8
Ziegler insinuating foul play with the current schools recruiting him is chicken sh*t. Maybe BS, but Tim Floyd is dirty and left USC before the OJ Mayo sanctions hit. HE was handing out $1,000+ handshakes to get Mayo to USC. Memphis HC Josh Pastner is an ass, he lost his entire 2013 class to transfer, he has 8 freshman commitments for 2015 and close to 15 guys on scholarship before Buddah. St John's has been dirty is down to 10 scholly's a year (losing 3 per season.) None of those schools are high character programs, foul play, who knows, where there's smoke there is fire.
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Post by dirtball on Jul 23, 2015 14:22:26 GMT -8
You honestly think anyone would risk their program for Broderick Jones?
Wow.
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Post by fisherville on Jul 23, 2015 14:45:33 GMT -8
Ziegler insinuating foul play with the current schools recruiting him is chicken sh*t. Maybe BS, but Tim Floyd is dirty and left USC before the OJ Mayo sanctions hit. HE was handing out $1,000+ handshakes to get Mayo to USC. Memphis HC Josh Pastner is an ass, he lost his entire 2013 class to transfer, he has 8 freshman commitments for 2015 and close to 15 guys on scholarship before Buddah. St John's has been dirty is down to 10 scholly's a year (losing 3 per season.) None of those schools are high character programs, foul play, who knows, where there's smoke there is fire. There is no smoke.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 23, 2015 14:48:45 GMT -8
You honestly think anyone would risk their program for Broderick Jones? Wow. If they didn't think it'd come back to them, you bet. Jones is the highest rated uncommitted player out there right now, and every coach in America would love to add a last minute 6'9 athlete to their roster. Especially, as in the case of St Johns, Memphis & UTEP, teams that lost players to transfer and may be lacking in size.
I doubt Floyd (who I actually like) would slide any money under the table for Jones, but wouldn't put it past him to "hint" to a BJ family member/friend/AAU coach that they think he'd get a lot more PT right away if he went there instead of SDSU. Especially if there were any rumors about him possibly needing to reclassify to 2016 if he didn't get a passing test score, etc., which would imply BJ would be back on the open market eventually anyway.
I really doubt BJ decided on his own that he was no longer happy going to SDSU & decided to ask for his release without having some conversations first. IMO Grassroots hoops has a lot of sleazy people involved, so wouldn't surprise to hear some under the table tampering was going on to get BJ to consider other options despite the fact he was already signed/committed.
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Post by standiego on Jul 23, 2015 18:06:36 GMT -8
Aztec coaches have said it is very important to try and find out who a recruit listens to most for advise . Can be AAU coach , family , HS coach , College coach , advisers , mentors , or guys not always known . The AAU and some college coaches,... will stretch , bend rules as best they can . If they get away with it then that can be all that matters to them . Reputation for the UTEP and Memphis coaches are not exactly considered clean . Doubt Zeigler would have hinted something unless he heard something from some coaches or found something while he was reporting on BJ . It does not have to be money for it to be considered a dirty maneuver , so unless it gets reported , investigated , proven,doubt there are penalties.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jul 23, 2015 18:35:59 GMT -8
Is Buddha still relevant? No? Let's move this thread somewhere else. Oldie Out Good idea!
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Post by ignoranus on Jul 27, 2015 10:17:39 GMT -8
His level of integrity and work ethic belong at some other entity.
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Post by ab on Aug 2, 2015 16:36:40 GMT -8
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