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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 10, 2014 2:21:49 GMT -8
Assuming Quinn Kaehler wins the starting QB position, who is the back up? Brad Odeman? Chase Favreau? Nick Bawden?
I remember reading somewhere that Nick Bawden is the goods and will push for playing time as a true freshman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 4:20:38 GMT -8
From what I remember its gonna be wide open, with maybe the nod as I type to Favreau just on the fact that he's got a year in the system under his belt.
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Post by TruAztec on Jul 10, 2014 6:41:07 GMT -8
This is in my mind the most important question we need an answer to in August.
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Post by standiego on Jul 10, 2014 8:19:15 GMT -8
Thought when Spring Ball ended Favreau ,because he red shirted the year before ,and knew the system was in the lead for the back up positions . Believe there were comments from Toledo that Odeman and the other freshman who was at Spring Ball ,were still trying to learn the playbook . None of the back ups excelled. QK did not participate in the Spring Practice coming off injury.
There will be a battle to see who back ups QK when fall practice starts . If Odeman is not considerably better then Favreau then he could start the season as a red shirt with the two freshman . Believe you can start the season as a red shirt then switch to an active player if needed . On the other hand with J.R. coming in 2015 , he may want to stay on the active squad .
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Post by darksidereturns on Jul 10, 2014 9:48:25 GMT -8
Coming out of the Spring game Rocky said the following "I think our starting quarterback is still Quinn Kaehler, and it depends on the day of practice who the backup is. So I don't think we've decided on who the back-up quarterback is." Looking at the stats for the game:
Favreau 7-12, 0 INT, 43 yrd, 0 TD - Red Team
Odeman 6-15, 1 INT, 115 yrd, 0 TD - Black
Bawden 12-30, 2 INT, 122 yrd, 3 TD - Both and OT
Asked about Bawden rocky said "Nick did some nice stuff, he also threw an interception in the end zone when they could have scored, and Kalan Montgomery made a great interception in the end zone to keep them from scoring. So it's like everything else: (Bawden) did some nice things, but he did some things that will get you beat too."
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 10, 2014 10:02:06 GMT -8
I think we can all appreciate a few things ...
Rocky Long defers to Bob Toledo when it comes to the offense. It may be Rocky Long making the statement, but I am pretty sure it's Bob Toledo making the call.
The Aztecs will always put the best players in the game regardless of scholarship /walk-on, RS senior /true freshman.
The competition to get onto the field never stops, from spring camp to fall camp and into the weekly practices -- it is just more pronounced on offense. The way the defense substitutes, starters and back-ups both see a lot of playing time ... whereas on offense -- changes at the line or at QB are much more noticeable.
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Post by Old School on Jul 10, 2014 10:57:23 GMT -8
Consistency is key, how consistent (good or bad) will determine your number on the depth chart.
Oldie Out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 16:43:23 GMT -8
From what I remember its gonna be wide open, with maybe the nod as I type to Favreau just on the fact that he's got a year in the system under his belt. I remember when Cree Morris won the backup job by default for that reason behind IIRC, Tim Gutierrez. When Gutierrez went down for the season in like the second game of the year, Morris stepped in and lasted what, two starts?, before Billy Blanton replaced him forever. If QK becomes the next Gutierrez, I see Favreau becoming the next Morris. |
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Post by aztecland on Jul 10, 2014 19:10:40 GMT -8
I think it was David Lowery who replaced Cree Morris and never looked back. Didn't he go something like 8-1 as a starter in 1991?
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Post by tonatiuh on Jul 10, 2014 19:56:58 GMT -8
I saw the spring scrimmage, and even though Bawden did throw two INT's he also passed for more yardage (122), and threw 3 TD's . The other two QB's did not even throw 1 TD. His WR's did not always catch the ball, or run very good routes. And, since he is a Freshman just what were you expecting? Give him a break.
He will learn, and grow, but for a first time he didn't do too badly.
The back up will be determined during fall camp for sure, and all the candidates will get a good opportunity. Not sure who it will be, but I'm not worried about it right now.
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Post by darksidereturns on Jul 10, 2014 20:34:22 GMT -8
It was Lowery to replace Cree Morris under lugi in 91. Blanton took over when Gutierrez went down against Utah in 94.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 10, 2014 20:57:56 GMT -8
I saw the spring scrimmage, and even though Bawden did throw two INT's he also passed for more yardage (122), and threw 3 TD's . The other two QB's did not even throw 1 TD. His WR's did not always catch the ball, or run very good routes. And, since he is a Freshman just what were you expecting? Give him a break. He will learn, and grow, but for a first time he didn't do too badly. The back up will be determined during fall camp for sure, and all the candidates will get a good opportunity. Not sure who it will be, but I'm not worried about it right now. Bawden also had 12 completions of 30 attempts ... from an earlier post: Favreau 7-12, 0 INT, 43 yrd, 0 TD - Red Team Odeman 6-15, 1 INT, 115 yrd, 0 TD - Black Bawden 12-30, 2 INT, 122 yrd, 3 TD - Both and OT |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 12:48:12 GMT -8
It was Lowery to replace Cree Morris under lugi in 91. Blanton took over when Gutierrez went down against Utah in 94. I stand corrected. Thanks to you and actecland for the error messages. The point remains that I never think it's a good idea to award somebody the backup QB job just because he's been around awhile. |
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Post by standiego on Jul 11, 2014 13:05:22 GMT -8
QK will be the QB as long as he is healthy or can perform well . The back up spot then goes to whom ever performs the best during the fall , none of the options have played D1 football or been around the Aztec program very long . Would guess Toledo will go with the back up that can perform the best . Favreau red shirted last year , should know the system but if the any of the other 3 guys steps up and looks as though they could run the team they will be #2 . QK was a walk on last year and passed guys on scholarship - sent a message to all .
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 11, 2014 20:16:05 GMT -8
Has our QB recruiting dropped off over the last four or five years or is it just my imagination that such has happened?
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 11, 2014 20:41:37 GMT -8
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Post by darksidereturns on Jul 11, 2014 21:12:46 GMT -8
Was Jeffries a good recruit because he was the #10 pro style in the country? Was Quinn a good recruit as an unranked walk on who threw for over 3000 yards??
For that matter, you asked if there's been a decline over that last 4-5 years. Let's look at the years prior to that
2009 Jake Bernards
2008 Drew Westling
2007 Ryan Lindley
2006 Kelsey Grammer
2005 nada
2004 Mougey and Craft
Of all those I'd put Quinn 2013 above everything done save 2010 Lindley.
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Post by Old School on Jul 11, 2014 21:19:13 GMT -8
So much for star ratings, huh?
Oldie Out
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 11, 2014 21:31:19 GMT -8
Was Jeffries a good recruit because he was the #10 pro style in the country? Was Quinn a good recruit as an unranked walk on who threw for over 3000 yards?? For that matter, you asked if there's been a decline over that last 4-5 years. Let's look at the years prior to that 2009 Jake Bernards 2008 Drew Westling 2007 Ryan Lindley 2006 Kelsey Grammer 2005 nada 2004 Mougey and Craft Of all those I'd put Quinn 2013 above everything done save 2010 Lindley. I was going to ask him dropped off from what? but I decided to just post the ratings of our current and proposed QBs (other than QK who can't back himself up) |
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Post by OCEOTL on Jul 11, 2014 22:26:36 GMT -8
So much for star ratings, huh? Oldie Out 2014 = 10-2 2015 = 13-0 Hee Haw Damn County Agent |
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