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Post by myownwords on Jan 21, 2013 18:41:50 GMT -8
repeats the pitiful scene on the radio with two sycophants. Missed the interview. what station and with who? I didn't hear it either. The other day another poster said Sterk was on with Scott and BR.
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Post by k5james on Jan 21, 2013 18:54:26 GMT -8
repeats the pitiful scene on the radio with two sycophants. Missed the interview. what station and with who? I heard part of one with the idiot and BR.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jan 21, 2013 18:58:17 GMT -8
We probably know about 10% of the real reasons why we went back to The MWC, personally I don't like the move but they may have information that made the move back the right thing to do.They also know that realignment is probably not over so are being very cautious about what they say to not jepordize future actions. In the buisness I am in every major decision is made in public and often cirtitcized by the press/public.There are times when I am not able to explain publicly why I have made the decisions I do. You definitely have to share it with shareholders though, which we are. What exactly are you claiming to be a 'shareholder' of?
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jan 21, 2013 18:59:42 GMT -8
You definitely have to share it with shareholders though, which we are. What exactly are you claiming to be a 'shareholder' of? Stakeholder is what I believe we all are to Aztec Athletics and SDSU in whole.
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Post by monty on Jan 21, 2013 21:24:06 GMT -8
What exactly are you claiming to be a 'shareholder' of? Stakeholder is what I believe we all are to Aztec Athletics and SDSU in whole. It is exactly what we are. This is why it's nice sometimes to have someone like Brent S in the 4th estate, rather than someone that just likes football.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 8:32:43 GMT -8
We probably know about 10% of the real reasons why we went back to The MWC, personally I don't like the move but they may have information that made the move back the right thing to do.They also know that realignment is probably not over so are being very cautious about what they say to not jepordize future actions. In the buisness I am in every major decision is made in public and often cirtitcized by the press/public.There are times when I am not able to explain publicly why I have made the decisions I do. They tried looking into various options but didn't get anywhere. Sterk then went to the BE meeting in Dallas to see if the BE would give him any reason to think they might still try to grow a western division even without Boise and he got absolutely no encouragement. So unless I hear something I haven't, I'll continue to think all the vitriol against the man is just dumb. Blame Boise and/or the BE, but don't blame Sterk.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 8:36:28 GMT -8
Missed the interview. what station and with who? I didn't hear it either. The other day another poster said Sterk was on with Scott and BR. When it comes to SDSU returning to the MWC, Scott and BA were sycophants. Seems as though that whole station was since Kentera had been opposed to the move to the BE from the beginning. So the interview was basically a waste of time. Just like the Scott and BA show usually is.
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Post by monty on Jan 22, 2013 8:58:52 GMT -8
All due respect, it isn't SGF's job to hint at sources and explain the move, it is the job of public employees that survive on taxes, 18-22 year olds giving them a hundred bucks without any input and a bunch of us old farts that dump whatever into that sink hole. It is the job of the media to actually interview them or to invoke FOIA to discover it.
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Post by myownwords on Jan 22, 2013 9:34:57 GMT -8
Here's the crux of the problem: This "western" conference palaver is a red herring, or straw man---or both, put out there by...actually I'm not sure who started it. It was not part of the deal when Boise and SDSU joined the Big East and with Boise leaving why has it now become the Adminiclown's ramparts to hide behind? We didn't make any western conference demands then. Why now? Just because Boise left? BS. In my opinion there was no dire need of a western conference over the next year or two. We didn't need Boise when they left and we sure as hell don't need them now. But you see, these fools running the show, don't seem to give a flip about explaining any of this, or even allow a 1st year journalism student question them.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Jan 22, 2013 14:56:57 GMT -8
The shrinking BE reminds me of that famous quip about Oakland: “There’s no there there.” It was true of Oakland, and it’s true of the Big East. What was sold to us and Boise a year ago isn’t real anymore. A BE with no Boise was destined not to ever have much appeal for a far-west school like SDSU. For me, being in league with Houston and SMU was the last selling point remaining in the dying league, and we’ll be together with them eventually anyway. As has been written, the BE will soon be CUSA rebranded, which is not good.
Those still bashing Hirshman and Sterk refuse to acknowledge that there are details of this decision they know and we don’t. And I say let them keep playing it close to the vest. They undoubtedly possess confidential facts that will be of strategic advantage soon enough when the realignment carousel spins again. In the meantime our job as alums is to help replace the nonexistent BE revenue by continuing to support our department through these lean MWC years. It’s all we can do.
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Post by k5james on Jan 22, 2013 15:27:48 GMT -8
The shrinking BE reminds me of that famous quip about Oakland: “There’s no there there.” It was true of Oakland, and it’s true of the Big East. What was sold to us and Boise a year ago isn’t real anymore. A BE with no Boise was destined not to ever have much appeal for a far-west school like SDSU. For me, being in league with Houston and SMU was the last selling point remaining in the dying league, and we’ll be together with them eventually anyway. As has been written, the BE will soon be CUSA rebranded, which is not good. Those still bashing Hirshman and Sterk refuse to acknowledge that there are details of this decision they know and we don’t. And I say let them keep playing it close to the vest. They undoubtedly possess confidential facts that will be of strategic advantage soon enough when the realignment carousel spins again. In the meantime our job as alums is to help replace the nonexistent BE revenue by continuing to support our department through these lean MWC years. It’s all we can do. And the MWC is the rebranded WAC, which you refuse to acknowledge. Jeff Schemmel and Rick Bay were privy to facts we couldn't know, should we have just blindly followed their marching orders?
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Post by monty on Jan 22, 2013 15:37:51 GMT -8
Yea, god forbid those that give money to an organization feel entitled to hear how that organization intends to use that money and stay solvent.
Those that work in institutions funded by tax payers and donors should just be trusted that they are making the right choices, I'm sure they are, why wouldn't they? 2 people should decide the direction in a vacuum with no accountability of a 40mil dollar athletic department and a billion+ university
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Post by monty on Jan 22, 2013 15:39:45 GMT -8
The shrinking BE reminds me of that famous quip about Oakland: “There’s no there there.” It was true of Oakland, and it’s true of the Big East. What was sold to us and Boise a year ago isn’t real anymore. A BE with no Boise was destined not to ever have much appeal for a far-west school like SDSU. For me, being in league with Houston and SMU was the last selling point remaining in the dying league, and we’ll be together with them eventually anyway. As has been written, the BE will soon be CUSA rebranded, which is not good. Those still bashing Hirshman and Sterk refuse to acknowledge that there are details of this decision they know and we don’t. And I say let them keep playing it close to the vest. They undoubtedly possess confidential facts that will be of strategic advantage soon enough when the realignment carousel spins again. In the meantime our job as alums is to help replace the nonexistent BE revenue by continuing to support our department through these lean MWC years. It’s all we can do. And the MWC is the rebranded WAC, which you refuse to acknowledge. Jeff Schemmel and Rick Bay were privy to facts we couldn't know, should we have just blindly followed their marching orders? YOU'RE SO [INSERT CUTESY PICTURE HERE], YOU SHOULD DIE BY BEING ASPHYXIATED VIA SNUGGIE AND FLAGGED TO DEATH. SARCASM, DOUCHERY, SARCASM, CUTESY PICTURE, SHOW.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Jan 23, 2013 15:06:13 GMT -8
The shrinking BE reminds me of that famous quip about Oakland: “There’s no there there.” It was true of Oakland, and it’s true of the Big East. What was sold to us and Boise a year ago isn’t real anymore. A BE with no Boise was destined not to ever have much appeal for a far-west school like SDSU. For me, being in league with Houston and SMU was the last selling point remaining in the dying league, and we’ll be together with them eventually anyway. As has been written, the BE will soon be CUSA rebranded, which is not good. Those still bashing Hirshman and Sterk refuse to acknowledge that there are details of this decision they know and we don’t. And I say let them keep playing it close to the vest. They undoubtedly possess confidential facts that will be of strategic advantage soon enough when the realignment carousel spins again. In the meantime our job as alums is to help replace the nonexistent BE revenue by continuing to support our department through these lean MWC years. It’s all we can do. And the MWC is the rebranded WAC, which you refuse to acknowledge. Jeff Schemmel and Rick Bay were privy to facts we couldn't know, should we have just blindly followed their marching orders? No, James, I’ve said the new MWC is a dead end for us, and it is. But the BE is nearing its dead end even faster. Sterk had a choice between the frying pan and the other frying pan, and he did what he could. The trick now is to stave off insolvency until A) the MWC gets a real media deal, B) there’s another airport meeting, or C) we overachieve enough to somehow attract the Big 12, not necessarily in that order. Yeah, I know that just two years ago we told SJSU and USU they didn’t bring value to the MWC. They’re in the league now only because we and Boise tried to leave. So today’s MWC is actually crummier than the one we tried to get out of a year ago. But what would we have been jumping to? There are rumors the BE is talking about adding Marshall now. What kind of TV deal will they get for that? At least the MWC is the devil we know. The BE was a risk no longer worth taking. Boise State achieved national prominence beating the likes of USU, NMSU and Idaho. We can accomplish the same in the MWC, if we just get off our asses and finally do it. I believe by the end of this decade the Big 12 will expand both east and west, and if we prove worthy then we’ll have a shot. As for your second sentence, neither Bay nor Schemmel were ever in a situation like this because neither was proactive. They had no ambitions to move the department forward. Sterk has attempted to actually lead us for a change, and I believe he still has cards up his sleeve. I’ll give him the benefit of more time.
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