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Post by myownwords on Jan 7, 2013 9:15:11 GMT -8
What does that even mean? "...move on SDSU"? What? Yea, I'm trying to figure out what the hell that means. move on as in, well, I'm moving on, or move on as in I need to get my move on. It must be Craig Thompson since the guy can't put together a sentence without some unnecessary ambiguity He just seems petty, childish and annoying....nails on chalkboard annoying. |
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Post by cpslograd on Jan 7, 2013 9:23:25 GMT -8
I believe that the MWC has extended an offer to SDSU. Ya think? The expected stuff in the article obviously comes from the MWC and is intended to get us to take a dump (i.e. rejoin) or get off the pot. If the ESPN guy Brennan isn't just talking out of his posterior and the BE is actually seriously considering asking Tulsa, Slippery Rock and Podunk State, we might as well take that dump. HOWEVER, even if we do, this isn't going to be over unless Hair can get a huge increase in the MWC's exit fee. Something like the $20M+ that Yoda said in one of his numerous psots that he now can't see to recall. In the absence of such an increase to the exit fee, another airport meeting within the next few years is a virtual guarantee. Could be an airport meeting, could be a rework of the revenue system, could be an exodus of some of the valuable members other than Boise. But one way or the other, the revenue system will destroy the MWC most likely. It's a house of cards that makes fighting over money unavoidable. |
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Post by Yoda on Jan 7, 2013 9:28:12 GMT -8
HOWEVER, even if we do, this isn't going to be over unless Hair can get a huge increase in the MWC's exit fee. Something like the $20M+ that Yoda said in one of his numerous psots that he now can't see to recall. Hey, I'm old. Cut me some slack. If it wasn't for bad memory I wouldn't have any memory at all. Yoda out... . |
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Post by bitteraztec on Jan 7, 2013 9:29:19 GMT -8
"Move on"
I take it in the context as, hide your sister before Andre makes a "move on" her.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 9:58:08 GMT -8
"Move on" I take it in the context as, hide your sister before Andre makes a "move on" her. it'll happen eventually |
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Post by monty on Jan 7, 2013 10:01:26 GMT -8
I believe it's spelled yer sister
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Post by therealeman on Jan 7, 2013 10:08:46 GMT -8
Word or the ROOMER on twitter is that we are backing out of the BE and SDSU has informed Aresco. The announcement will be made after the new contract with the MWC is finalized.
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Post by myownwords on Jan 7, 2013 10:12:12 GMT -8
Word or the ROOMER on twitter is that we are backing out of the BE and SDSU has informed Aresco. The announcement will be made after the new contract with the MWC is finalized. And yet not a single rumor from the Big East and not a single rumor from the Big West. And why would we not wait---going along with you now---until the last minute, January 31? Why do it now? |
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Post by SD Johnny on Jan 7, 2013 10:20:34 GMT -8
Word or the ROOMER on twitter is that we are backing out of the BE and SDSU has informed Aresco. The announcement will be made after the new contract with the MWC is finalized. The rumor came from a lunatic that's makes insane predictions daily. |
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Post by NTU on Jan 7, 2013 10:22:37 GMT -8
Could be an airport meeting, could be a rework of the revenue system, could be an exodus of some of the valuable members other than Boise. But one way or the other, the revenue system will destroy the MWC most likely. It's a house of cards that makes fighting over money unavoidable. This current revenue system will only be in place for three more years (football seasons), so while it certainly looks like a windfall for Boise St., it will be a short lived one. And don't give me that "they have an option through 2020" bull$#!+. They won't exercise it. It's toxic and they know it. It's essentially a poison pill that the network can lord over the conference in negotiations. They'll start over for the 2016 season. At that point we'll really see what the conference is worth, which I think will mean a substantial raise in payout. Here's another thing about the reworked contract and the national TV bonuses: If we were New Mexico or San Jose St. or Colorado St. or Wyoming, then I could see seriously kvetching about it. But we're not those programs, and the way I see it is that San Diego State University is in a much better position to take advantage of this new system than anyone else in the league save Boise. If this program and this school is what we all think it is, then it'll earn its share of that performance pie. And if you're too scared to take that risk, well then that says something about the level of confidence in the program. The only reason to stick with the BE is money. But the landscape has done a 180, and until Aresco shows us otherwise, the money and thus the incentive to make the move is no longer there. The added money the BE offered last July made the risk well worth taking--and moving to the BE was a HUGE risk. That's no longer the case. Neither situation is ideal, but we're back at the point where it's better to dance with the devil you know than the devil you don't know. And we don't know $#!+ about what the BE will look like two years from now, or what their revenues will be. |
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Post by k5james on Jan 7, 2013 10:25:49 GMT -8
You still don't get how the contract works NTU.
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Post by monty on Jan 7, 2013 10:27:54 GMT -8
still more fantasy on the fact this isn't a deal until 2020 - if we come back, that is the first thing we need to renegotiate, getting that option torn up, time for the MWC to suck it up and not try to get another hundred grand and get rid of cbs in 2016
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Post by NTU on Jan 7, 2013 10:31:00 GMT -8
You still don't get how the contract works NTU. And you both said that they wouldn't budge on the current deal either, and yet here we are with a reworked structure. You two don't exactly have a track record worth boasting about...... |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jan 7, 2013 10:31:59 GMT -8
Could be an airport meeting, could be a rework of the revenue system, could be an exodus of some of the valuable members other than Boise. But one way or the other, the revenue system will destroy the MWC most likely. It's a house of cards that makes fighting over money unavoidable. This current revenue system will only be in place for three more years (football seasons), so while it certainly looks like a windfall for Boise St., it will be a short lived one. And don't give me that "they have an option through 2020" bull$#!+. They won't exercise it. It's toxic and they know it. It's essentially a poison pill that the network can lord over the conference in negotiations. They'll start over for the 2016 season. At that point we'll really see what the conference is worth, which I think will mean a substantial raise in payout. Here's another thing about the reworked contract and the national TV bonuses: If we were New Mexico or San Jose St. or Colorado St. or Wyoming, then I could see seriously kvetching about it. But we're not those programs, and the way I see it is that San Diego State University is in a much better position to take advantage of this new system than anyone else in the league save Boise. If this program and this school is what we all think it is, then it'll earn its share of that performance pie. And if you're too scared to take that risk, well then that says something about the level of confidence in the program. The only reason to stick with the BE is money. But the landscape has done a 180, and until Aresco shows us otherwise, the money and thus the incentive to make the move is no longer there. The added money the BE offered last July made the risk well worth taking--and moving to the BE was a HUGE risk. That's no longer the case. Neither situation is ideal, but we're back at the point where it's better to dance with the devil you know than the devil you don't know. And we don't know $#!+ about what the BE will look like two years from now, or what their revenues will be. Umm, CBS has an option to extend the deal to 2020. |
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Post by hbaztec on Jan 7, 2013 10:33:25 GMT -8
You still don't get how the contract works NTU. Boise is in complete control. They get to vote on which games that will be sold. Nobody else has that luxury, the front range schools will pick which games get national exposure. They don't even want us in the conference to begin with, and their going to give us an option to make extra cash? Geesh, even the Idaho statesmen admits it. |
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Post by bitteraztec on Jan 7, 2013 10:33:39 GMT -8
I would guess that we would get the same deal as Boise, minus home games being excluded from future contracts. Both SDSU and MWC benefit from excluding our home games from CBS with the current MWC contract.
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Post by monty on Jan 7, 2013 10:34:40 GMT -8
You still don't get how the contract works NTU. And you both said that they wouldn't budge on the current deal either, and yet here we are with a reworked structure. You two don't exactly have a track record worth boasting about...... Boise is an indy and everything else stays the same, not really a reworked structure. |
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Post by NTU on Jan 7, 2013 10:53:06 GMT -8
And you both said that they wouldn't budge on the current deal either, and yet here we are with a reworked structure. You two don't exactly have a track record worth boasting about...... Boise is an indy and everything else stays the same, not really a reworked structure. Yeah, actually it is. You first have the bonus structure. You also have the ability to sell ANY games or package of games to any other major network, including ESPN, which didn't exist before. CBS Sports essentially has second pick if other networks are interested in picking up games now. That's not how it worked before--the first and second tier are different under this structure. Third tier remains the same. Boise is packaged separately, true. But other schools have the same opportunity to piecemeal their games for bigger payout, too. And the way I see it is that SDSU is in a better position than anyone else to take advantage of that. And let me say this again: The 2020 option for CBS will not happen. They will not pick it up. Too toxic and they know it, especially with a 12-14 team league. It's bad faith and bad for business long term. And they won't tolerate their best inventory being snatched up by other networks for 8 more years. |
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Post by hbaztec on Jan 7, 2013 11:00:17 GMT -8
Boise is an indy and everything else stays the same, not really a reworked structure. Boise is packaged separately, true. But other schools have the same opportunity to piecemeal their games for bigger payout, too. And the way I see it is that SDSU is in a better position than anyone else to take advantage of that. The only caveat is the MWC gets to decide which games, not the individual schools, if I am not mistaken. |
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Post by monty on Jan 7, 2013 11:01:32 GMT -8
Boise is packaged separately, true. But other schools have the same opportunity to piecemeal their games for bigger payout, too. And the way I see it is that SDSU is in a better position than anyone else to take advantage of that. The only caveat is the MWC gets to decide which games, not the individual schools, if I am not mistaken. And CBS gets first shot at the games, so other than the ability to in reality sell other games, it's exactly the same. |
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