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Post by 78aztec82 on Nov 11, 2012 14:13:41 GMT -8
I also look at the body of work. If we applied your logic, we'd have benched Lindley for some head-scratchers that he threw. Dingwell has command and respect. He has won some enormous games for us that transcend some bad passes. He adds dimension with his legs, although it looks like Ludwig has kept him home a bit lately. No doubt that Jeffries will have his shot but there is something to say about consistency and experience rather than a pattern of switching out key positions. I like the idea of a 1 going into Spring and what it can do for us in the longer run. Ha, I really have no logic to my madness just a simple opinion. And about Lindley I thought several times Lindley should of been benched for a "couple plays" to get his head right, by no means the entire game. I guess you and I will never agree. All I want to see is that the other QB's get a chance meaning Jefferies to see what he can do. Don't forget Borges and Hoke were high on this kid. Nah, we probably see it closer than we appear. I think Jeffries will get a good look, I just like continuity and having a clear #1 in the Spring gives the team something to build around and I think Dingwell is better than some here think. To me, it goes beyond critiquing each pass but how he runs the offense and thinks on his feet. I think he'll continue to mature and grow in his role. That is important in a longer sense. If Jeffries works hard in the off-season, he'll get a look but of all things are equal, we should stay with Adam. |
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Post by screwdriver on Nov 11, 2012 14:24:24 GMT -8
I also look at the body of work. If we applied your logic, we'd have benched Lindley for some head-scratchers that he threw. Dingwell has command and respect. He has won some enormous games for us that transcend some bad passes. He adds dimension with his legs, although it looks like Ludwig has kept him home a bit lately. No doubt that Jeffries will have his shot but there is something to say about consistency and experience rather than a pattern of switching out key positions. I like the idea of a 1 going into Spring and what it can do for us in the longer run. Ha, I really have no logic to my madness just a simple opinion. And about Lindley I thought several times Lindley should of been benched for a "couple plays" to get his head right, by no means the entire game. I guess you and I will never agree. All I want to see is that the other QB's get a chance meaning Jefferies to see what he can do. Don't forget Borges and Hoke were high on this kid. Are you a Jefferies relative? J/W. Hoke recruited the Dingwell also & honored him with Off MVP of the scout team his first year here. Hope Jefferies can make it thru the year with no injuries. I seem to remember him being injured in high school & it's been mentioned a couple of times since he's been here. I'd like to see what the kid has. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 19:01:54 GMT -8
Andre, This is comical. Your responses to every one one of this guy's posts here are the exact same ones I would have made... awesome! I still contend that this guy represents one of two things... he's either a character created by someone here to make the board more active or he is just a very unhappy person. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Nov 11, 2012 20:47:03 GMT -8
Tough one. Katz was good but IMHO Dingwell is better. Possibly a lot better.
It would be Katz's last college game so he should at least get some PT if he's healthy.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Nov 11, 2012 21:23:34 GMT -8
I'm not very enthusiastic about Dingwell's future as THE quarterback. I doubt that he is the starter next year. To me his accuracy reminds me of Lindley, except Lindley had unique receivers. And I don't think he makes good decisions, which of course can be brushed aside by his lack of experience, but my sense is that it's deeper than that. It was certainly obvious yesterday that Adam was amped up, off his game. Not the guy that droped that beautiful pass down into Escobar's hands to salt away (almost) the game at Boise. That happens to a young QB. To your point, do you really think someone arrives on the scene and supplants Dingwell next year? Who in the world would that be? And, please don't say Bernards, or Jeffries. It would be astounding for another QB to surpass a guy who has led the team to four straight wins. |
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Post by myownwords on Nov 11, 2012 22:01:34 GMT -8
I'm not very enthusiastic about Dingwell's future as THE quarterback. I doubt that he is the starter next year. To me his accuracy reminds me of Lindley, except Lindley had unique receivers. And I don't think he makes good decisions, which of course can be brushed aside by his lack of experience, but my sense is that it's deeper than that. It was certainly obvious yesterday that Adam was amped up, off his game. Not the guy that droped that beautiful pass down into Escobar's hands to salt away (almost) the game at Boise. That happens to a young QB. To your point, do you really think someone arrives on the scene and supplants Dingwell next year? Who in the world would that be? And, please don't say Bernards, or Jeffries. It would be astounding for another QB to surpass a guy who has led the team to four straight wins. You make a good point on our QB situation. I feel that Jeffries and Morin will make strong runs at the position. Whoever wins that in the spring and fall will likely be the QB for the next two years because we have no one else to turn to unless we pull a rabbit out of the hat this recruiting season. We took one QB in last year's class (not including Katz) and no one so far in this year's. |
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Post by seagull on Nov 12, 2012 0:44:26 GMT -8
Katz is out for SIX MONTHS, so I'm pretty sure your second point is moot.
Dingwell isn't going to run because of the risk of what happened to Katz. Perhaps, if we need him to run in the bowl game, Adam can be turned loose!
BTW, most coaches do not ever ascribe to the theory that a starter doesn't lose his job to injury. You are quoting that rascal Al Luginbill. It's a fairly stupid motto. While being true to the injured starter, you may be hurting the entire team. Remember, that Luginbill wouldn't start MARSHALL FAULK for that foolish reason.
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Post by McQuervo on Nov 12, 2012 2:08:29 GMT -8
Andre, This is comical. Your responses to every one one of this guy's posts here are the exact same ones I would have made... awesome! I still contend that this guy represents one of two things... he's either a character created by someone here to make the board more active or he is just a very unhappy person. By the continual negative posts, it appears to be the latter. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 8:23:57 GMT -8
This thread needs to relax itself. We should all just be laughing and saying, it's a good day when you're in a position that when qb1 goes down his backup can come in, win, and take over the offense. He has talent and talent around him, we're in a good spot. Plus one million or so. |
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Post by Simsonic on Nov 12, 2012 8:29:17 GMT -8
Are you people kidding?
Dingwell throws rockets. He has missed a few times, but for the most part the kid is pretty darn accurate. I am very, very high on him. And the team rallies around the guy...not the same can be said about Katz
Although I love Katz attitude and professionalism, he tried to make too much happen by himself. Dingwell let's others be the stars. That's what we want in our QB .
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Post by longtimebooster on Nov 12, 2012 8:46:30 GMT -8
Are you people kidding? Dingwell throws rockets. He has missed a few times, but for the most part the kid is pretty darn accurate. I am very, very high on him. And the team rallies around the guy...not the same can be said about Katz Although I love Katz attitude and professionalism, he tried to make too much happen by himself. Dingwell let's others be the stars. That's what we want in our QB . Concur. Katz was 4-3. Dingwell is 4-0. Nuff said. Katz definitely had some wheels and a canon arm. Dingwell has some decent wheels (he's mobile, but a tad slower than Katz) and has every bit the arm that Katz does. However, Dingwell is better than Katz in a few key areas: * He can throw a better deep ball than Katz * He has much better touch. Not every pass needs to be a rifle shot. Dingwell can finesse a ball, if necessary. He's much better at fade routes, etc. * He's more accurate. Dude can put the ball on a dime. Katz, not so much. * His team really rallies behind him and pulls together during crunch time: See the 4th quarter/OT tapes of the Nevada and BSU games. |
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Post by fatmanaztec on Nov 13, 2012 9:29:56 GMT -8
One word for MOW and others: "SCOREBOARD".
Give it all you can, but with Slingwell at QB the record speaks for itself and these were not patsy wins either.
Check the record book to see who last won this many starts to a career. He may not be Victoria Secret pretty or sexy, but he WINS.
No one here has any true insider information as to what the coaches are asking of Slingwell. Bottom line is that he has won every game he has started and 'helped' in a come from behind win on the road against a very good team while coming off the bench 'cold'.
Coaches will make decisions in the spring and next fall, but to discount a player that has LED this team to the record they are at is disgusting.
Just sayin...
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