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Post by ned4 on Nov 11, 2012 8:00:43 GMT -8
He was struggling on the defensive end. We are overloaded this year at the 2 but both are seniors. Makes perfect sense. Good move.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Nov 11, 2012 8:05:14 GMT -8
Fish only redshirts players in a mutual decision situation. He gives them complete control over the decision. For those that think that Shrigley will leave because of this don't follow Fisher very closely.
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Post by myinnerself on Nov 11, 2012 8:41:50 GMT -8
This is how that went:
Fish: Matt, let's get something straight, I think you're gonna be a star. We love how you work in practice and you're getting better everyday. I think you've earned the right to play this year, but we have a lot of wings on this team right now and minutes will be limited for everyone. We think you'd help us this year, but we also like the idea of you redshirting and having a year to learn the system and get stronger and an extra year of eligibility down the line. I wouldn't make this decision for you, so I'll put it in your hands.
Probably the same EXACT thing he said to Jamaal his freshman year, and Jamaal chose to not redshirt and battle for minutes. Either way, I love that Fish puts that decision into the hands of the athletes.
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Post by aztecgold on Nov 11, 2012 9:06:08 GMT -8
I think he may have been better than Rahon this year, but it makes Fisher's job easier. Puts more pressure on Rahon to make his outside shot though. They need someone to come in and consistently make the 3.
And yes, the paper said it was Shrigley's decision.
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Post by zed on Nov 11, 2012 9:10:22 GMT -8
Deep down, I always knew this would happen. To make a poker analogy...Fish discarded a 6 or 7 this season and hopefully will have a facecard to add to his hand next year. I'm all in with Fish.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Nov 11, 2012 9:14:59 GMT -8
Look at the difference in decisions between Franklin and Shrigley...one had the confidence and the other unsure. Franklin did not get much value from his Freshman year. I am not sure how solid this argument is. Franklin had an innate confidence in his ability to play immediately...I guess Shrigley doesn't. Franklin got value out of playing in the NCAA tourney...I guess Shrigley won't. Franklin took what he learned from his freshman year and blew up in his Sophomore year. The verdict will be out for Shrigley. Confidence and experience in pressure situation begets a winning attitude. Franklin is a winner.
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Post by mySTRAS on Nov 11, 2012 9:28:50 GMT -8
Franklin did not get much value from his Freshman year. I am not sure how solid this argument is. Franklin had an innate confidence in his ability to play immediately...I guess Shrigley doesn't. Franklin got value out of playing in the NCAA tourney...I guess Shrigley won't. Franklin took what he learned from his freshman year and blew up in his Sophomore year. The verdict will be out for Shrigley. Confidence and experience in pressure situation begets a winning attitude. Franklin is a winner. I'm beginnng to see the silver lining here... with Matt redshirting... he won't have a chance to pick up a bonehead T in the Sweet 16 that potentially costs our team a trip to the Elite 8... you know, like someone else did.
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Post by montezumasrevenge on Nov 11, 2012 9:29:08 GMT -8
Franklin did not get much value from his Freshman year. I am not sure how solid this argument is. Franklin had an innate confidence in his ability to play immediately...I guess Shrigley doesn't. Franklin got value out of playing in the NCAA tourney...I guess Shrigley won't. Franklin took what he learned from his freshman year and blew up in his Sophomore year. The verdict will be out for Shrigley. Confidence and experience in pressure situation begets a winning attitude. Franklin is a winner. Franklin has a laser focus on his ultimate goal to make to the next level as soon as he can. He even gave thought to declaring for the NBA draft after his freshman year according to reports. I don't think you can infer Shrigley is lacking something because of how Franklin's situation played out.
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Post by podpeople on Nov 11, 2012 9:46:29 GMT -8
Deep down, I always knew this would probably happen. there's something odd about that sentence. absolute certainty about the probability of an uncertainty.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Nov 11, 2012 10:38:52 GMT -8
Franklin had an innate confidence in his ability to play immediately...I guess Shrigley doesn't. Franklin got value out of playing in the NCAA tourney...I guess Shrigley won't. Franklin took what he learned from his freshman year and blew up in his Sophomore year. The verdict will be out for Shrigley. Confidence and experience in pressure situation begets a winning attitude. Franklin is a winner. I'm beginnng to see the silver lining here... with Matt redshirting... he won't have a chance to pick up a bonehead T in the Sweet 16 that potentially costs our team a trip to the Elite 8... you know, like someone else did. Shrigley won't be the conference MVP next year either...if ever.
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Post by Aztec Empire on Nov 11, 2012 12:54:43 GMT -8
Wow. Can't say I would have guessed... Sadly, I saw it coming. It makes logical sense but all the same I think we will miss not having such a talent on the team this year.
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Post by zed on Nov 11, 2012 16:19:07 GMT -8
Deep down, I always knew this would probably happen. there's something odd about that sentence. absolute certainty about the probability of an uncertainty. You got me nerd ! I think it was the hangover talking.
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Post by AztecBill on Nov 11, 2012 20:13:47 GMT -8
I knew the Aztecs wanted him to red shirt. I had no idea what Shrigley was thinking.
Jamaal not red shirting is tottaly irrelavant because he would never play his 5th year. If someone red shirts and then leaves early...the former (unless it was for injury) is really stupid.
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Post by sdsuballer on Nov 11, 2012 23:02:15 GMT -8
I personally don't like BB players to red shirt unless its for injury purpose. During some of the tournaments in December we will need him alot since back to back games are though on starters. The only person on this team that would have benefited from red shirting would have been LBF. However his situation is a little different since we need his scholarship two years down the road.
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Post by bearfoot on Nov 12, 2012 2:32:16 GMT -8
I think he may have been better than Rahon this year, but it makes Fisher's job easier. Puts more pressure on Rahon to make his outside shot though. They need someone to come in and consistently make the 3. And yes, the paper said it was Shrigley's decision. Rahon is a very good, almost great D player. Matt has been lost a bunch in the practice games. I was surprised they made this decision, but think it is great for the team.
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Post by docmm on Nov 12, 2012 8:21:24 GMT -8
I hate it but love it too. This team is so much deeper than the one Franklin declined to redshirt for. It's apples and oranges.
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Post by ignoranus on Nov 12, 2012 8:41:02 GMT -8
Shrigley made a very mature decision. Too many guys, too few minutes. Get better and next year a lot of minutes are available.
Hope that he watched the SU guards and realized that he can get a LOT better over the next year and be a huge contributor in future years. Smart move, Shrigley! This will improve your chance of getting to the next level.
Please adopt the KL gym rat attitude and work on ALL aspects of your game skills. Formulate a plan for improving EVERY skill.
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