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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 10:57:46 GMT -8
This is all your opinion and nothing else. And basic logic. You're the worst. It's absolutely ridiculous how much stake you claim on having inside information.
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Post by insider on Oct 15, 2012 11:07:14 GMT -8
You're the worst. It's absolutely ridiculous how much stake you claim on having inside information. Ad hominem. Come up with a logical argument instead of throwing blanket statements.
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Post by danloc09 on Oct 15, 2012 11:15:06 GMT -8
It isn't. Conference is about 6th-8th on the list unless you are at the big 12/pac 12 this is how bad programs can get decent recruits. But more important than conference: 1. Coach relationships, nothing is more important in basketball recruiting 2. Program tradition 3. National visibility, this is totally different than conference as schools like St Mary's, Gonzaga, Creighton, and Butler now have it more so. 4. Fan Support 5. Practice facilities/game facilities/weight rooms 6. Location, it does play a big role, especially for parents 7. Playing time. 8. School NBA reputation So maybe 6th-8th was actually placing too much importance on conference. I think the idea that all recruits have the same hierarchy as far as what is important to them is pretty foolish.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 11:16:35 GMT -8
You're the worst. It's absolutely ridiculous how much stake you claim on having inside information. Ad hominem. Come up with a logical argument instead of throwing blanket statements. My first comment was the logical argument. I'd agree that all those things go into a players decision, but the order that you put them in was purely to back up an argument that you already held.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 11:53:26 GMT -8
It isn't. Conference is about 6th-8th on the list unless you are at the big 12/pac 12 this is how bad programs can get decent recruits. But more important than conference: 1. Coach relationships, nothing is more important in basketball recruiting 2. Program tradition 3. National visibility, this is totally different than conference as schools like St Mary's, Gonzaga, Creighton, and Butler now have it more so. 4. Fan Support 5. Practice facilities/game facilities/weight rooms 6. Location, it does play a big role, especially for parents 7. Playing time. 8. School NBA reputation So maybe 6th-8th was actually placing too much importance on conference. I think the idea that all recruits have the same hierarchy as far as what is important to them is pretty foolish. The EA Sports NCAA Football series has plainly proven you to be correct.
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Post by danloc09 on Oct 15, 2012 11:57:22 GMT -8
I think the idea that all recruits have the same hierarchy as far as what is important to them is pretty foolish. The EA Sports NCAA Football series has plainly proven you to be correct. How we're never an A+ for campus lifestyle I will never know.
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Post by bschmurda on Oct 15, 2012 12:04:19 GMT -8
The EA Sports NCAA Football series has plainly proven you to be correct. How we're never an A+ for campus lifestyle I will never know. hahaha
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Post by Hank on Oct 16, 2012 11:55:19 GMT -8
williams is a 3 star on scout. Rivals has him 3 stars as well. After reading reports of those that have watched him play I'm excited to see what he brings to the Mesa.
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Post by podpeople on Oct 16, 2012 12:25:55 GMT -8
I find it odd that everyone has this idea that our Basketball program will have an eternal return of greatness anyhow. I'm thankful that we have had the seasons that we've had. I never would have thunk it, that our Basketball team would have such a vast following, that we'd be landing 5 star recruits, that we'd have such a great coach and man in Steve Fisher leading the way. This is all I've ever asked for having been born and raised in San Diego, a sports team to be proud of.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Oct 16, 2012 14:16:43 GMT -8
I think we can officially put to rest the fallacy that moving to the Big West was going to kill recruiting now. I thought Dakarai Allen was a great start, but landing one 4 star recruit and one 2/3 star recruit (that is said 4 star recruits' teammate, no less) is in no way saying recruiting hasn't been hurt by the Big West move. Oh...your allowed to argue all you want, just don't get butt hurt when you are called out for being wrong. For example when you make an argument based solely on old recruiting rankings without any background information what-so-ever on the player. By the way, Rivals just updated their rankings and now Williams is rated higher than teammates Allen and Johnson on the NorCal list! He is sure to be He has already been upgraded to a 4 star as a result. sandiegostate.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=985&CID=1420593 So wouldn't it be silly for coaches to rely on ratings when recruiting players?? Shouldn't they trust their instincts? Maybe you should trust the coaches who have build such an amazing program. The Big West ain't going to hurt a bit. Kids make decisions based on all kinds of reasons, but a conference downgrade alone obviously has little overall impact. Think Macro over Micro!
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Oct 16, 2012 19:19:29 GMT -8
So... so far in 2012, that's two 4* commits for 2013 and our program's first signed 5* recruit, and we're in the lead for one fo the best recruits in the country for next year.
We're going to be mainstays in the tourney for years to come.
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Post by aztecs4life on Oct 17, 2012 3:38:08 GMT -8
I thought Dakarai Allen was a great start, but landing one 4 star recruit and one 2/3 star recruit (that is said 4 star recruits' teammate, no less) is in no way saying recruiting hasn't been hurt by the Big West move. Oh...your allowed to argue all you want, just don't get butt hurt when you are called out for being wrong. For example when you make an argument based solely on old recruiting rankings without any background information what-so-ever on the player. By the way, Rivals just updated their rankings and now Williams is rated higher than teammates Allen and Johnson on the NorCal list! He is sure to be He has already been upgraded to a 4 star as a result. sandiegostate.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=985&CID=1420593 So wouldn't it be silly for coaches to rely on ratings when recruiting players?? Shouldn't they trust their instincts? Maybe you should trust the coaches who have build such an amazing program. The Big West ain't going to hurt a bit. Kids make decisions based on all kinds of reasons, but a conference downgrade alone obviously has little overall impact. Think Macro over Micro! D'erryl Williams is a 4 star? Rivals has him at 3 stars as of right now.
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Post by heyimallenk on Oct 17, 2012 6:42:09 GMT -8
Oh...your allowed to argue all you want, just don't get butt hurt when you are called out for being wrong. For example when you make an argument based solely on old recruiting rankings without any background information what-so-ever on the player. By the way, Rivals just updated their rankings and now Williams is rated higher than teammates Allen and Johnson on the NorCal list! He is sure to be He has already been upgraded to a 4 star as a result. sandiegostate.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=985&CID=1420593 So wouldn't it be silly for coaches to rely on ratings when recruiting players?? Shouldn't they trust their instincts? Maybe you should trust the coaches who have build such an amazing program. The Big West ain't going to hurt a bit. Kids make decisions based on all kinds of reasons, but a conference downgrade alone obviously has little overall impact. Think Macro over Micro! D'erryl Williams is a 4 star? Rivals has him at 3 stars as of right now. Outside of those high-major can't-misses, stars mean very little until senior seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2012 7:15:27 GMT -8
D'erryl Williams is a 4 star? Rivals has him at 3 stars as of right now. Outside of those high-major can't-misses, stars mean very little until senior seasons. Exactly. Some may recall JerVaughn Johnson was a highly touted recruit early in high school. Was the CA freshman and/or sophomore of the year but quit growing/developing. He did have a nice senior yr at Fullerton though.
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 17, 2012 7:56:27 GMT -8
D'erryl Williams is a 4 star? Rivals has him at 3 stars as of right now. Outside of those high-major can't-misses, stars mean very little until senior seasons. Stars are an indication of potential. That is what we are excited about. You sound like New Mexico fans who signed players all rated below the 3 players the Aztecs signed and still think they are all better because Alford knows better than those rating the recruits.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Oct 17, 2012 10:36:47 GMT -8
D'erryl Williams is a 4 star? Rivals has him at 3 stars as of right now. Outside of those high-major can't-misses, stars mean very little until senior seasons. Well he is a 4 star on the Norcal list. He is also rated higher than several 4 star players on the same list. I can only assume Rivals just havent updated his profile page? Otherwise there would be a conflict internally with Rivals which would be odd. Betting he will soon officially be upgraded. Sorry this was responding to a previous question about his rating. Sent from my DROID BIONIC using proboards
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Post by untitled on Oct 17, 2012 10:46:51 GMT -8
We've become one of those teams where people get bumped up in ratings due to joining!
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Post by heyimallenk on Oct 17, 2012 11:33:34 GMT -8
Outside of those high-major can't-misses, stars mean very little until senior seasons. Well he is a 4 star on the Norcal list. He is also rated higher than several 4 star players on the same list. I can only assume Rivals just havent updated his profile page? Otherwise there would be a conflict internally with Rivals which would be odd. Betting he will soon officially be upgraded. Sorry this was responding to a previous question about his rating. Sent from my DROID BIONIC using proboards Affiliates aren't completely aligned with the national Rivals ratings, so that could explain it.
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Post by heyimallenk on Oct 17, 2012 11:35:13 GMT -8
We've become one of those teams where people get bumped up in ratings due to joining! But we're no Duke! Or UNLV....
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Post by AztecMyke on Oct 17, 2012 11:47:00 GMT -8
From here on out, "They" will all be jealous and be saying that they are "no San Diego State" especially after this season. Bring on the Dukies, etc. We are ready baby!!!! We will beat UCLA or the Orange or both and dominate the conference along with UNLV.
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