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Post by rockshow on Oct 2, 2012 12:59:01 GMT -8
Coaches being accountable seems to be the current thing. I wonder what he is doing wrong? He mentioned in the UT that the defensive schemes were too complicated for the personnel. And we know special teams have been a disaster. Sort of disheartening to hear he is doing a lousy job of coaching after all these years in the business. I feel like his defensive gameplan has been too predictable with not enough in-game variations. I'm only watching the game on TV one time and don't have the benefit of watching game film and I know we have a lot of young players, but I thought against Fresno St., our gameplan was obvious from the start and we never really adjusted. Sure we got a bunch of turnovers at the start but we also gave up a bunch of huge plays. We basically tried to mask a blitz, and then Carr would do a hard count, and we would show blitz from a linebacker or someone in the secondary, and then Fresno would adjust to who is picking up the blitz, and then we wouldn't change anything, because our defense doesn't have the freedom to do that, and no one on the sideline can apparently communicate mid-play which is reasonable I suppose. So then we send 5 or 6 and are left exposed in the secondary. But we basically tried to bring people off the edge and rely on man-to man. But we didn't run any stunts really or show someone blitz and have a delayed blitz with someone else.. it was just kinda predictable after Carr's obvious hard count every play. We obviously miss players like Burris and Long and others. I know complex schemes are tough to instill with young players, but we have to get more creative. If we can't generate pressure with 4 lineman (we can't) why keep throwing the same thing at them every time. We had the whole offseason for players to learn zone blitzing schemes, stunting and play-change variations. If all we know how to do is rush 4, or send 5 or 6 and then we make it obvious when we do and we just hope we can play man to man, they we are screwed the rest of the season. If our players can't learn a defensive playbook that has more than 6 plays, maybe they aren't cut out for it, which is not a good sign for the future. I wonder how the defense would be doing if teaching them the 3-3-5, preparing them for the opponent, and calling the plays were his only job. It sounds as if there's not enough time to do all of that in addition to media relations, recruiting, marketing, babysitting kickers, etc. That's a good point
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 13:00:04 GMT -8
Just curious but who's been the impact DL recruits the last couple of years? Those from a couple years ago are playing, Meredith and Sanchez. Those from 2010 are Onuoha and Beed. It's been announced Beed has had some minor injuries and he had a family problem mid season a year ago and those have slowed him down. Still, it looks to me like he must be in the coaches' dog house for some reason. Here's maybe the single biggest problem. The 2009 class, which was Hoke's first, didn't have a single D-lineman. If we had even one, he would be either a senior or redshirt junior now and bulked up. Here's hope for the future. Local kids Malcolm Jackson and Teddy Queen both received offers from AQ schools before signing with us in 2012. Dan Kottman from that class has shown a lot in practice but he may be too short to play the line so could be moved to LB. The 2013 class includes two "sleepers" - and let's hope they are - in Dakota Turner and Randy Ricks. Ricks isn't all that highly rated but it's thought it's because he has a build like Applewhite or KGB and supposedly can run like them. If that's true, at 6-5 he could be a dominant player in a few years. Turner just looks like a defensive guy should. Very highly motivated.
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Post by spgonzo on Oct 2, 2012 13:23:13 GMT -8
Just curious but who's been the impact DL recruits the last couple of years? Those from a couple years ago are playing, Meredith and Sanchez. Those from 2010 are Onuoha and Beed. It's been announced Beed has had some minor injuries and he had a family problem mid season a year ago and those have slowed him down. Still, it looks to me like he must be in the coaches' dog house for some reason. Here's maybe the single biggest problem. The 2009 class, which was Hoke's first, didn't have a single D-lineman. If we had even one, he would be either a senior or redshirt junior now and bulked up. Here's hope for the future. Local kids Malcolm Jackson and Teddy Queen both received offers from AQ schools before signing with us in 2012. Dan Kottman from that class has shown a lot in practice but he may be too short to play the line so could be moved to LB. The 2013 class includes two "sleepers" - and let's hope they are - in Dakota Turner and Randy Ricks. Ricks isn't all that highly rated but it's thought it's because he has a build like Applewhite or KGB and supposedly can run like them. If that's true, at 6-5 he could be a dominant player in a few years. Turner just looks like a defensive guy should. Very highly motivated. We need impact players, no more sleepers. Recruiting sleepers is the problem. It's ok to have 2 or 3 per class, but it seems like that's all we get.
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Post by matteosandiego on Oct 2, 2012 13:24:15 GMT -8
Today at 12:47am, nielsbohr wrote: I wonder how the defense would be doing if teaching them the 3-3-5, preparing them for the opponent, and calling the plays were his only job. It sounds as if there's not enough time to do all of that in addition to media relations, recruiting, marketing, babysitting kickers, etc.
This is a great point. Rocky is not getting fired any time soon, so he must definitely hire a DC for next season. There is too much that needs to be done as a whole for him not to give the proper attention to it all. And lets face it, he's never exactly built a program before. That is what is required here at SDSU.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 2, 2012 13:26:40 GMT -8
Those from a couple years ago are playing, Meredith and Sanchez. Those from 2010 are Onuoha and Beed. It's been announced Beed has had some minor injuries and he had a family problem mid season a year ago and those have slowed him down. Still, it looks to me like he must be in the coaches' dog house for some reason. Here's maybe the single biggest problem. The 2009 class, which was Hoke's first, didn't have a single D-lineman. If we had even one, he would be either a senior or redshirt junior now and bulked up. Here's hope for the future. Local kids Malcolm Jackson and Teddy Queen both received offers from AQ schools before signing with us in 2012. Dan Kottman from that class has shown a lot in practice but he may be too short to play the line so could be moved to LB. The 2013 class includes two "sleepers" - and let's hope they are - in Dakota Turner and Randy Ricks. Ricks isn't all that highly rated but it's thought it's because he has a build like Applewhite or KGB and supposedly can run like them. If that's true, at 6-5 he could be a dominant player in a few years. Turner just looks like a defensive guy should. Very highly motivated. We need impact players, no more sleepers. Recruiting sleepers is the problem. It's ok to have 2 or 3 per class, but it seems like that's all we get. Impact DL are probably the rarest of high school recruits. They are few and far between and get eaten up by the big schools very quickly. criticizing our staff for not hauling in these types frequently is not a legitimate criticism given our standing in the FBS world.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 13:29:58 GMT -8
Dakota Turner and Randy Ricks aren't going to do anything to help the NT position. They will play on the outside. By the way who is the NT recruit we have signed for this incoming class? There isn't one, and yet we are apparently going after two more LB's. Just doesn’t add up. I believe it to be a misguided coaching philosophy in regards to the size and speed required to play at a competitive DI level.
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 2, 2012 13:54:43 GMT -8
Rocky should go to Japan to see if he can get some sumo school drop out to come here. We have a guy from the other side of the planet. He'd be great a leverage and wouldn't be bowled over. However, I seriously doubt he would be much of a pass rusher.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 14:01:08 GMT -8
if he would change his staff and we had the dough to pay them it would be ahuge plus. He made a terrible mistake in overestimating his talent level at linebacker and db. He needs a veteran Oline coach.
I also do not know about the stength coach, seriously that they work out hard does not mean they are working out right.How strong are these guys? When someone said that Pinkins was one of the strongest men on the team. I kept thinking wow what about the oline and dline?
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Post by aztecx on Oct 2, 2012 14:09:14 GMT -8
Dakota Turner and Randy Ricks aren't going to do anything to help the NT position. They will play on the outside. By the way who is the NT recruit we have signed for this incoming class? There isn't one, and yet we are apparently going after two more LB's. Just doesn’t add up. I believe it to be a misguided coaching philosophy in regards to the size and speed required to play at a competitive DI level. Our current NT are a true So, true Fr, RsFr. Is it any wonder they are struggling. They will be better next year and even better the year after. The DL is not rockys fault.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 14:21:20 GMT -8
Did you see/hear him say it? Just interested in the tone and context of that quote. No but if it's good enough for writers to tweet it's good enough for me to post.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 14:21:33 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 14:26:17 GMT -8
Did you see/hear him say it? Just interested in the tone and context of that quote. No but if it's good enough for writers to tweet it's good enough for me to post. I wasn't questioning you posting it, just curious as to how he said it. Whether it was said in a serious or joking tone would indicate a lot.
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Post by badfish on Oct 2, 2012 14:27:01 GMT -8
Hang in there, Rocky.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2012 14:31:08 GMT -8
You are correct, Mr. Long, you are doing a horrible job...at coaching...at recruiting...at communicating...and at hiring staff. Next question.
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 14:32:39 GMT -8
a defensive tackle doesn't want to come in and play noseguard and often with neither guard covered - that's not fun, nosemen like to do that type of $#!+ work but they usually aren't 6'3 often playing tight end or rushing the passer in HS, they are usually wide bodies that like sitting in a chair and taking on double teams. viz. when you have a defense with a noseguard, go get a noseguard. Where have you gone, Jonathon Bailes, aztec nation turns it's lonely eyes to you. What's that you said, Rocky Long, you wouldn't take a guy Bailes' size anyway hey hey hey
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 14:39:45 GMT -8
Monty, I get what you're saying but Rivals and Scout don't differentiate. I would assume, however, that most of the kids we've been after are playing in a 3-4 defense, wouldn't you?
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 14:55:00 GMT -8
no, because everyone we get has a smaller frame and is on the thinner side - we're recruiting ends and weak side tackles and expecting them to magically take on double teams at noseguard.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 2, 2012 14:56:39 GMT -8
You are correct, Mr. Long, you are doing a horrible job...at coaching...at recruiting...at communicating...and at hiring staff. Next question. lol your act is tired and sad my friend. but thats ok go ahead and advocate a destructive path for sdsu by firing a coach who is 2-3 coming off a winning season. honestly i get it, your a petty and negative person and you'd like to see a petty and negative AD which fires its coaches after 1.3 years to prevent them from doing more harm to our over .500 record under his leadership. yeh dude, lets send that positive message to potential coaching candidates. i'm sure we'll bring in a real winner and gamechanger with that kind of reputation. i mean who wouldn't want to come to a big time program with a long time winning tradition like sdsu's where you'll get maaaaaaayyyyyyybbbeeee 2 years to start building a program. especially now once Rocky is gone you won't have to be under the shadow of Hoke and all those monstrous wins he put up on cupcake schedules.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 2, 2012 14:58:50 GMT -8
and don't give me the "rocky has been here for 4 years herp derp" because other coaching candidates aren't gonna look at it that way. only fans do.
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 15:04:37 GMT -8
This is rich, so we won't be able to attract a decent coach, because they are fearful that if they beat absolutely no one and only beat 3 win or less teams they might be terminated? Why would we want a loser like that? We have one of those employed right now.
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