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Post by monty on Oct 1, 2012 8:56:21 GMT -8
I haven't seen an argument for him getting it done here other than: you're not a football coach or player; and, he's coming back next year regardless.
Please, provide an argument. I will now exclude myself from posting in this thread
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Post by nctyaztec on Oct 1, 2012 9:08:51 GMT -8
I cannot think of one reason.
Anyway, I'm not qualified to have an opinion because I'm not a former or current play or coach. These guys that come in here with this high and mighty attitudes are full of cow poop. Should I break out the shovel to help move all of this crap?
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Post by MarshallU on Oct 1, 2012 9:10:05 GMT -8
I cannot think of one reason. Anyway, I'm not qualified to have an opinion because I'm not a former or current play or coach. These guys that come in here with this high and mighty attitudes are full of cow poop. Should I break out the shovel to help move all of this crap? +1 LOL!!!
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Oct 1, 2012 9:19:30 GMT -8
He's coming back next year unless there is a good portion of private money collected to buy him out and pay the difference for a new coach.
I think that's the reality.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 1, 2012 9:24:07 GMT -8
Once again, people are posting out of frustration and not being realistic. You really want to dump a coach coming off a winning season (Yes, I realize the schedule was soft, but you play who you play) while we're heading into a new conference? So let me get this straight - New QB next year to break in as it is and a new coach? If we don't get screwed by "stemming" last year, we'd be coming off a bowl win and could still win a bowl game this year. So we're going to replace a coach off back-to-back bowl appearances? Lunacy.
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Post by sdsu4lifealmost on Oct 1, 2012 9:57:48 GMT -8
Because the season is not over!! So shut your trap and stop preaching to the choir. Trust me he's got at least 2 more years if he looses out this whole season and most of next season. He's not getting fired after this season that's for sure, so your rants fall on deaf ears. Rocky is trying to rebuild the team after losing an OL coach, and some recruits. Not to mention that his whole D-Line is a bit inexperienced. So why don't you and your Monti homie friend go climb a tree and go back to being monkeys, because the back of your negative posts have now become ridiculous!
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Post by insider on Oct 1, 2012 10:04:21 GMT -8
Once again, people are posting out of frustration and not being realistic. You really want to dump a coach coming off a winning season (Yes, I realize the schedule was soft, but you play who you play) while we're heading into a new conference? So let me get this straight - New QB next year to break in as it is and a new coach? If we don't get screwed by "stemming" last year, we'd be coming off a bowl win and could still win a bowl game this year. So we're going to replace a coach off back-to-back bowl appearances? Lunacy. Considering the program is only getting worse under his hands, absolutley. This team shouldn't be going to mediocre bowls with the schedule it plays. 9 wins should be a minimum. You are the one that is not being realistic and is posting with the tilted red and black shades on, pretending things are good. This is not a good team, it is below average, just because we go to a bowl (where we will probably lose money) when you play 7 teams outside the top 80 of sagarins rating. The average rating of the team we play? 92.4. So on average this team is barely playing a top 100 team. There are 90 schools that can go to a bowl game with this schedule.
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Post by seasonticketholder on Oct 1, 2012 10:07:35 GMT -8
Here's a case for this discussion to at least be put on hold.
I predicted no worse than 7-5 and going to a bowl game at the beginning of the season. So far we're one game (San Jose) off the pace of where I thought we would be. The final game at Wyoming was my guess as to a make/break season between 7-5 or 8-4.
While I am not and was never thrilled with the hire, I completely understood why he was tabbed as the guy to follow Brady. Now that he is in the position, it is hard for me to get on board with replacing Rocky if he meets what I thought this team would accomplish at the start of the season.
Do I think the team has looked worse than expected? Yes. Do I think that expectations should rise and he should be held to a higer standard over time? Yes.
For everyone that wants to fire Rocky, let's hear what your expectations were for the season. If you want to be the first to fire him for losing games, I wouldn't expect you to have a problem putting your predictions out before the games are played.
If Rocky meets/exceeds your expecations for the season, then good on him. If he falls short, then let's start the "Fire Rocky" threads at that time.
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Post by insider on Oct 1, 2012 10:12:44 GMT -8
Here's a case for this discussion to at least be put on hold. I predicted no worse than 7-5 and going to a bowl game at the beginning of the season. So far we're one game (San Jose) off the pace of where I thought we would be. The final game at Wyoming was my guess as to a make/break season between 7-5 or 8-4. While I am not and was never thrilled with the hire, I completely understood why he was tabbed as the guy to follow Brady. Now that he is in the position, it is hard for me to get on board with replacing Rocky if he meets what I thought this team would accomplish at the start of the season. Do I think the team has looked worse than expected? Yes. Do I think that expectations should rise and he should be held to a higer standard over time? Yes. For everyone that wants to fire Rocky, let's hear what your expectations were for the season. If you want to be the first to fire him for losing games, I wouldn't expect you to have a problem putting your predictions out before the games are played. If Rocky meets/exceeds your expecations for the season, then good on him. If he falls short, then let's start the "Fire Rocky" threads at that time. No, my expectations were 7-8 wins but this was considering who the football coach is. With this schedule SDSU should win 9 games minimum.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 1, 2012 10:13:33 GMT -8
Hit the pause button, step back take a deep breath and wait 'til the season is over and if the results don't please you then scream all you want in caps!
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 1, 2012 10:24:04 GMT -8
A couple of losses and the rats are jumping ship. At least wait till the end of the season before deserting these men who represent SDSU.
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Post by uncledougy on Oct 1, 2012 10:37:24 GMT -8
A couple of losses and the rats are jumping ship. At least wait till the end of the season before deserting these men who represent SDSU. I think the true supporters would call for change when the writing is on the wall. And the writing is on the wall....the program is regressing and needs a change. Those that want to wait and give him more time to see what he can do haven't had their eyes open wide enough yet. Eventually everyone would welcome a coaching change, it is just too bad we will have to hit rock bottom again before anything is done.
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Post by halfnip on Oct 1, 2012 10:42:43 GMT -8
It's simple. If we're improving, we're moving in the right direction. You cannot say that we've been improving game to game or from last season to this season. Although some may be going a bit overboard, I do not see how you can argue there should be concern and SOMETHING needs to change. Does this mean he needs to be fired? It could simply mean that they do something different in preparation, during the game, I don't know. But something needs to be done because whatever we've been doing obviously isn't working.
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Post by ohioaztec1 on Oct 1, 2012 11:27:25 GMT -8
We will have thesame problem next year. We do not have the talent to compete and thie years recruiting class will be lower rated than last year's class.
This is Long's fourth year. He has had enough time to recruit the players to have a good defense.
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Post by OCEOTL on Oct 1, 2012 11:44:03 GMT -8
Because the season is not over!! So shut your trap and stop preaching to the choir. Wow, I think I will join another Aztec blogging site since this one looks to be utterly infected with negative people that can't even support our Aztecs when it matters. Pathetic! I truly believe we will find a way to win against Fresno that's what good coaches do and that's what Rocky will do. Better record it because its going to drastically make everyone that despises the team right now hold their heads down in shame. AMF!
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 1, 2012 11:56:07 GMT -8
Because the season is not over!! So shut your trap and stop preaching to the choir. Trust me he's got at least 2 more years if he looses out this whole season and most of next season. He's not getting fired after this season that's for sure, so your rants fall on deaf ears. Rocky is trying to rebuild the team after losing an OL coach, and some recruits. Not to mention that his whole D-Line is a bit inexperienced. So why don't you and your Monti homie friend go climb a tree and go back to being monkeys, because the back of your negative posts have now become ridiculous! To be clear, my handle is not in reference to this Monty. It's in reference to Monty montezuma. Also Monty and I do not agree on this issue at all and I'm not sure which of my posts would give that impression...
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 1, 2012 12:00:35 GMT -8
At least wait for the end of the year before you write on any walls. I am not in favor of starting over with a new coach at this point, there has not been any continuity to speak of the past few decades. Are we going to have to wait another 2 years for a different coach with a new scheme to get it together? That is a recipe for doormat programs.
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Post by insider on Oct 1, 2012 13:07:30 GMT -8
A couple of losses and the rats are jumping ship. At least wait till the end of the season before deserting these men who represent SDSU. I think the true supporters would call for change when the writing is on the wall. And the writing is on the wall....the program is regressing and needs a change. Those that want to wait and give him more time to see what he can do haven't had their eyes open wide enough yet. Eventually everyone would welcome a coaching change, it is just too bad we will have to hit rock bottom again before anything is done. This.
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Post by insider on Oct 1, 2012 13:08:45 GMT -8
At least wait for the end of the year before you write on any walls. I am not in favor of starting over with a new coach at this point, there has not been any continuity to speak of the past few decades. Are we going to have to wait another 2 years for a different coach with a new scheme to get it together? That is a recipe for doormat programs. No, a recipe for doormat program is letting a coach tear everything down to rock bottom before the coach is let go.
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 1, 2012 13:14:16 GMT -8
It's simple. If we're improving, we're moving in the right direction. You cannot say that we've been improving game to game or from last season to this season. Although some may be going a bit overboard, I do not see how you can argue there should be concern and SOMETHING needs to change. Does this mean he needs to be fired? It could simply mean that they do something different in preparation, during the game, I don't know. But something needs to be done because whatever we've been doing obviously isn't working. Good thing we showed more patience with Steve Fisher He would've been fired multiple times by now with this logic. There have been seasons, we regressed in hoops, even after NCAA appearances. I remember reading all the negative nellies saying he'd never build anything here.
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