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Post by beatnavy on Sept 3, 2012 15:29:22 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 15:47:46 GMT -8
SDSU 31
Army 27
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 15:49:53 GMT -8
Looks like you Army boys return some talent on D:
The Army defense returns 14 of its top 18 tacklers from last season. All but one of the eight players who recorded an interception last season are back in 2012, and a group that combined for 13.0 of Army's 18.0 quarterback sacks last season returns to the lineup.
Anyone know how attendance is looking for Saturday? I expect a pretty good crowd.
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Post by k5james on Sept 3, 2012 16:13:31 GMT -8
Looks like you Army boys return some talent on D:
The Army defense returns 14 of its top 18 tacklers from last season. All but one of the eight players who recorded an interception last season are back in 2012, and a group that combined for 13.0 of Army's 18.0 quarterback sacks last season returns to the lineup.Anyone know how attendance is looking for Saturday? I expect a pretty good crowd. Probably not good given our pansie ass fan base. I bet we'll have a pretty good student turnout though. Hopefully they'll get a good show and come back for more. |
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Post by mojo on Sept 3, 2012 16:45:35 GMT -8
Looks like you Army boys return some talent on D:
The Army defense returns 14 of its top 18 tacklers from last season. All but one of the eight players who recorded an interception last season are back in 2012, and a group that combined for 13.0 of Army's 18.0 quarterback sacks last season returns to the lineup.Anyone know how attendance is looking for Saturday? I expect a pretty good crowd. They're returning a lot of veteran players on both sides of the ball. I hope this being our 2nd game and their 1st means advantage Aztecs! |
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Sept 4, 2012 13:04:40 GMT -8
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Sept 4, 2012 13:15:27 GMT -8
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 4, 2012 13:21:36 GMT -8
Looks like you Army boys return some talent on D:
The Army defense returns 14 of its top 18 tacklers from last season. All but one of the eight players who recorded an interception last season are back in 2012, and a group that combined for 13.0 of Army's 18.0 quarterback sacks last season returns to the lineup.Anyone know how attendance is looking for Saturday? I expect a pretty good crowd. I bet we'll have a pretty good student turnout though. Hopefully they'll get a good show and come back for more. Well said. AMEN! |
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 4, 2012 13:22:41 GMT -8
Aztecs 35
Army 21
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Post by bill456 on Sept 4, 2012 13:47:47 GMT -8
Last year, out of the 3-9 record, 8 of 9 of their losses was on the road. And we're talking about scores like 49-26 to NIll, 48-21 to Ball St, 44 to 21 to Vandy, 42-14 to Temple. At home, they won by scores of 21-14 over Northwestern, 45 -6 over Tulane, and 55 - 0 over Fordham, with their only home lost to SDSU. Their a far better home team than on the road. With how they played last year, I don't see a let down against this team. Personally I'll go with the +6.5.
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Post by rickdoerr on Sept 4, 2012 13:57:44 GMT -8
Geez, I hope we're able to run on a d line that averages 229lbs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 14:26:49 GMT -8
I'll predict ~32K in the house.
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Post by fowl on Sept 4, 2012 14:35:43 GMT -8
We ran the ball against them pretty well last year but that double eagle flex defense is always tough to run against because it has 8, sometimes 9, in the box and the alignments of the defenders are funky and make it difficult to block regardless of size.
If I'm Ludwig I motion out Escobar and run 10 personel to create mismatches in the passing game and take defenders out of the box. Then, if numbers dictate it, run Kazee between the tackles or throw it if we get one on one match-ups. Considering that their 5'11" starting Rover would likely come out to cover Escobar, Gavin should have a field day.
Also, use misdirection as that defense is predicated on the non-playside LB and flexed out defender pursuing with the flow. Weakside powers should work well, too.
That defense was designed to stop the run - even though many will argue its roots in the CFL dispell that notion. But when you have eight or nine in the box versus standard 21 personel pro style offense and the base set calls for man coverage it is designed to stop the run. Ellerson ran it well when he directed desert swarm but that was 20 years ago when teams still ran it 55-60% of the time.
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Post by badfish on Sept 4, 2012 14:46:14 GMT -8
Let's see what our offense can do this week. We didn't get to see any of the passing game or our receiving weapons really.
btw, I did not know this until reading the link: "San Diego State made 10 tackles behind the line of scrimmage, including three quarterback sacks."
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Post by badfish on Sept 4, 2012 14:52:22 GMT -8
I'll predict ~32K in the house. I got a group of new Aztec fans who haven't been to a game in years going, hope we have a great game. |
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Post by mojo on Sept 4, 2012 16:14:22 GMT -8
We ran the ball against them pretty well last year but that double eagle flex defense is always tough to run against because it has 8, sometimes 9, in the box and the alignments of the defenders are funky and make it difficult to block regardless of size. If I'm Ludwig I motion out Escobar and run 10 personel to create mismatches in the passing game and take defenders out of the box. Then, if numbers dictate it, run Kazee between the tackles or throw it if we get one on one match-ups. Considering that their 5'11" starting Rover would likely come out to cover Escobar, Gavin should have a field day. Also, use misdirection as that defense is predicated on the non-playside LB and flexed out defender pursuing with the flow. Weakside powers should work well, too. That defense was designed to stop the run - even though many will argue its roots in the CFL dispell that notion. But when you have eight or nine in the box versus standard 21 personel pro style offense and the base set calls for man coverage it is designed to stop the run. Ellerson ran it well when he directed desert swarm but that was 20 years ago when teams still ran it 55-60% of the time. Do you tutor in football? |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 4, 2012 16:29:52 GMT -8
Rich Ellerson was the coach of Cal Poly that beat us twice at the "Q". Nuff said.
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Post by bill456 on Sept 4, 2012 17:04:17 GMT -8
Rich Ellerson was the coach of Cal Poly that beat us twice at the "Q". Nuff said. Any team can be beaten if they fail to show up, which those Aztec teams did under a different coach. I'll give THIS team more credit. Again not saying it's going to be a blow out. |
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 4, 2012 17:21:49 GMT -8
Rich Ellerson was the coach of Cal Poly that beat us twice at the "Q". Nuff said. Chuck Long was the HC. Nuff said. |
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Post by ellbee on Sept 4, 2012 18:20:54 GMT -8
Army's record when opening on the road is less than impressive, but I expect to see 4-year starter Steelman give us a bit of trouble if we don't execute on defense (see last year). Regardless, I can't see the mighty Black Knights of the Hudson pulling this one out.
This game evens the Ellerson / Long series record at two games apiece...
On the upside, Navy looked like something dead and rotting in a peat bog in their game whatever you'd call that performance in Ireland last weekend. So this game will be a minor footnote to Army's campaign to recover the Commander-in-Chief's trophy and return it to its rightful home in Ike Hall.
Beat Navy, Dammit.
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